HBY completely changed Mobile gaming with archero and then again completely changed the whole [ __ ] landscape with surv Survivor and now going to do it again most likely yeah exactly with I'm gonna tell you why and and like why nobody can keep up with them that this going to be also very important it's very important I mean I can see I can see that happening I can see that happening immediately cuz it's different it's it's so different from everything else but not only different they just have like Giant Head Start system [Music] exactly this is a no [ __ ] gaming show where we talk about games and their revenue in great detail powered by our ad monetization game design and user acquisition Triple Threat expertise welcome to the two and a half Gamers the unfiltered truth served with a side of giggles
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giant rodent kind of but this like it's you need to look all of these videos like it's like three 13 million views 3.3 million views and then like here is the explanation why exactly yeah well I want to this this is very important ah C riding on the crocodile exactly EX like where did we see that hm where did we see that oh wait a sec oh yes that's right again we are talking about capy barago and capy barago is latest hit from HBY and interesting fact is baking 700k per day interesting fact number two it's not live in US yeah it's going to be so big what I'm going to talk about on the U side and if all of the videos you will see you will [ __ ] your pant literally like they're
doing everything right everything right I'm also the game is great so yeah because this will be probably like one of my biggest product deep Dives I will ever do very long one I have Margarita I have coffee I'm ready I'm ready for you also ran a half marathon right now right yes I have I I ran half marathon and I have the hoodie to Gamers oh my God I'm yeah I'm so ready let's go looking forward okay I can't feel I can't feel my legs but it's fine so we start as usual with the game play yes please do yeah yeah let's let's go let's go by the way the game play When the kar is walking that is so cool I just love watching it walk it's so funny or we do it a little bit different and we do yes please
part as I'm going to ask you questions to see how good you are and how much attention have you been paying during our latest episodes because I as I was in Berlin and you two were not there I us yeah I know oh yeah yeah okay okay good good quiz I read a quiz nice so how this is going to run is pretty much I'm going to show a cou I go before we talk about the game because then you'll know all the secrets so I'm just going to show a GI from capy barago and you tell me from which game it is been taking the ideas or the iterations O so let's go I'm there I'm there I'm full in let's go yeah it's the where's the jef uh monopo yeah there monopo Monopoly go yeah thank you very much next one next thank God he doesn't thank God he
doesn't run half marathons every day cuz he's super annoyed I know uh Legend of mushroom thank you very much bye no one this is not leg mushroom the Felix oh [ __ ] I remember this but not right now lucky defense [ __ ] you lucky defense sorry sorry there we go oh my God one oh well this is Legend of mushroom mushroom Legend of mushroom where think of it think of the mechanic it's most mostly used in like a one specific genre this kind of energy multi ID kind of what it does if you have ex energy no no no no if you have excess energy and you can increase your rewards and then make the game go into alop play oh
there's Al also Monopoly go sorry yeah it's it's pretty much every Social Casino it's not Monopoly go it's like all the social run this this mechanic times five yeah yeah fair enough we'll get it you'll see how the puzzle will slowly starts to itself so H superpowers that they are able to execute on the best trends that they're seeing that's working and then just put it all together yeah it's it's one of the one of the things uh this one is pretty much this kind of UI layout of the side mode this was like a load complete Legend of slime yeah kind Legend of slime is also the same good answer but it's pretty much either legendo slim legendo mushroom they have the same kind of this kind of 2 key layout like all the side modes coming soon the same uh this one that's Legend of mushroom as well that's Legend of mushroom as well yep that's Legend of mushroom is also in Legend of slim same with this kind of a
ability locking mechanic where you reroll the abilities you can pay extra to kind of keep the one that you want and then like you know improve your damage based on the like the stats that you roll there uh this one more more this this back Heroes backpack Heroes what Legend of slime this is Legend of slime slash uh Legend of mushroom SL SL lot of like people are using the M mechanic they have iterated it I'll get to it how how they actually did that I didn't see in the clcs this one this one this one's very interesting that's Legend of mushroom as well no no I have no idea no idea no idea you haven't talked about it yet you both played it I I played it oh yeah true of course you both played it it's this year is the
Talk of the Town what what's happening here we're clicking on on on some kind of a gacha chest and by every click we increase its Randomness Rarity if you're lucky oh lucky defense no Jesus Christ you're shouting lucky toan Legend of mushroom for everybody just okay just tell us because this is not good this is not entertaining oh yeah okay fair enough oh my God yes oh brawl star it's not star it's squadb squadb star it's coming from bra star of course the the lucky chest thing oh well I didn't I didn't connect this at all yeah yeah they like they literally are taking everything that works I mean but you know it's not illegal right like there's no gam no it's the key here that you take only the thing that you need and that's compatible that's very very important exactly yeah collect the so let's get to the actual game now that we see like how and
what did we win where's the what did we win where's the pr price is on my background I think M can wins let's say anyway so Cy B go uh let's officially start um it's the newest game from hubby it has very very different feel to it on the core side because as usual with all the hubby games they're changing the core The Meta is definitely the bread and butter meta but it's getting major upgrades and I mean major major upgrades from all the like you'll see as I will pretty much go through it so let's start with the core itself uh and just play so how it works is basically you go into this very very passive basically Loop where what you do is pretty much you click on the bottom where it's mostly we have our you know usual skill randomizer R guide RPG you you know click on some of the skills that your character uses but then what
