So for that app specifically, we have a Tik Tok account, for example, this one. And we we post videos like uh like this one here uh which is a video of, you know, a room red design, for example. It got, you know, 38,000 uh likes and 25,000 comments and more than 700,000 views. But some of the videos like this one here was posted by open call for example fully 100%. I've I've done nothing. So it just uploaded the video. You know I explained it once my previous you know video that uh I think that one here I explained this video to open claw and I said hey actually this video got 700,000 views. Let's make similar videos. So you can see it has the same like um font. It has the same words.
Hi everyone. Welcome to another episode
of Tangent Ry 111. I'm Roman from Tangent and today I'm joined by Elder. Hi Elder.
Hey Roman. It's it's great to be here. Thanks a lot for inviting me over.
Of course. Of course. And today we'll talk about automation. Like I chatted briefly with Elder about what he does in his daytoday to automate one of the like processes and uh I've noticed immediately that he's ahead of the pack and this is how uh I got the idea to do this video. But first of all maybe dark talk about yourself. What do you do? What do you automate and what we'll talk about today?
Yeah great. Thanks a lot. Um so my name is Elder. I'm a founder of um Hedgeley. Uh we are running also a community of app founders uh where we discuss um things like that essentially like progress in app space the new things ads
content automations and stuff like that. And I also run a marketing intelligence tool um that helps me plug in all the information about the market to make some of the decisions. Um and based in London. Gotcha. Cool. Uh yeah, now there is so much talk about open claw about the automation w coding sol developing especially for apps. I feel like it's a huge intersection now between the all of the AI tools
and app development. It's getting like if it's not a mainstream already, it's become a mainstream for sure.
Um so yeah, let's just dive deep and uh share your screens. show us what you got.
Sure. Yeah. And just to add on on what you said, I think it's h blending really quickly uh in a way that we we see a lot of the things that are changing right now for for founders and uh we can't really distinguish now uh something that
was like strictly an AI thing and a human thing a couple of years ago. Now it's kind of everything can be done by AI but in some way uh or with some clever setup. And I think that's going to be um it's going to be changing even more in the future because we're going to see more use cases where AI can actually be um even far more superior than than humans are. But let me go ahead and share my screen. Hopefully you can see uh see the screen now. Um so I'll I'll start with introducing the topic of like the the tool why we're here essentially which is open claw. It's um an AI agent which is not surprising uh because we we heard of AI agents I think for the last three years and I you know at the start of the podcast I said to you that I was shocked that you know something like that became so popular because I've been working with specifically AI agents for for 3 years. I've been working a lot with AI
sales agents and and B2B agents in general and um they were not that good you know a couple of years ago but I think um a few important changes happened since then and and that's why um things like open claw became so popular um and and and are now like disrupting the whole app space in particular because it can do so many things for you um that nothing else, no other tool is able to do and that's um yeah that's the amazing part of it. So essentially what open claw is it's a I treat it personally as an employee. So I treat it as an inexperienced employee that can do great things somehow but you need to verify what it does. That's how I treat uh open claw. Even with you know some of the things like the security setup and other things it's not a traditional software like you would expect uh to behave 10 years ago but it
it's it's still a software but with human traits and and it it acts as a human uh with internet access. So that's how I treat um OpenCloud. Um what it can do is that you can talk to it through any of the chat apps. So you can talk to it on WhatsApp, Telegram, Discord. Um I personally pick Telegram. The reason why and by the way this is a hack for everyone watching here is that you can create a group chat on Telegram and then you can create a subtopics in this group chat and that way for each subtopic it could be a different context window and different like sub agent essentially. So your let's say you have a John as open claw your your open claw name John a John can talk to you in multiple um sub subtopics um and for different top for different topics essentially so whatever you have on your mind you can talk to John in different subgroups um that's
really useful if you have some multiple things going on like with uh John the coder you talk about coding and you know setting up the repos and updating the with John the marketer. He does the the setup ad setup for you. John the researcher does the analysis of ads of your competitors. So, it's really useful. So, check it out. You know, people talk about that as well on X um how they set up it through the group topics and it's um a really cool setup. Um the the second thing um that I like is that it has the persistent memory in files. So, you can actually see that memory and easily edit it. So, whenever I hear something that is weird, like it it copied some of the details that I've talked about, I go to the memory um folder and I just try to find it and edit it or I ask it to edit it out as well. That that could work as well. Um, and you know, the craziest thing here, right, that I was against actually a
