Softlaunch Sonar #5: More Whiteout survival-like games coming!

guess what this game is this is just like a top heroes top heroes plus Forex or something let's see um our heroes got attacked by zombies and wait a second by Cheap cpis you mean and then yeah cheap CPI then some kind of creative [ __ ] as usual run away save them blah blah blah it's too late this is just like gu out survival but we missed this is [Music] hour this is a no [ __ ] gaming show where we talk about games and their revenue in great detail powered by our ad monetization game design and user acquisition Triple Threat expertise welcome to the two and a half Gamers the unfiltered truth served with a side of giggles

let's not forget this is a 400 a.m. conference discussion Vibe so let's not take it too seriously tune in now and stay two and a half steps ahead of the gaming industry happen to welcome everyone H this is summer edition of Two and a Half Gamers we are doing uh bring your own [ __ ] again uh but maybe only Remo will bring his own [ __ ] together ah what an intro man what an intro I know I know I know I know I know I know H it's it's too too early I guess it's too early to to start recording anyway welcome my name is mat Lich I'm Felix braberg and we are your hosts and we are going to talk about games no [ __ ] about games in soft lunch so Remo is going to talk about the the soft laou

sonar again which we are very much looking forward to and then we'll see maybe we'll going to talk about something else as well maybe not it's going to be mystery so yeah definitely stay until the end until the end of the podcast why why are you laughing it's it is it is what it is it is yeah it is what it is exactly yeah so a lot of time has passed always between the rounds of the sonar as we did the we did the radar already last Edition but this is soft lunch son our fifth edition you know it's too early for yakob as well you can see that I I wake up like 10 minutes ago what so dear listeners this is 11:00 a.m. C just for until 3. in New York very normal you know yeah Jesus anyway let's start with the thing so yes uh first title to cover dark and darker mobile ooh so this thing is actually

going into beta not uh it's not soft lunch but it's going to be let's say early tested uh not going to get into yeah it seems like uh it's in US Japan turkey T turkey and South Korea Korea yeah so I don't know if I be we we'll hopefully try to get some access to the beta I'm not sure if we know anyone uh in that company get us into the Beta yeah we'll see we'll see but it's running from 1 August till 11 August so really yeah but it was like yeah okay we could get into our register until today I think which is yeah we still have time also tomorrow and like the regist is until um and U the register is until end of July yes so yeah we'll see but just saying like this is very very uh kind of hypee up

game and they are uh the thing that yeah we saw the game was put down from Steam because it's still in like a lawsuit with Nexon this is a mobile version that's actually published by Crafton so it's not the PC version the PC version you can go and play already it's it can be buy it from their website and uh yeah we're really looking forward like how this one goes so what is this yeah what is this game about I mean I'm not looking forward to I haven't seen a single ad yet like what is this of course come on man like we were in in in Busan in Korea last year and we saw it in the ngar it was [ __ ] ton of of people there yob disappeared because didn't disappear just like technical issues anyway um yeah so let's continue I guess but what is this like tell us and the listeners like why should be uh

look forward to this yeah and why should we care because yeah because this game is very unique in a way that it's a PV slvp because it's both PVP and PVE together and it's also an extraction exactly yeah and in the wake of all of these extraction shooters that are trying to get on the marketplace as we speak this seems like one of the let's say proven ones as on PC it works very well so it's not going to work on mobile we'll see we seen it last year when we were in G star in South Korea like like giant boots that they have there and there's very big expectation from this game let's say so let's see yeah looking for it be able to play mostly mostly work in Asia not in the west but yeah let's see maybe or maybe I'm I'm G I mean same country that brought us uh pizza ready so why not yeah yeah yeah

maybe but this is like the the I guess one of the most H profiles yeah let's move on uh from this point on it will be a little bit more faster because I didn't sometimes I wasn't even able to find the footage there's this game called dot dot blast uh that's uh o connect the dots uh puzzle it's I think in the old days this was called line puzzle so this is a line puzzle game and guess on which company portfolio it is tail fun who the [ __ ] is tail fun I'm assuming it's not tail fun right yeah no no no it's uh I don't know what's happening with like that uhor Tower thing but uh yeah iing the artwork from where yeah that's what I'm trying to like it's uh that man is familiar like that style