happens you encounter all of these other kind of random mechanics like this one where we have seen lucky defense exactly it's from Lucky defense so let's say let's take a chance for this one yeah there we go of course you lucky bastard you always you always lucky [ __ ] bastard always Jes that's great let's go uh but what's happening here pretty much human being that's not possible of course so what's happening here is basically you have a little bit of player input a little bit of it and then the game pretty much plays itself so most of the time you're not even battling you're just you know selecting stuff and like next day and next day or like again some kind of a choice or something or like you know what this reminds you of like where have seen this kind of a core perform very very well Legend a mushroom
I was in this this uh what was the the Survivor followup we discussed what was this is much more close to something like Monopoly go because this is how actually Monopoly go Works in a way that you roll the dice and then you go on the board you get some reward too much no no no think of it why they why they put the safe mechanic because you have these smaller inputs like you'll choose here or choose there it's pretty much illusion of choice and the game plays itself and there's lots of visual candy there lots of visual stuff and like stuff like that but what you're basically like you see like nothing happened here I just like click the buttons then like pretty much again nothing happened here I just click the button so I can't really affect it anyway just by selecting the skills that's it so what's happening is we see a stretch towards like much more kind of passive player input but still you have a lot of these AG grandom mechanics because they fun they're great to do
they're great to have you interact with the game yeah exactly and you think like you're choosing something but basically you're not like we didn't do anything here so on so forth but yeah it is very very similar vibe to something like Monopoly go like I mean yeah it's like instead of the board you have the this layout you have the battle there kind of it's kind of a anyway because it always stretches through 60 days like every run is up to it's not true it's not true it's not true it's it's not always 60 days 60 days 60 days are for travel but for here it's sometimes it's five sometimes it's 25 sometimes it's 40 sometimes it's 60 so it's not always this this is this is basically monopolio this is absolutely yeah yeah yeah for sure uh yeah sometimes they have it differently where let's say the level is smaller so there's like 15 days and you need to like select five skills immediately because they just like stream stream of bosses at some point but this makes the game like super interesting it's not always like it's different like
they they they pretty much like you know remove all the friction of you moving from quests or whatever or like characters blah blah blah this and that you just press one button that's it is that is this is this the future of games like you don't do [ __ ] you just watch seriously I think it's future of mobile games okay on that note thank you very much for listening this is it future of games you just play you just push one button and you just watch works really well because like what you do like we pretty much like have like infinite gacha opening and infinite like Randomness that like you know works really well we still have is that random though you have you have scripted things if you if you see them yeah it's it's not random at all it's just completely scripted as usual but you have the the interesting difference between This and like Monopoly goop is that Monopoly is complete Randomness whereas here we have our RPG meta game overlapping into this
which means we still get the power from it So eventually we're going to win and move forward which is this is why it's so sticky because it's kind of like a slot machine yeah yeah like it's it's it's it's kind of like a slot machine actually yeah it is yeah it is pretty much a slot machine yeah like with some battles and like stuff over it but it's again a glorified FL machine pretty much Jesus and and and keep in mind this is the first time the HBY guys literally went out of like any skill based input no you know Archer is you need to move around Survivor again you need to move around and like do some stuff collect things run from bosses and there's like even evade abilities whatever same goes for kjaan same goes for pumble same snaker was the most demanding one here like this is like complete nothing like you just press one button that's it like really no you know no try Harding whatever something something thing like there we go there's like giant luck here
and that's it and everybody feels great like let's move on so yeah it's complete complete kind of diversion from the usual like hubby very hard to like I know Archer was super super hard even from the beginning first chapters so this is super easy and for most of the times you just win by playing the game because eventually you get stronger just by accumulating energy and getting you know resource from UPG you upgrade the the capy and then you just get better skill better stats and then that's that's it basically here again Randomness nothing nothing to it like pretty much every three or four days there's some random event happening that kind of pays very well that's it so on top of it by the way the the other very big difference there are no ads in the core zero yeah is crazy sad huh you don't want ads to get in the way of this money making but the thing is like you die and if
there was an ad you just progress faster and then you die you just go from the very beginning which is exactly the point of the game um kind of but are kind of known to not have rewarded ads in the core Loops they always had it on the menu no no no no no they but you had archero when you died there there was an you had the spin whe there was an AR is the yeah every one of those previous games had the Revival ad you Di can restore and you also have devils and [ __ ] which gives you like spin wheels like do you want to run again watch an so they had that they went completely away from it now but is there roll somewhere for oh no it's not no no nothing not even roll no do refresh actually you can get refresh for free that's it but not yeah no you don't need to click on the on on the scale by the way oh no and and by the way it's pretty long like sometimes when from day one to day 60
like pretty much the whole Ro Glide run it takes like 15 minutes sometimes you really need to like by the end of it or let's say from day 30 you really need to now think which skills to pick complement your build is actually like pretty hard to do that it is really hard so because then from the very beginning he like ah it's fine and then I was like oh wait a second it's day 30 like now I need to actually pay attention to to do otherwise it won't work at all so and there's a lot of risk reward mechanics like the devil that you see there that you know do you want to get stronger on behalf of like losing your health or you want to get whatever it this or be greedy and spin again for your yeah you have the Lucky Spin which is like two days before the main boss it's like okay do I want to spin again and lose 30% of my health it's like yeah [ __ ] yes and then I died immediately yeah great choice so there's a lot of these pretty much it's like a giant slot machine like