couple of years ago is this one, the full system access. And it opened me another tool of like what it can do, what scripts to run. Essentially, it can do everything. That's the crazy part about OpenClaw. It can write files, it can read files, it can delete files, can create files, it can um use any pseudo command. So meaning any admin access to the server, it can do it. So super logical question right now. Why would you ever let AI run the whole server, right? And that's the whole idea is because when you let it run the whole server, you risk a lot. At the same time, you gain a lot because with that risk, you have an autonomous AI agent that can actually run and do things without you approving every step that it does. And with new models that are coming out right now, it becomes better and better every day. and and you can actually see the progress in security
and also in how it behaves and does uh things and and tasks. So that's why you you have the you know the full system access for it. Um another thing is that it can actually apart from doing things on your server it can do things in your browser. So it can it can browse the your browser I think through the extension. Although I'm not like personally my risk profile is that I don't allow OpenCloud to have any access to my own computer. I don't want it to be you know using my browser. So I just created its own browser and I don't I I wanted to use that browser in a sandbox like use it you know whatever you want to do do it. um I trust it. Although there there are risks and I want to you know tell tell everyone here is that once you when you do the setup of open claw you must have some fundamentals of cyber security in a way that you need to understand that the prompt injection for example is possible and there is no 100%
defense against it right now and I think uh there will never ever be any 100% defense uh against prompt injection but for browser you can use uh some of the things that even open close suggest like uh the brave.com um you know ex API essentially uh that lets you use um um Brave technology to search on Google for example and um it's really good because it it can actually do you know the same things you do with Google on your computer but um it gives AI um MCP server and it can use that to to search for different things. And by by the way, what is an MCP server? Just a quick overview for those who haven't heard that term before. MCP is model context protocol. Um, and essentially it's uh a protocol which is like um how to do things, an instruction for AI on how to
get information that it needs. So um it's like API for those who know what API is. Um it's a way programs talk to each other. MCP essentially is the way that AI talk to programs. So we have the browser which is the way humans talk to websites. Um AI do the same but through MCP essentially they see the text instead of images although they sometimes see images as well. So yeah this is essentially an overview of like how open does things um
how it works.
Yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah, let's tackle the MCP first. If it can access the browser,
why does it need to use MCP? Um so it accesses the browser through the um MCP in my case. Uh the reason why is because you can access the browser but um if you you you can give it direct
access to like headless browser but you know many websites block it in a way that you cannot actually see the content of the website because they they think you are a bot which is true you are uh but you know it's it's the reality. So you use an MCP server to like uh for example another tool that is called fire crawl. It's a tool that allows you to scrape any website. You can deploy it by the way on the same server and it can can run on the same server. Uh but it will use some clever techniques to actually get the page. Um or you can use you know other scraper websites that can you just pay per website and it just scrapes it. Um for the browser you you can do some things like you can for example fill in the forums um and stuff like that if you need to actual you know interaction but to save tokens and to ensure that you're using um the the context window efficiently um and
without any troubles in terms of like proxies and stuff like that. MCP service to some tool that allows you to scrape websites easily, consistently and cheaply is a is a good solution. I see. I see. Super helpful. And um can you please clarify if uh the open law is deployed on your machine or you have a separate laptop or
Yeah. So um I I know it's extremely popular to deploy on Mac Minis and it's like um yeah, it's it's a new trend and it's it's actually so cool. I mean, I I probably going to get a Mac Mini myself and and deploy something there. It's it's it's cool to have a computer that is next to you and you feel like there is something living inside of it, right? Um so it's a really I think cool um you know feeling but you know to be perfectly honest you don't need Mac mini to run open claw um in my case it all uh
runs on a private network of uh um of um VP essentially um a server so it runs on a server um that is only accessible by me and um on this server I did the whole setup for open claw uh and that's where I have it. So I don't know I mean it's physically it's in the UK. I don't know exactly where the server is. I just use the cloud provider and I know somewhere there you know my John lives so um he's somewhere in the UK.