[Music] is it dream no no no no it's only like a it's actually Century gam yeah yeah that was my next uh next guess yeah yeah so the trend of Forex companies coming for your casual puzzles continues yeah so so that's there as I said I wasn't able to found the footage because this is super new this is sof launch 28th of June last last month okay yeah yeah we'll see the other game that's also very interesting that I found is coin pusher Adventures coin pusher yeah it's actually you remember oh I know oh wow you remember those machines that you co coindozer called Co yes this is called coindozer it's a it was a big game in uh in the west as well okay so yeah it's seems It's like a Social Casino the typical one where you know our favorite

like coin Master Monopoly Goa but uh regarding the core there's not slot machine there's not the wheel there's not whatever there's this kind of coin pusher thing which try try to look for coin doer in in s tower coozer yes let me let me just point out here because it looks like it's pirate theme right and as the second best UA manager on this podcast pirate theme is very expensive no Coin Dozer with Z Coin Dozer 3D coin dozer with Z instead of s did you see thousands of them yeah okay go uh guess the company this is doing this game is actually so Lun from July 18th the coin busher Adventures yeah let's see there was it's absolutely coming from China yeah it's against Century games yeah I saw you ask Century games like what kind of games you do then just like yes yes all of

all yes yeah we'll see no but n you know like Nicholas showed us also the the new merge game that they have uh they in during the dinner so yeah they have exactly Felix casual stuff coming all of them all of them all of them yeah let's see yes okay uh this one is I would say a classic uh so there's the game called roomscapes coming uh it's soft lunch from April 23rd and you already guessed it what it is yeah yeah of course my main man play R exactly so it's the the one in the I guess the main series because they also had the family Scapes we covered last time still in soft lunch but this is just like a I guess different iteration of it what's the difference then because family Scapes didn't have the garden Scapes main IP let's say Butler yeah

yeah but I mean like why why would you do R escapes when you have homecapes and gardenscapes like this is just like what like room nothing else and like home is what home is not it's not rooms as well I think they changed the meta in a way that it's kind of more closer to Peak where they don't have this like big uh you know overview of the Mansion or whatever that you're refurbishing it's mostly like one room similarly like like U Royal match also goes like just one room and then it moves to to another if you see here you renovate this and then I don't know if it's goes into another room in the video but it's basically just one room so see yeah here it is location complete complete and then it moves to a next one so I guess they're testing a new meta basically which is not that new but it's still like kind of a different yeah it's different and pretty novel if we cons consider the differences between mat three or let's say puzzle puzzle games

so let's say but it's interesting so and uh for those listeners who are wondering what the play Butler is called it's Austin yeah yeah Austin Austin is his name good good good point Felix okay uh next one this is a little bit more interesting one so there this game called octopus I showed you this yeah show me this but but this popup on my list anyways was carrying no this is actually rolic yeah oh a and it's it's uh soft lunch from May 1st and uh yeah as the listeners know it's a follow up on Alien Invasion do you see that you see that rewarded ad placement right there yeah so this looks very very interesting I don't know like if this would have like if this is a better tee for it or not but I would say yes why not I mean animals great CPI underwat or sea or what it's that could be okay um as long

as you don't have Pirates right Pirates could also fit here but like let's see I mean how how can a pirate fit into octopus tell me I don't know uh maybe octopus kills the pirate anyway uh yeah I was kind of really really kind of positively surprised that because I'm I'm missing more Invasion iteration like the core loop I I don't think so it's kind of iterated that well there's the Invasion I I showed you I actually found a farm game that is also similar to this one thing about this game type is it's absolutely slays Impressions per da unrewarded like it's some of the highest like imp that we've ever seen right so it's uh pretty much we are warriors in this that has the highest int alen Invasion did so yeah just just in this video I found another kind of a let's say iteration for Fara but this is not part the onear this is just like is that