literally this is like unheard of and looks very very interesting by the way they still have Archer 2 in soft launch which is much more reminiscence of archero one so they're not really going away from it completely this could be but the important part this is from their signature gorilla Studio the guys that did Survivor yeah so this is their main bread and butter thing now there's no like snaker [ __ ] Karan [ __ ] this is the money money maker this is M money maker show downloads for the whole HBY portfolio just so we get an idea like where the downloads are and playing the game sure we can yeah1 million downloads total wow what was that oh of course survivio Jesus and then before by the way like H completely changed Mobile gaming with archero and then again completely change the whole [ __ ] landscape with with Survivor
Survivor and now it's going to do it again most likely yeah exactly with parag I'm going to tell you why and and like why nobody can keep up with them that this going to be also very important it's very important I mean I can see I can see that happening I can see that happening immediately because it's different it's it's so different from everything else but not only different they just have like Giant Head Start exactly CU they can reuse they can reuse everything they used before and now they they can they do reuse of course they do because that's smart that's smart and also the fact that they they are borrowing the mechanics from the other games that that work and also like just gluing them together so all compatible look like I said like that's like that's brilliant that's so brilliant see they really know their [ __ ] like they're so on top of their [ __ ] and they know what's going on like and this is by the way super hard it's just can't just take everything that works because you end up
in like stupid goulash you need to take only things that complement your own build that's really really important so we'll see yeah there we go we passed this see L yeah so this one was one of the shorter ones you see this was our build like how we can select the skills then go back to the menu and again bread and butter hubby progression uh segment into these chapters chapters you get you had the Head Start that's why you are on stage 19 I'm stage 12 what's your levels 12 Stage Felix I can't play it yet okay no comment uh so if we go further into this like how this actually work here is the idle mechanic now and the idle mechanic Has Changed by the way during the soft lunch as I've seen it so what's happening now instead of immediate because there are these like it used to be AFK rewards here as a third icon They removed it actually now it's hidden under travel you have the
AFK rewards which Stacks up to like 10 hours and like just cumulates as per normal but instead of like spending energy to get like two more hours or whatever something something they did this like start travel mechanics where you literally you know let's say I don't know how much have if you get the monthly card which I did it's like traveling on steroids so it's you don't need to watch all of this [ __ ] it's super fast and you get unlock Battle speed three times exactly exactly because I was I was really curious to see like what is the experience when I pay and I pay not for everything because I I didn't really have to pay but this is definitely like pay for Comfort like you you like to say exactly exactly exact and this is so good and also there was this Halloween kind of brilliant e like special offer with like the the usual pay 99 Cents you get five things for free and then pay another $5 or something and then I I
kind of got all of it and then there was the special offer number two and then you got pric is up as well he went from $5 to 20 and 40 and 50 I was like [ __ ] hell yes this is this is just great yeah this is they so this is amazing yeah but this is their this is their pretty much autop playay mechanic as we talk about like yeah no hands it's kind of play itself that's that yeah yeah exactly you just you just watch what's happening yeah and and what it does is pretty much just goes through the loop and what you get here is soft currency which soft huge amount of gold yeah huge amount of gold that you are then using to upgrade in their new let's say innovated upgrade three which is a little bit I would say I've seen better like don't get me wrong the does a job yeah it does a job it's not the same like usual like just click on button you actually three click button three buttons but it's illusion of choice anyway so yeah doesn't need to
do all of three yeah so it's it's going to stop to let's wait for this one to run out again this will be 60 days and afterwards just going to give us gold and there's like yeah mle random mechanics you should pay there'sa machines also by the way I see you have 479 and I have 999 by the way what do you mean for the monthly card yeah for the monthly card yes interesting yes very interesting yes super interesting because I first bought the special offer and then I bought the monthly card so based on my previous previous payment they increase the prices [ __ ] yes oh my God this is bril work his way yeah exactly like it's so good and then then you like you know like you people then just copy whatever HBY does but they don't know [ __ ] about all of these like yeah like oh what but it's not working as like
well no no really don't tell [ __ ] exactly no [ __ ] yeah so soft currency the the game runs on their usual like energy Loop they like to always play that one uh soft currency is now used only like through this thing where it's pretty much just kind of a is it's same version that they had before where you can like see it here in the preview it's the same three just like increasing stuff into like higher and higher and higher which occasionally gives you like this gives you like the the more stats and then just ability to power through the the stages like this is the only thing and improving the the gear you getting stronger without you being better like exactly yeah exactly this ex [ __ ] yeah exactly um then there's the signature HBY six slots uh progression with like you can get two legendaries without paying anything because I play a lot I play a
lot as well and I have see there's the difference between me and you and M no no oh Jesus Christ no fair enough fair enough skill it's not skill you just like the read a lot of builds and [ __ ] that's it yeah like you start off playing this game by like doing two hours of like required reading yeah it's it's called Min maxing that's it like that's it you just just you just said it yeah you just said it did on the previous podcast which is going to go live in on Wednesday by the way and it's another interesting episode which uh 90% of the industry doesn't have access to so definitely wait for Wednesday yep um so regarding the shop again they bread and butter nothing really to it the usual golden chest and [ __ ] chest where you get one ad for golden chest three ads for [ __ ] chest then you have the legendary chest which is the one that contains S gear like in