Is it harder to set it up like you did on a server somewhere other versus a actual machine physical machine that's next to you?
I mean there is no difference. whatsoever in terms of the setup. Um I think it's even easier because um um cloud providers like Google um AWS Azure
by Microsoft they all give you the tools to secure your um server. So because I know these tools and I've worked with them before I already knew what to use. You know for local machine I would go full lockdown in terms of like it can cannot be accessed from the internet. Uh but again if something like if you have no electricity or you know uh internet uh goes down then you need to do you know everything you need to restart everything and stuff like that. So I would rather have a really high reliability and and know that it's secured because I have the tools there. But again, you can secure your local setup the same way, even more because you can lock it down from the internet and only use it in a local network here with your computer for example.
Gotcha. Gotcha.
Awesome.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Please, please move
move on.
Yeah. So, the next thing is um what I want to show you. So, we we we walk through the browser and you know that how it works, what it does essentially. So hopefully uh by this time um everyone understands what you know what open claw is for. So essentially it's like an employee but assume you know I like to treat it as um um you know as a brain exercise. I like to treat open claw as an employee without the tools. So I I like to see it as a human that cannot do things without learning exactly how to do them. Um and that's where skills and plugins come come in place, right? So what we have here is that we have Clawhub which is a a hub of skills essentially and it has 11,000 I just saw 11,000 different skills that are uh published by community. So what a skill
is? A skill is essentially a skill. It's it's it's like it's an ability for AI to learn how to do some certain things. It could be a broad skill on on like hey here's the skill how to edit videos like if you need to cut it you need to use that function. If you need to uh add music you need to use that function. If you need to search for inspiration um you know photos you need to uh find them here and stuff like that. So it's a specific or it's a broad skill on how to edit videos in general. That could be a very specific skill how to edit podcasts that we publish on YouTube and and you can step by step explain the process and anytime you you say hey here's you know a new video that dropped I upload it to you. I want you to edit it for our podcast uh YouTube channel. And then it will go okay do I have the skill? And then it will go and search for YouTube podcast editing skill and it will find
oh okay so the first thing I need to you know um clean up the audio and remove all these sounds and I I I'll do it first and then it goes and and does that and then the second step is to I don't know change the colors add the the B-roll or something like that. So it will do so um every time you know you you explain how to do things. So what essentially you can do here is that you can search and download any skills and actually you can install a skill to download a skill. So that's that's how deep we go. So um you can install skill to your John the Open Claw agent and John will actually search for skills and install it uh on the machine. Um one word of advice always keep this high suspicious. Do not download things that you don't know about because um anyone can upload it to here. They implemented some of the security features. So that's good but you know always be careful. Um
so some of the skills for example here is that one one that I like but actually I didn't set up uh for now but I will in the future is this one go. So essentially it's a skill explaining how to use go which is Google something Google probably or I don't know it's something related to Google workspace essentially CLI that helps you or helps the agent to use Gmail calendar drive contacts sheets and docs. So you can actually use that to uh fully operate Google you know workspace um and your agent can do that. So what that means essentially is that you can have your employer on the email and then they can check every 30 minutes for new emails that come in and react to them for example. So that's one of the use cases or you know if someone messages you and um it's related to your some of the documents that you need to send or something like that and maybe your open
claw agent has it you can just send it to open claw and say hey actually we need to upload these documents here and it will do so for you. So this is the skill that you can use. So essentially you you press the button to uh you can download zip here or you can go to open claw and say hey I found this go skill. I want you to install it and it's going to install it and use it um you know for whatever things you you need um it for essentially. Um I see other you know popular um skills here like self-improving agents. So um it captures learnings errors and connect corrections to enable continuous improvement. you know, interesting. We're interesting. The site is a bit laggy, I think, because so many people are going to the uh the claw hub and now downloading the um the the skills and you know, in the recent days, it's so popular right now that I can imagine why they're a little bit slow. But yeah, here's the skill for example on how to, you know, work with