Rick pickles pickled Rick I don't know like this does make any sense yeah I don't know I just random games that you found on the internet so great I don't know uh anyway wow moving moving forward moving forward um there's the drop sword wow this is interesting this is from Voodoo soft lunch April 29th Voodoo is doing like like a spray and prey kind of approach a lot of different games this is a copy of watermelon dropper um that's been hitting the charts and peing like this in the last 30 days it's gotten like uh 2.9 Million downloads in the last 30 days and this is straight up their game but instead of instead of water instead of fruits it's octopuses oh it's called watermelon what watermelon drop watermelon

drop I think I missed that wor I'll carry this podcast from now so this one yeah yeah no it's watermelon Merch this see different watermelon drop merge yeah watermelon drop not merge watermelon drop fruit merge I I don't know like what I feel like he's talking about to be honest yeah well I also don't know yeah don't worry it's the first time he actually SPO something but only I guess because this one okay I'm going to show you this one yeah exactly that one okay this is by who uh get smart get smart Okay was interesting yeah so we do have another kind of a sorting Puzzler because again this I guess it'sit a little bit closer to blockchain but of course it's like completely different same but different yeah it's sorting genre basically on puzzles so I guess that's very very very popular but

yeah seems pretty interesting good that you pointed out Felix now it makes complete sense it's nice iteration yep let's move forward uh there's Subway Surfers City why I don't know this is soft lunch July 4th and uh yeah it's uh Subway Surfers which I think yeah in the city we just use heavier meta or something like that like if you seen this screen let's finish the level actually and uh yeah there seems to be some kind of a I I think there's like a clash Royale style gotcha or something like that to see here sty Co yeah there's seems to be much more metag game features here yeah there's like chest yeah this scream CL got me yeah so they have Shard tokens

there so yeah I don't know what's happening wait wait wait wait wait let me also add here I think I know what they're doing because they had a job roll open eight months ago for a cross promotional like head of Cross promo and that got taken off after like three four months so maybe they're trying to yeah move some of that massive deu to other games uh by doing Cross promo and similar type of games and spread it out I don't know H like U I don't really have a good feeling about this regarding the like just Runners are not really a thing that monetizes well let's just say that yeah but Runners are the thing that has like [ __ ] ton of Organics and it's like not only Subway Surfers but all of them for I'm just saying like imagine this in a world where you have Subway Surfers that gets you know how many organic downloads a day Millions hundreds of crazy amounts right then you

have a specific ad placement that only does Cross promo where you try to get players that are interested in heavier meta into this game that monetizes better you know it's a strategy it's a funnel yeah yeah sounds good on paper but uh Cross promo always sounds good on paper I've done it like four or five times never works by the way it's not Millions it's something in vicinity of like half million downloads I'm just looking at it we just said like hundreds of thousands yeah yeah but still like more than half a million yeah y moving on um what's there moving on now we're going to the section of the rabbit hole this going be very interesting yes put on a rabbit rabbit rabbit come on so there's this game called Tavern Legend ooit rabbit so guess guess the company oh Jesus Christ what is this this is fun fun plus uh this is not fun Plus thank

God but you're close uh this is called Tavern Legend and uh as you continue here and there's this kind of a whatever didn't say noing thing and we continue this bit forward uh yeah yeah yeah I can't wait to block this game in all of my clients games and and from this screen can you can you guess what what this game is from this screen Idle No from this screen wait a second there's icons that are called town and world I see I see this absolute Forex yeah it's Forex I just I was just looking down so if we move forward a little bit actually this this tutorial is very very fast I guess to my learnings it's too fast there's uh there's the gcha this is called tavn Legend so I'm going to block this in all my clients right after this according at our

favorite screen which is the you know the balloon mechanic yeah yeah so this is tap for fun oh hello Stan come on to Stan is making more sense now and it was softland June 28th St mentioned like they have like what like four games coming yeah so I guess this is one of those which means it has that casual meta on top and uh sorry casual core on top and then it's Forex underneath sorry Stan you're getting blocked only because of the on boarding I get I I see just because of this half naked women likeing some strength let's say uh yeah and now this will be the most biggest scit hole oh so there's this game called Miss survival which was actually soft launch 3 days ago July