every hubby game there's like the sgear which is just a better one so no really kind of stuff to it you see the difference between the probability of like the Epic sgear is like 1.6% and the normal S gear epic gear is 10% so like there we go very big difference very big power level [Music] difference you see for instance my sky splitter here it has three stats if I compare with any other weapon it just have two stats so just roll power difference like it's just better so yeah you have that and then there's a typical merch system like pretty much again very very same nothing to it uh the big difference here if you remember how Survivor I launched when it launched it just launched with this and that's what it was just these six slots this bottom row of additional progression vectors was not there and this thing has it from the start why because hubby is slowly building their template and is getting
more robust and robust and robust and it gets immediately reused in their second game or the the consecutive game is going to make way more money and it's going to be way more polished prepared for everything more faster that's the big difference because you know the pet system it's their signature pet they have that like this is not new their um collectible system again is the same I'm going to use uh lemon's block thanks you lemon for getting very very good ony Baro and you can see it right here left screen is Survivor IO right screen is yeah it's the same thing there we go yeah it's the same thing even even the pets are the same yeah uh exactly this is the one the pet system they're using actually the one on the left is um nobody's Adventure Chop Chop so that's also where a lot of things are coming from people in the west maybe don't know this game that well but very popular
game in China is scaling like like crazy on wiet I know we talked about it and lemons showed it on the thecast as well yeah again another kind of example systems are taken from there uh I think I have few more screens there yeah the pet system actually I guess maybe uh Chop Chop did the pet system here first but if I remember it last time uh I saw it like their Mount and where we are their Mount and artifact system I remember in Legend of mushroom I don't know if like Legend of mushroom also take takes it from Chop Chop but like it's Chop Chop is older game I think way older than they both taking it from here but I seen it in Legend of mushroom the same exactly the same they have the same system the wheel yeah wine rain the wheel if it works and here you have the collectible system from Survivor IO and then toab Parago again one to one nothing really do it so and and this is
the like the big difference that we see here that not only they're taking everyone else's like you know the best of the best systems but also their own and like who can stop this because like they just like so far ahead of everybody else uh I think I have few more examples here that I want to show where was it yeah Legend of slime again this is the mold system that weal about this is you know who who HBY reminds me because they're always two and a half steps ahead of the industry there we go that jokes yes because I'm really looking forward to everybody else like talking about what we just talked about yeah and then we have the mon Monopoly go example the lucky defense example that that they took from like just like a side mechanic in the main mode and then I think there was one more that I wanted to talk about what was it oh no it was was not there yeah thank you lemon for the for the
update so that's for their progression vectors it's just like they already have a lot of them compared to everybody else in the game the very interesting s uh iteration with their pet system is that their pet system uh again it's very similar to the one that we saw there but actually if you go into the pets each of the pets has their own build that's the one that we talk from Legend of slime and legend of mushroom you can roll this until forever yeah yeah but in Legend of SL Legend of mushroom is like one build for everything you know all these like they're the statue of mushroom is just like you have like five slots for the whole game here you have five slots for every single pet Yes sounds like way more depth yeah way more span depth so there's the iteration that they not only took the system but like put it on steroids so there we have it and then uh I think few more kind of similar systems that we seen there
there's the guild system this is kind of pretty interesting I don't know if I saw it yet where you have the boss and the boss is kind of super short because you just select like few skills uh in the beginning and then the whole battle takes like three or four seconds because the boss is just like so strong and it's just like make sure that you can do as much damage in the first round and that's it because like just look at it and yeah he will Lally me kill me in like two or three three hits that that that's it this is like keep keep in mind like how far ahead I am already it's fine yeah so I don't know I can see only after the third round so yeah maybe maybe there's something with the simulation yeah there we go de yeah so they have uh social system right from the bat it's there their guil system again Survivor IO didn't have these features just also the arena as well yeah yeah there's Arena so the event system this is again Legend of mushroom
Legend of slime thing where you have these modes that each of those gives you specific currencies such as stamina gems pet food pedex whatever every one of these works on like linear progressions where you have a pretty much a stage that you're currently building it fighting if you can skip that great we move one stage higher we go higher stage that one probably die yeah we die then you go back prev one yeah we stuck so we sweep the previous one until we run out of tickets then we watch two ads and get two more tickets and that's it for the day and this goes for the same for this one this one and but then then what you can do and I always do this like I I go to the all these challenges events blah blah blah that accumulate energy just go for for travel like buy 50x just get all the all the money improve the like yeah the character and the copy button go progession yeah exactly exactly I mean it Tak a long time to actually start playing to just
click on everything yeah yeah exactly it's a short it's a short you just simulator yeah exactly it's a re simulator you just need to click on all these notifications and that's it pretty much Arena system is like Again by the way they have like this like why is this just from 2:00 a.m. till 6 like I play all the time I'm fine it's it's un synchronous like I don't get this wi yeah I I play I play here all the time in us so I'm fine dungeon is this kind of a a little bit like more streamlined version of the game like some kind of alternative mode Goblin Miner one yeah so they improved on the mining mechanic that we saw with the other games because instead of you going down all the time you go through these like floors where you need to find the copy King in each floor and then you click on him or Cy King copy King is for uh slots capy here it's find the C okay okay and then there's a small one and a big one yeah