um with learnings, with errors, with um with um with everything else. And you can see all the files that been uploaded to this skill here. So, uh skill is essentially a text. Um hey agent, this is how you do things. But also you can have like um um for example scripts like this one activator. I don't know what it does but probably does something. Um so we have the activate. I don't know why it you know opened some other page. Yeah. So they are here. Here here you go. So you need to check with again. Yeah, the the website is a bit like it's probably been made by OpenClaw uh itself. So that's why but you know it's um essentially what I'm trying to say there are files that can do harm uh if you don't check them. So I always check them and I always check them not only with open claw but I'll also check them with cloud code for example to ensure that they are actually safe. Uh I can also see that they've done uh the
analysis here. So open claw did that analysis and virus total as well. It's a very reputable cyber security firm uh that ensures the security of uh the files here. So that's a really good sign that you have high confidence that this um you know specific skill is safe to use. So yeah you can find any skills on club you can install it and use it with your own agent. So what that means for appspace for example right uh because we're here to talk about appspace in appspace that means you can for example download a skill that would help you create Tik Tok videos and then you can publish those Tik Tok videos um get views and get uh users right that's what I do uh you know right now and I just got approved for my uh marketing intelligence tool um you know I just got approved by Meta and Tik Tok and YouTube to actually be able to post from my own platform form to those platforms and automate this process. So what I've done
now is that I exposed essentially the endpoint to open claw and openclaw can use that endpoint to create videos and upload them to Tik Tok and and Instagram and um you know I have some results to share. I actually have some videos that got um you know thousand thousand more than a thousand views right now and it's been just I think two days um and it's it's it's getting there. So I think the more I publish the more active I am on social media with open claw I can actually automate the whole content creation process with it. So for that reason, you know, I would use CLHOB to look for, you know, video editing skills, uh, image editing skills, Nano Banana, the new, um, model by Google, uh, for images, a skill here, definitely. So, we can actually go and browse and we can search something for like Nano Banana and I'm sure we'll find some
skills that allow they explain to agent how to actually work with Nana Banana, how to call it, how to do it, you know, perfectly for the prompt and and stuff like that. So, you can you can search them all here. Uh, and they're going to give you a specific step-by-step instructions uh for that. Yeah, that seems like completely new area of expertise.
Oh yeah.
Like this is a whole new layer and another layer. Yeah. I mean it's a it's just uh you know it's when you look at it the complexity has increased like drastically in a way that you you now have um so many things that you know so complex to understand even for if you are in this whole space um and you now the the the tech part needs to come there. So the the security part
needs to go there, the all the infrastructure needs to come there and the automation, the right processes, stuff like that. And you know, one of the things that I noticed is that OpenClaw publishes a new update every day with tens sometimes hundreds of security fixes and and and bug uh fixes and stuff like that. So you can imagine how how fast it's growing. Um, and that's a good thing about it actually because I think yeah, you know, if a 100 uh security uh things were fixed. Um, it's it's bad that they were 100 security things to fix, right? But it's also good that you can see the progress and that the community is active and that even cyber security uh professionals have joined in to actually make the open claw more secure which is always great to see. So, and actually you can always go to open claw GitHub and you can see almost 15,000 commits
which is uh you know it's essentially uh pieces of codes that were sent by people. 15,000 it's a lot. Also there is a lot of stars. Stars essentially it means if you rate something like uh you like the code here or you like the tool you put a star here. So um that I think it's uh the highest you know the fastest growing uh repository in terms of stars on GitHub uh but also it's one of the you know biggest uh repositories that are public with that many stars one of the biggest maybe it's going to be the biggest one um you know and it's compared even to like some very OG things like TypeScript and and you know the big big things that everyone uses. Now, OpenClow will uh will be here as well and you know as they are now acquired or sponsored heavily by OpenAI uh should I say uh they are now going to
be I think growing even faster and uh they're going to be probably integrating more and more into OpenAI infrastructure, OpenAI models and and stuff like that. But it's still going to be um an open-source tool. Uh which is uh which is great because you can run it uh you can use it and you don't need to pay anyone anything. You just need to make sure that you use it correctly and then whatever you do you do it securely.