27th and guess what this game is this is just like a top heroes top heroes plus Forex or something let's see um our heroes got attacked by zombies and wait a second by Cheap cpis you mean and then yeah cheap CPI then some kind of creative [ __ ] as usual run away save them blah blah blah it's too late this is just like white out survival but we missed this is white out [Music] [Laughter] survival yes we're still in the rabbit hole ah the Forex Rabbit Hole yeah we're in the rabbit hole so you see that there's this let's say summer version of white out survival where there's instead of a burning furnace in in the winter there's this I don't know the

summer is this is this Heaven as well no okay this is fun this I just want to say it's absolutely fun plus because of this big what was dinosaur or something oh my God so I think we we should create a new Forex genre is this Ela is this Elsa by the way no it's Fiona ela's later uh I'm not joking oh okay this is literally like we should create a new like Forex sub genre called white out survival like pretty much because this exactly it what it is and if I move out like if I move further uh yeah there's these the usual kind of things that you see within these games oh yeah there's this signature yeah there's the signature move where one of our characters unfortunately you know what's going to happen to them oh yeah they're D in the

hospital no you're kidnapped no no kidnapped I think I already skipped the screen somewhere here or by the way there's like the brave character from the movie but uh yeah here it is uh here's our unfortunately very ill yes we need to heal she's not strapped to a bomb though so she's not strapped to bomb there's some disease whatever time scale UPA she will be oh yeah yeah so it seems is the usual thing there uh I would say very high production values and stuff around that and this was the first game I found on the portfolio is great like summer version of white out survival so Forex somewhere down the line all the tactics and then I was going forward and there was doesn't end there it doesn't end there so there was this other game called Titan Lord kingdoms

and this game was actually soft lunch no no wait a second this game was actually soft lunch a month before at June 7 and if we move forward you could see that some of the things are just different because the HQ is different yeah the zombies and the people there are different instead of this kind of very summerish thing there's like this kind of FK Mist all over the place everywhere and the character and the story again are a little bit different there's this kind of a tent instead of the giant crystal yeah here and then at some point I think also El our Elsa in this Multiverse also gets sick oh yeah absolutely without without a doubt but uh yeah there there she is you see there there's the icon and and there's also like a little bit of combat footage here I think zombie yeah there she is yeah yeah see see

El yeah what's the thinking behind doing this so they have some like slightly different version of the game that they soft lunch a month before again from plus but this the same thing that they they done before now with this but then I was going further and we need to go further and there actually a third game o that was soft lunch April 24th H which again is you guessed it a same iteration of the same game basically so to me it seems that literally somebody is as they kind of I don't know as they iterate the game like each of the bills literally go to soft lunch separately like it's I don't get it not the same not the yeah it's it's kind of same yeah slightly

different and as I said this is the third game but it's like this REM the UI and everything reminds me a little bit more like a total battle rather than just white out survival um this is basically white out survival yeah I know but like it how how it changed like how it's kind of completely different to the last iteration that we saw which is the white out survival thing so why I don't know there's this kind of very I guess rigorous testing tactic that they have there on their portfolio I mean I I wanted to just say can you imagine like the the resources put behind this but we just came back from China so we know like this just took like two days to build how many people in your creative team I don't know 400 yeah know yeah maybe yeah so so there's basically one game in three different soft lung iteration sitting on their portfolio currently it's very interesting yeah which by the