yeah yeah yeah okay so if I saw the copy is the small one the copy King is the big one no no no no no occasionally you can f the big one but again it's not here where's like four there's not no change it's like no change it's the same it's the same thing it's just it's just bigger so I need I need I need to mine three other slots I can help not also in this floor yeah not not also here small one doesn't matter what matter is that you you get these whatever currencies which are used to roll those pet builds and then on top of it you get these birds and this is the part that I really hate this is the part yes this is the lucky defense the lucky defense make it out of Lucky defense like because it's amazing look because you know why because you you get all the IE candy in there it's like oh [ __ ] I could get the legendary I could get this I oh my God fling away yeah I got pretty lucky for a few times Lally this
is the second time this happened to me like five it happed once just like it's so sadistic like all the time everything great just flings away yeah of course yeah but that's the thing like that's the I candy what you can get and that's why hero I love it yeah I love it because you just want to you just want to get more of this you of course put in multi oh it's the same thing the same thing like the fail it's Al the fail it's fail the Crea friend I talked to our friend yesper he sent me actually a video of him uh doing this mechanic on the maximum on the maximum kind of roll where he spice it up all the way to 10 which takes [ __ ] of time to actually save for this thing yes and just look what happens I kind of know
that's great everything valuable got flung out of there so I'm great that I'm not alone with this because this is complete [ __ ] like it's stadistic I mean it does exactly what it should be it's very very frustrating and I think it's even more frustrating than lucky defense I don't know maybe the ODS they have here are just like even worse because it's just that like you see these like 5% chances of what they I mean it's it's maybe written here but I would say I would divide it by 10 it's just like lucky defense it was bad but this is even worse which is makes it amazing my guess is that maybe in Asia like this is like a very popular mechanic defense and we are missing maybe something like very ticktock or whatever but like it's sadistic sorry like this I mean this is this is like you said before this is G on steroids right so you know you want to all things here and it's that statistic like means like you want it
even more whatever yeah we'll see uh yeah finishing the feature set so there's [ __ ] ton of events running all around there's their privilege card thing which is again taken from Legend of mushroom it's again same layout same everything like they had this all like all the passes in one menu like it's taken from there bread and butter very very good monetization they have these events there we have the CH this is this is the one that I I bought yeah this is the chain offer the usual one so I don't know if yeah it doesn't go endless but they have that and then there's the chain offer number two three four five yeah so so forth like taken from stuff like I think I think actually you had different different prices because you are Android could be could be I don't know because I also different one Euros more or higher prices on this chain offer they had the they had the gacha roll even here also running you you know what happened Stefan called me like hey let's
put all like the the smallest prices for yaku because he doesn't buy [ __ ] anyway yeah it could be uh there's also by the way this interesting event which is called Newland which seems like a server wide event either server wide or like game wide where like I don't understand to reach the new continent which basically means like get through the whole game and like they put them all onto like a racing list or something is this like CL of Clans like CL of Clans second whatever yeah has these mechanics I think that you you're competing like the like server first or whatever zero people have reached the new continent well yes no [ __ ] yeah and then uh I think that's oh yeah the last thing where the these kind of specific chest system is pretty much taken from Survivor I as you see that with the Collectibles uh this is just a much better system regarding The Collection thing whereas you have these chest you open them you get the special
currencies and the collectible items from it and there are uh right here where you can yeah by the way they have like very nice kind of shout outs to like a lot of ips like Dark Moon car this is from World of Warcraft then they have like Iron Throne from Game of Thrones and they have like yeah uh Sword in the Stone from arter and stuff like that so that's interesting but they work actually there's a statue of no no pay yakob as well yeah so they work in sets so you collect them and they give you set bonuses and then you need to upgrade them and they are pretty much like another bread and butter power progression layer so they have the basic effect which just give you main stats and then passive effect that also by the way can give you stuff outside of the power based progression which is like event gold gain plus 15% fed damage no AFK gains and stuff like that so they're really really rewarding to kind of collect and I guess pretty hard also to collect yeah let's see like half of yours yeah I have half of
yours uh collected yeah but uh yeah that's it pretty much like this is the power of their template that like they can straight out all the soft lunch create the game which has like 10 progression vectors immediately so the spend is like the limit deep deep as [ __ ] seriously yeah deep as [ __ ] and then they you know improved with all these other mechanics with everybody else that do work for them because they know they they work and like take them from like the games that are grossing so high so yeah like uh outstanding job I think this will be maybe the first time I'm going to hit 10 later in in the thing yeah let's see let's see like so like I think this is the only game that took 40 minutes for yakob to actually talk about and and he he didn't even show the the graphs that's the pink it didn't even show the graphs like you can you can you can hear that happen here but you can hear like the like positive
like me he's like me during the hexa sword episode exactly yes yes AB like a kid in a candy store exactly you know like take whatever works like you don't even need to work that much it's just like you're clever like very smart design that's it yeah uh yeah so let's go to the numbers um so this was actually released into soft lunch Friday August 30th and currently active users like what Revenue skyrocketed to something like uh 360 no no no that's [ __ ] that's you have only Google Play you have only Google Play yeah let me left up under the apps yeah here we go wrong graph sorry okay you were same you just need to click from Google Play to UniFi that's it whatever so November first 700k uh that's the number I was looking