Gotcha. You've mentioned it already about your Tik Tok account. Uh
let's let's just clarify for the audience what is the business model here like because you're not doing UA yet.
Yeah. So uh what is the like how how this thing works? So uh what I do is that I I run so I have subscription apps right. I have seven apps right now. My main app that I run is AI interior designer app. So essentially it's the
app I experiment a lot with in terms of marketing. That's what um you know I'm going to say in terms of the marketing. I do a lot of experiments there because it's a it's a great visual app. You you can work with so many angles there. So for that app specifically we have a Tik Tok account for example this one. And we we post videos like uh like this one here uh which is a video of you know room redesign for example. it got, you know, 38,000 uh likes and 25,000 comments and more than 700,000 views. But some of the videos like this one here was posted by Open Core for example fully 100%. I've I've done nothing. So it just uploaded the video. You know, I explained it once my previous, you know, video that uh I think that one here. I explained this video to Open Claw and I said, "Hey, actually this video got 700,000 views. Let's make similar
videos." So, you can see it has the same like um font. It has the same words. Um and the idea is the same actually. It just changes the room design and you know, shows different room layouts and stuff like that. It's only got like a thousand views, but still I really like that you know I didn't do anything. I didn't spend even a second thinking about that and that's that's the whole idea because you know my my strategy and business model right now is that people going to see that and they see right here by the way made this in space AI app. So they're going to go and search it on uh app store space AI app and they're going to find my app. there is only probably 0.1% going to do that out of all people that watched. So for for every thousand views you get you get approximately one user which is a really low conversion but at the same time once we pass I think 1,000 um followers on
Tik Tok um there there will be definitely um an ability for us to put a link I think in our profile so we can use ten for that to track the attribution from Tik Tok and the conversion going to be higher because they're going to see the link in the bio right now they can't see the link, so they need to go and actually search for it. But that's also good for ASO because we we get some boost because Apple thinks it's organic um and stuff like that. So it's it's it works both ways. Of course, the bad side is that the conversion is really low, but the good side is it might boost us um ISO as well. Um so that's how it's going to work in terms of the scale, you know, because it's fully automated. You can imagine how how how big this is uh you know, can go. You just need to make sure the infrastructure underlying infrastructure which is the hardest part right now is uh making sure you can have multiple Tik Tok accounts or uh multiple open claw agents running and doing it consistently. Um but I I do that through
uh my platform because we have the posting infrastructure there. So whenever open does things I always make sure it does it 24 hours ahead. So uh when it did all the planning for tomorrow for example I can log into uh MD OS and I can actually go and see you know what what post it created so that if there is something that is wrong or looks weird I can always fix that before it goes live. So that's my safe mechanism for example here. So, I want to ensure it, you know, it never produces some bad content that's going to hurt my brand or uh or just be, you know, a really bad conversion post. So, that's how it's done um on Tik Tok. And uh same thing is on Instagram here as well. So, we have an Instagram account. Um you know, we we post reals here. Uh for example, that that one here got uh 1,700 views. That one here, oh, it's
2,000. I just saw this. Okay, that's cool. So, it's one day ago, 52 likes, 2,000 views are completely done by um Open CL and and this video, the whole video is done by Open Claw. So, you see it it I mean I explain it very well in a way like is I what I think it's going to work. You need to remember that, right? And this is a skill for it. you know, I created a skill on how to create this videos exactly as I wanted. Uh, but with some fluctuations like it can pick its own images, it can write its own text, it can uh pick its own music and stuff like that. But everything else is done by uh me actually explaining it to you know step by step of what I want to see so that it doesn't uh hallucinate in a way like it tries to come up with some new format and it's it's not going to work that that good right now. it's not going to work that good, but it still
already works really really well in a way that you know you can see the um if it if it can see the video if it can see by the way I can send it a video and I say hey take a screenshots every 3 seconds in this video to understand how the video changes so that you understand what to do and it goes and does that it finds all the you know video changes slides it can actually oh this is a video showing different types of rooms So I can make the same one for you and then it does that. So that's um you know a really good way of explaining to model what to do. Yeah, we have another video here 1600 views. Some of the videos didn't go like this two here. You know only 200 views essentially but I I think we'll get there. You know we just started doing that I think from this post here. Yeah, that's the that's two days ago or something like that. Yeah. And I wasn't even approved. So I was doing it semi manual. So, I was actually logging in and uploading it personally, but um now it's going to be fully
automated. So, I'm going to jump on that rocket and I'm going to try to high to fly as high as possible with with the setup that I'm going to have. You still do QA uh manually, right? So, it produce a real, but you want to be sure that it's good enough. So you would watch it before actually publishing it, right?