way also means that the previous uh Duo that we saw yeah the tiny survivors game also got relaunched because the other two that we saw there the you know the I Hy and shank the kids versions of Forex they don't exist anymore and there's this new one called uh tiny survivors that was s on June 133 I guess this is the Victorious iteration of the previous survival team in this yeah survival team in Forex so there we go yeah this looks like the the H ant kingdom or what was it yeah yeah yeah ant kingdom or well something like that I don't remember anyway there's like massive massive for exitation currently happening on f plus soft lunch portfolio it's like definitely worth checking out for those that are wondering what's happening yep let's move on so there's this game called merch Epis a [ __ ] freezing families game this is straight

up playx ad from two years ago like this is not 100% game FL it's not freezing families it's actually families uh getting refurbished because you know where this is going yeah travel time yeah so it's a merch uh merch two or let's say GRE merch core yeah from Travel Town basically where you have the seaside thing there in the back ground even though our family got like pretty much very rundown shck here but as As you move through the levels of course you you know make it right and you finally can help them get stuff kind of doing and as you progress through the level this is even more interesting think somewhere [Music] here yeah so you completed the room I think this kind of complete the room team is like very very prevalent these days yeah so I think we're still missing the floor yeah so we completed the

floor great everything's like a Cozy home blah blah blah blah blah guess what's going to happen now she's going to be arrested no better new hurricane so you're going to choose a new location oh Jesus Christ and the thing's going to start all over again man us as humans are [ __ ] so so it seems there's this kind of a different meta D from our favorite creatives and that's there so this game is called uh merch episodes soft lunch on June 20th guess from which company magmatic is it uh microne no waste no there you go oh did we mention the game company as already I don't think so oh then is the century games no no no no no no it's not

37 games oh so it's another Forex company coming for your casual o so it means like it's a very very uh prevailing theme that uh companies that are SLG experts or Forex as they say in China are coming heavily into casual yeah let's say now they kind of dominate the Forex now want to dominate merch and and match I guess or like overall they want to dominate they want they want yeah they want yeah so we'll see yeah but it's uh yeah stuff's coming definitely because this is the thing is like if you look at microfun portfolio it's actually possible so it's possible so I guess they see the opportunity but let's move on yeah this one's interesting this is actually a video that I found on Billy Billy because because we are CH we are Chinese now yeah because we we know how to use Chinese local websites but

there's this game called Empires and magic I just thought it's interesting because uh it's just a Google Translation the there's no English name yet but uh it's a Forex game that actually has um that actually has uh Empires and puzzles core o yeah why you tell me uh but for those wondering why I'm bringing UPS I'm also bringing up because Zinga just launched uh Game of Thrones Legend RPG which is a follow up on empir and puzzles this week Global launch after launch more than one year in launch yeah yeah it's not not in this list but yeah it's it's already being kind of scaled doing something like 30k a day or I don't know let's see can maybe check it out later but yeah this was interesting as they actually put the thing in the Forex game and then uh where we are there we are and then yeah I don't know

like this this for me looks more Western than than Eastern regarding their setup what how because this this version of what you see here this is Empires and puzzles this not coming from pu and Dragons this was specifically designed to be streamlined for the west by guys from small giant so let's see if this gets anywhere into the west but I'm I guess not but yeah an interesting game that that's also sof lunch and last one is uh bytopia uh Survival game where oh Jesus Christ not this again yes so guess what this is is the same thing kids yeah show again honey I shrank the kids and honey I shrank the kids uh and we are trying to survive because tring survive as usual and uh I guess this is as usual you know what it is as a genre the Forex yep it's Forex