for now jumping within like 530 or whatever numbers go up yeah downloads wise also giant because there's like 230k downloads a day exactly yes the biggest here is that this is no us traffic yet yet NS this is going to be their most profitable game ever like the highest revenue game yeah so we have the revenues here that are coming mainly from South Korea Thailand Japan Hong Kong so pretty much inside Asia lunch inside info why is this also doing doing so well in South Korea because there's a K-pop uh girl that loves capy baras and it's basically all over the place in South Korea oh really if you if you if you combine this Mega Trend exactly like now you kiss it's like that's like absolute killing moneymaking machine like seriously
seriously man this is this is the thing where I think it's making so much money that it's pretty much like a Social Casino RPG yeah think of it that's the thing B it isino RPG it is it is yes it is it is is RPG well Social Casino dressed as RPG that's it that's what it is no RPG there this no yeah social King is RPG you're right you're right you're right right yeah so it's like amazing it's literally the like as much money printer as you can put into it so how much how much money how much more money will this make in the US [Music] 5x I'm not Legend of Legend of Legend of mushroom it was like us was like third or fourth largest go by Revenue right it wasn't even the largest once we can double check it wasn't but still like that's that's going to be the main question and legend of mushroom I would say
perform is going to be probably number one for sure cuz they love this kind of stuff I don't know man it's like the Taiwan is really high really really high press countries Legend of mushroom as as it speak in March like 55 million a month yeah but just like everything yeah basically all all Japan or something yeah exactly us is not even in the top three 7.6 it's four keep in mind this is very asan this is super hard because the whole UI is just like clust fuckor like here it's you just press one [ __ ] button yeah but the UI is the inventory like the UI is the inventory in Legend of mushroom this is like no us friendly at Happ bar is very very polished nice and everything hobby template we know I think much more better estimate would be if we look at how did uh Survivor IO did in US yeah exactly let's maybe look at no that's not good comparison I don't I don't think that's
a good comparison this is so different from what they usually do man this is not I know I know just like want to see a comparison here so this is Survivor iio where us is 22 okay and archero is us is actually first but archero is but still you see if we just assume that it would be like 30% us on top okay but not going to make million end a day what like check check how much money Survivor iio made when it was launched fre meal a day one mil one and a half Peak was also uh also they had like 20% ad Revenue I think this is not this is not going to have 20 30% out Revenue no it's going be look like yeah so but still if this I
mean honestly I think it's going to make more money than that's what I want to say one most probably going to make more than arero and not more than survio but I really hope it's gonna just blow everybody's mind and yes and to take over the Survivor iio Rue this be the the new template everybody will copy like the Survivor exactly exactly watching the new template this is it it's such a super power like every time you release a game you have so much depth that you know works like but this is the thing man they've been doing this for 2019 it's same thing it's just perfected but you you know like this template doesn't really work on o nice but this this template doesn't really work with snaker Karan all of the other small games that kind of died afterwards no it works with them it's just that the core didn't push through that's the thing it works but yeah like okay fair
enough okay okay the core wasn't like good as all the other yes yes yes yes yes okay so we'll see by the way there's some super big anomaly with the active users graph I don't know what's happening it's just I didn't even use it for the out calculations because it's just a bit yeah looks broken broken yeah but the important information for you to know 22nd of November is the official launch of capik barago in the US if you go into pre page on Google iOS blah blah blah it's written there so in 20 days you're going to see yeah we'll revisit you know what what's going to happen in my opinion this is going to even grow until that happens and when the US comes it's going to be bigger than Survivor iio I I said I would gu both the same I'm I'm in the same boat 100% you can see it already this has even better numbers before even launching so yeah so let's
see let's see let's see let's see let's see so Mr Felix add oh wait wait we don't have any any types of retention numbers or anything but I would say this is super sticky it's going to have very long or very like very good long-term retention yeah uh Remo we calculated that it was what about seven ad placements uh it's like is not really known for having like a lot of AD placements they tend to only use rewarded ad placements yeah a lot of AD placements what Felix probably meant is like no ints no b no other sh exactly the the reward that like ideal videos okay okay okay you have the you have the classical ones in the store that pretty much HBY has all the time uh it's their store it's their it's their store basically it's even the same it's even the same color of the same chest like you can watch an ad two or three times depending on how progressed you are in the game and it's pretty much worth it
so you always come here so that means that every session probably has at least three rewarded ads coming just from the shop and then they have a bunch of rewarded ads sprinkled throughout the game play uh what can you say here yeah the classical gold one as well uh I think there's about seven Impressions that you can watch per session and they're on various little timers right so it's not very big so with the active user base right now like it's like 15% of the game's overall revenue and it's earning about probably 35k a day now and it has really high acpm so I really increased it because yeah it's making so much iip already so yeah and quite good GEOS so it's not like yeah any big ones but it's not going to be a big ad Revenue game I think I don't think it's ever going to be above 15 20% you calculated based on like how many on average rewarded videos you watch or how what's possible cap I basically took uh
seven rewarded Impressions per da and I assume 62% of users watch them watch that also also 15% out of 700 is not 35k it's 100K by the way just just saying just saying which is not that bad 35% is more like 5% uh 35k would be 5% no whatever but it's making 5 mil 5.6 mil a month already it's haven't been a single month yet so we don't know yeah exactly we don't know yet so I mean it's so early we we we're covering this so early we're gonna have to do this again that's to be hon I'm in I'm in the same boat here with Felix maybe because uh like to I'm there as well but 15% out of 700 okay let's let's leave it uh the big distinction between the old the gam then they Chang it in Paradigm as I said before no rewarded in the core this is