Yes. Yeah. That's I mean I only what I do is I consume things. So I I just consume whatever it produces and I'm like, "Yeah, that's good. Let's go."
But uh that's the only thing that I um I haven't automated yet. And the reason why I I don't trust it that that much. Like even if I could, I probably can automate it with another agent overlooking these videos and making sure they're correct, but I still like personally I wouldn't want to wake up in the morning and just know that the first
thing I need to do is open my phone to see what my agent has posted. Like that's a scary feeling for me. So I would rather check it uh you know a couple of hours for maybe a couple of like you can watch like 50 posts in probably 30 minutes. So if you if you create 50 pieces of content a day for every day of demands you can imagine the scale but you can still only spend one hour a day of u you monitoring the whole system.
Gotcha. But makes sense like makes a lot of sense.
Yeah. So
you also me mentioned multiple agents. So I would like to understand better. We had John and is John is a multiple agents or there will be like other names Bob whatever they will do different tasks. So that's that's the hardest question
that you ask me because that's still an really open question and discussion in open claw community and in agentic community in general. Should you create multiple agents or should you make one agent robust and um and uh be able to do multiple things. I am currently in group number two. So what I have is I have a John that can do many things. Great. and I just explain to it exactly what I want to to for John to make. Right? The another group that is more autonomous, they they like that multiple agents talk to each other. The reason why I don't like multiple agents like John, Bob, and and Tom talking to each other is because they first they consume a lot of tokens. And I'm not greedy, but you know, it's you need to pay for those tokens. So um um that's that that's the the bad part of of of multi- aent setup. Secondly is that you need to fine-tune every single agent in a way that you know um copies essentially. So you need to copy the
setup for three agents uh instead of doing it for one. And thirdly there there is no reason for me right now to do that. Although I do have two agents. So I have I I didn't name the second actually but I have the second agent that works with my um it can see the finances and analytics and um it's it's not sensitive data but it's something that I wanted to experiment with like can I lock down the agent. So what I've done is I lock down one agent to only use specific tools and it cannot go to internet it can uh cannot execute any commands. It cannot do anything. It can just read stuff. That's it. Because it has access to financial information essentially that I want to keep locked down. So I locked it down and I I see my main agent using that agent to actually get the information out. But the financial agent cannot edit anything financial just
because it's locked down. Um and uh you know it can cannot be prompt injected. it can you know but again because I'm a I always ask myself is it true is it like 100% true and the answer is probably no because it can be problemed from the main agent still like there is always you know I mean there yeah so the reason why I don't use multi- aent setup is that you know why would you use it if it's not uh you know if it's not 100% safe for security it uses more tokens and it's harder to set I am working on that alone. I want John to be able to do many things good, right? And I have multiple sessions. So that's how I have multi-agentic John. It's like, you know, the bipolar John. It has multiple versions of it. There there was a film, right, where the guy was like having different versions of himself.