it's uh again on 37 games portfolio Oh I thought it's going to be in fun plus again no no no no no it's 37 games so yeah it seems the Forex companies are coping also between each other or let's say following upon each other with the teams uh this straight up looks from NS Kingdom UI understand so let's see what happens but this Buck whatever down to the grass level Forex seems very popular things yeah starts to be popular I mean l kingdom was kind of scaling I think ago yeah yeah so let's let's let's say there yep last game on the list uh I couldn't miss this one ah Bacon's Revenge I started playing on on the bull Stacks actually yeah that's great so Bacon's Revenge uh fits our te theme of doodle magic prophecy but it has a Twist

where you actually need to reorder weapons and merge them in before the game play yeah which will then determine your skills during the game playay and game playay is actually the r Glide RPG T defense of doodle magic as you see here very interesting by the way yeah for those who don't know where this is coming from this is coming from actually a steam game called backpack hero which was launched last November really said all yeah yeah it's that old so the mechanic is coming from you sorting out the inventory in the backpack hero and then being able to fight enemies here on the bottom of the screen in this more of a like sides scrolling manner yeah that's my guess like how it is absolutely from there like even even Voodoo has this side scrolling uh backpack hero which brings me again to the point that a lot of very

successful Mobile Mechanics cores or features are Tak from successful Steam games because again they are approved by the you know player engagement here like this one which is I don't know 87% very positive six more than 6,000 reviews yeah which is a small like a you know $20 game but then it's it's getting mixed here into like one of the best kind of course that we seen throughout the last time which is this kind of to defense without the road and then you just you know add a little bit more depth to it through this and suddenly you end up with uh yeah Bacon's Revenge yeah which is uh not bad we already we already saw also the the Chinese version we met with the with the developers in person last week this is going to be insane by the way yeah this is going to be insane I'm guessing we're going to be covering this as soon as he starts making 100K a day which will happen which will happen eventually and soon

sooner or L yeah rather than later it's it's using the usual kind of HBY meta as as you see here that like very very if you don't just jump like everywhere and leave the screen open wanted to leave the screen open I just wanted to UI to be there yeah okay weapon prayer yeah uh it's going to be very interesting it could be that this could be really the big uh iteration that it's going to translate the West dle magic in dle Magic core into the West because bang bang Survivor even though is Giant in China it's still very complex regarding it meta for Western a because it's using basically doodle magic meta with like 30 slots for gems in the inventory which is not really the thing you want to get the West so let's see that's super super very interesting games coming up on the you heard it here first folks yeah you heard it here and uh it's but it's do you have any any soft loue games like

coming from West because we all I think these was like six soft launch soner and more majority of the games we Chinese games are Chinese yeah I don't think majority of majority of the I'm not saying like all of them but majority of the games to be honest because I don't think like we have let's say five of them are from the West yeah I know like before we were talking about Squad Busters we were talking different games but not like mainly I think I'm coming from man the thing is I literally check like I go through like one of the tricks how to do these things is take 100 top 100 grossing charts check the companies and check their portfolio accounts and see what's released the last yeah or set up the sensor Tower alerts and then uh it's going to come to your inbox yeah but it's not easy or listen to two and a half Gamers oo get two and a half steps ahead [Music]

you can go um we can take you into the rabbit holes oh my God jeez okay so talk about something else or uh save it for next week yeah yeah I think that's uh that's all we have for for today because it was quite a lot of games quite a lot of visuals so thank you very much again for coming so we are getting some some messages about Gamescom so we have have a games comp party and uh you're not going to be there so the games comp party is happening I have I will share the link in the show notes uh we will have our own brand ambassador there John Wright from qual so he's representing yeah and some other folks obviously on the ground but then uh we're coming to Barcelona for amplify and up I think and I guess it know well Tokyo game show Tokyo game show yeah that's on the plan

now if yeah if anyone is around uh Tokyo please let us know um and we can meet or well you can meet with the aaban that's end of September 26th end of September we'll be there probably ma as well H most probably no we'll see we'll see we'll see we'll see about that okay thank you very much again please join our slack channel uh and also don't forget to subscribe uh to the YouTube and also to Spotify Apple whatever the the platform is for you and we goodbye [Music] byebye Okay C [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] he

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