very very big difference all the other Hobby Games have rewarded in the core yeah yeah I think we we had the Survivor IO uh which was 50/50 now or closer to that 60 40 Arch was definitely somewhere there in the beginning Arch was like I think 40% uh and the Survivor I was like 38% out Revenue yeah yeah so okay this is probably going to be one of their lowest uh except for Souls I guess because that didn't have any ads in it at all so Souls Souls is a published game it's not their it's the game they're publishing keep in mind those publish yeah yeah I I think we need to revisit it once the US gets launched because this is such small numbers the active user base is really hard to work on but like i' say 15 20% think of it like these they have like extensive experience with rewarded ads and like I mean AD Med ads monetization to begin with maybe what they see is basically you know was the best for the game like exactly
it also reminds me what you said right like this is a Social Casino company hiding as an RPG right so what's the one main thing of all Social Casino is like if you have yeah no ads right because it's basically you don't want to have anything blocking the amazing monetization because it's just making so much money right so it's might be them being like yeah this is monetizing so well without ads so let's not include them in the core gameplay to distract people also what is interesting still and I didn't figure it out it yet why postponing the lounge of us that's the big question is it because of the elections now that's a very good idea really that's the best thing I didn't even think of that yeah exactly exactly I see I see the ads everywhere Twitter Facebook all basically everywhere and I'm not even US citizen so I mean that would you if you
were like the global no I I would postpone it as well okay but why are they postponing to the 22nd then that's on Black Friday that's going to be even more expensive you know you know why you know why because there's going to be Black Friday special offer and then they're going to [ __ ] nail it you're competing with you know completely different uh narrative it's also it's also not not elections which is basically buying all like hey okay how many Impressions do you want all of them this is the case this is the case all of them this is exactly the case Black Friday I think like increase prices and stuff it's not like you know we not going against Trump and Harris yeah Harris basically so yes it's different so that I mean that was my kind of thinking behind this but you never know but still okay are you ready for some creatives sure there's going to be a lot of hooks like a lot of what survival
style that's what I'm think hooks know but oh my God like I was [ __ ] happy when I was checking these creatives seriously happy happy or happy uh wait a second so guys the thing is when I'm uh sharing this from the deliver side app I can't mute the the screen so we going to hear all the [ __ ] sound you can I get my volume control ready yeah yeah yeah you get the volume so okay so that was uh that was the first so Asian Taste yes but honestly let's just go through all of this in in a second so here you see YouTube YouTube YouTube basically all YouTube so this is very different from all the other games that we've discussing no up loving to
this point no I repeat no uplo to this point I would assume that they're kind of even mediating with unity and iron Source or I have no idea what what [ __ ] is happening but no upla and I don't think actually upin is the I mean it's the strongest in us but they still have a lot of Korean and other inventory which they can run so which means that they will add app only after they launch in us I think so as well I think so and all the other channels I mean they still have like it's basically Facebook Google Tik Tok one video I can show you Twitter whatever and that's it and iros but it's also very small so it's mainly Google mainly mainly Google which in China very that's a good question oh here we have Unity okay so there's a there's a playable anyway look
so oh wow giant ice as usual oh M armies there we go o that's a nice Trend man they do everything we talk about honestly everything 50 exactly 50c videos every single Trend all of these Tik Tok Voice or like these AI voices and you have this the cloud P which you get for free by the way yeah if if you yeah if you play but this the my yeah this is great totally op yeah that's totally op here we have this Al gameplay basically altered game play this is what we saw before and look what we have here backpack Heroes see the back with Survivor I exactly exactly I mean this is again like these man G Chinese
gaming studios are just so hungry for winning like you don't see this in the west man like they're so on it you remember from soft launch man like it's not even it's not exactly look and you have also Mass battles right there you have all the trends it's 34 second video and then you have even like this like amazing end card dancing end card yeah the SK literally juggling with his head yes so then we have all the different like other stuff which is I'm not sure this is not the Peppa pck by the way I I watch a lot of yeah I watch a lot of Peppa Pigs now in here for some reason because of my daughter but still like again that's part of one that's part of but here do you do you recognize this person guys I don't think so no but I do
this is their yeah this is a guy they use in Survivor iio all the time with all these all these AI guy I don't think it's an AI guy it's just a guy that they use a lot they use go with like SAS visual look like you see it's okay so fake narut basically fake Naruto and this like this what that's what we discussed before you have the all the IPS that you can use which is kind of like the fake Pedro Pascal you have fake Naruto here you have all the mass battles you have the backpack Heroes TR you have [ __ ] everything it's completely fake Nar and then you have all these all this like the guy here as a as a hook they use it in in in Survivor iio as well it's the same thing here oh my God if I when I lucky code by the way oh I think oh you you are claiming that code by they have
sh of codes they're still Frey from the Cod but you know what you know what was interesting I was I was literally doing you and uh trying to get the codes and there wasn't the the website for claiming the codes wasn't ready when they soft launch it they built it in in like I think after one week of of the game Wasing yeah but they use it I even use it thing ah there was there we go there we go the c bar on the crocodile viral video it's the first pet by the way in the game the first Mount exact you get in the game is the crocodile and shot the Cy crocod this is it this is exactly it and you you saw this [ __ ] video frame million times they put it in the game it's the I mean how brilliant is this there's also all the other ones from the videos like the pelican they're all there all there all there