Really popular one. Yeah. Yeah. So that
that's that's my John, right? It can be multiple things in one at the same time in multiple different sessions. The only difference between this John and an you know multi- aent setup is that my John has the same memory uh the same instructions and the same tools available to each copy of John right so that way um I know exactly what John can do. I don't need to remind myself of any any of the setup but um it can do many things and because the the skills are so good in a way they are not being uploaded to context on the go only when you tell John to hey you need to learn that skill it will go and learn how to use that and then the context will fill up because of this minimization you can actually see that um you know John is really good at um understanding what to do and when to do it without being bloated in context at all.
Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Again, like another area of knowledge, additional knowledge that we probably won't
will need to uh figure out. And yeah, it's evolving. uh like last months. I just learned about it recently and you were telling me you knew about this kind of agents like years ago, right? So there is a there are new things every month basically.
Yeah. I mean there were like a chanting framework from Microsoft years ago um that was published after you know first agents appeared probably second months after GPT3 came out in 2022. Like the the idea is clear here like let's if it can talk it can run commands if it can run commands it can do things if it can do things let it do things autonomously that's the you know the first thing you want to try it out and then it was it
was done and you know because we had multi- aent setup because of the context and um you know so the the way the agents were so bad at uh following the commands and um you you you have multiple agents and essentially one agent was essentially one skill. That's how it was done previously. But now because we have skills, you don't actually need to create a separate agent for it. You can just in different sessions for different copies of John, you can load different skills. So John is going to be skilled in different things and you can talk to different Johns in a way, you know. Um, so that's how it's going to uh that's how it's going to work.
Got you. I think we only scratched the surface with this. So
yeah, let's uh let's ask everyone to give us a like.
Yeah,
subscribe. Uh definitely leave your comments. will ask to
answer the comments, but also it might give us some ideas to do another video. Again, there's so many use cases and so many uh areas of expertise that we can explore. Um we can even uh feed this video to your John.
Oh, I will. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And let let's see. Let Yeah, let's do that. uh let's fit it and uh we can then link it in uh the video description or in the comments so people could see what would it do like and if they can have a part if that was made by an agent or not.
Yeah.
Um
yeah, 100%. Yeah, I agree. I think uh uh we we just on the tip of the iceberg, right? We we just getting started especially in app space. you know, the first thing that comes to mind, automating content, but we're going to be, you know, they're going to be use cases of automating UA as well. And I
know some people that are doing that already. So, I'm going to uh give you a tip after the the video uh the podcast. I'll give you some context. So, maybe you can invite them for a podcast as well because they're doing automation of the uh user acquisition essentially with open claw and
testing creatives and stuff like that.
Uh I think it's very interesting. We we had have this API to create campaigns and uh tracking URLs within Tangent. So that actually fits.
Yeah. I mean I I think you should make MCP uh when you can because with MCP server then my agent can talk to my attention and create the campaigns and everything. I mean you can do that with API already that you have. I just need to wrap it in my own MCP and then it's
we already Yeah. But then then it's all done. Yeah.
Um yeah. Anything else? We have like two minutes. Any uh things you want us to
write in the description to this video or how how can people basically find you?
Yeah. So we are on a school.com. It's a website for hosting community. So, school.com ship uh essentially it's a ship uh ship as a community for app founders for those who are looking to launch and scale um mobile applications. Uh what we do there is discuss different things. You can also find me on um LinkedIn as well. Um and I'm I'm on LinkedIn. I'm on axe as well. So my axe is elder software. Um and um that's how you can find me. And yeah, that's pretty much it. And we're going to be launching a new market intelligence tool, as I said, um soon. They're going to be videos coming out. Maybe we're going to have another podcast on, you know, finding app ideas and stuff like that. So, we'll see how it goes. But, um, yeah, thank you for having me.
Yeah. Yeah, of course. Super helpful. And then, um, yeah, thanks for watching
and have a good one.
Thanks. See you. Bye-bye.
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