yeah the turtles everything is there everything is there that's like that's the thing even a unicorn who shits rainbow oh yeah oh my God I need that yes I need that so obviously so and also it's it's kind of like again like you know what we see yeah it's we are going to say again sorry well let me finish again we're going to see a lot of different games again just copy everything they see in here basically you know like this is like the the final basically you you you go to VJ mini games you get all the games creatives they working there and then you just ship it to West you just ship it to West the only thing we don't know is that we had well we well look how cool is the [ __ ] capy with sunglasses how cool is this yes exact
see they they take all of these but like majority of the gaming space they don't have the witchet inventory and like know the the first funnel of like and then they will just copy whatever these guys are doing I mean [Music] honestly it's like this is South Korean so there's like a TV host in the the cinema talking about screen yeah there's like a few different things which is like all the stages just just Cy bar going from from the stage Hammer there we go you know there's a that has D yes of course look signature fruit there we go Survivor IO Survivor iio you have the backpack stuff there you go it's like the backpack [ __ ] you know where we saw this and this is the only guys that they actually paying attention we are warriors we saw yeah they yeah they head
it in the creatives I was showing it in the creative uh Trends I think for September is there even like big rossing backpack Team game or just like a trend that everybody uses and nobody even Mak the game actually I think the the the backpack Heroes Trend game is not out yet there was the the the bacon Revenge yeah but it's not attempt but it's not doing anything at least for now yeah look look at this what reminds you this wait a second come on play what that a monk in a temple it's just so some South Korean drama creative exactly it's real short in South Korea it's basically real short in South Korea what he's hiding from like the guy is being scared in the temple from yeah yeah he's he's trying to give flowers to someone I guess and then
there's like people coming and now it's all suspense music everything oh my God I can't wait I honestly I have no idea what Happ the exactly find cap or what no he he finds people that are actually playing cap cap go really yes this is so South Korean it is and when wait for the and end Card wait for the end card I mean the whole suspense mus see everything yes he's going to the temple he's opening the door what's happening and there's a bunch of people on FL yes playing Cy go they're playing C they're playing man mobile ads mobile ads and this is all Facebook relig Temple or whatever it's all Facebook you know like there's capy with leak which is basically destroying everything there's Peppa Pig with uh
there's like what is what is like Peppa Pig by the way I'm I'm like child show child TV show yes Ted you know who is this also Ted from the the other series from Family Guy creators Family Guy the movie where like Bear whoar yes exactly again all the mass battles everything like numbers throwing like everywhere it's like this is like looks like exact yeah pretty much this is basically everything like honestly yeah there they go yeah like so there so so good Al good exactly altered gameplay because are warriors yeah like of kind of yes you the think this is like you can't really show the game play I mean honestly if you show the game playay quite boring to like sh the ads yeah
it's like it's like there's nothing happening here you need to use this they nail down very very good power fantasy in the creatives you can see it like it's always you know improving going stronger against stronger enemies you know what what is this hey look this Hero Wars but this the lady in Hero Wars is just like the the vampire over there there's like the the different light just spits into mouths of the Hero Wars and here's just like it's slightly object like the characters in The que getting K one by exactly that's exactly okay so but yeah the power fantasy here it's it's super strong so honestly [Music] I'm also also the music do the canar guys here's a question I have for you guys so in the next like in 2025 uh who do you think will have a higher Revenue supercell or
HBY supercell man like super cell Super Cell man it's it's not the question yet what we're talking about is like moving forward it's not about like being because keep in mind all these games are basically hybrid casual still they're not on a scale as like Clash of Clans or not there yet cuz if I understand correctly HBY is not a big team no yeah I don't think so it's a small team it's just their efficiency and like how they build stuff is very very critical oh here we go Zuma and actually with the Frog now with the Frog now yeah that's the the original Zuma but we are dancing here man dancing I was I was I was watching this like in soft lounge and I was like what the [ __ ] is happening like it was even better it was literally even better we can yeah we can we can check that actually it was in September I think I was I was just watching all of these yeah like Facebook only and where are all Jesus
Christ like this is just so good all of these I can't like backpack there you know it's like almost like CB Heroes yeah this is like little bit closer to C hero C Heroes like oh my God what is going on yeah I have no idea what's going on but it's uh it's working so well all of this all all of this is doing so well anyway that's like Snow White yes we can do the yeah we can do scores this was super super long are you going to give your first 10 super good yeah I think I'm G 10 give 10 Man 10 out of 10 for me as well on the US like seriously what tell me which one thing like what what's better social features they have them yeah they have like giant spand that from the GetGo they took like
everything that worked from everybody else they improve their own pipeline they pretty much single-handedly created a new genre called Soha Casino RPG that nobody knows about because it's like hidden so well even though he's blatantly using all the other social Casino mechanics and he's there and he's making [ __ ] ton of money without even being globally released yeah easy easy and on that bombshell yeah I think yeah uh if you have any other comments in regards to Cy B go also by by the way like very big thanks to yesper he is also like playing this game for a long time much longer than me definitely much longer than than yeah than us he loves it we loves it we love it as well and uh anyway thank you very much for listening please share uh your comments under the video share this cyas and copy especially yeah especially k b us one very important teaser as always as I kind of like to do there's a game that's
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