Puzzle Monthly #5: The Secret Behind Toon Blast's Success

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You have Laura Toranto. I love puzzle games, formerly a king. That's why I'm here. And now I work on Minecraft.
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David Nelson. I play more casual games than anybody on the planet for no particular reason and well because I like them. Anim poker pro and a puzzle enthusiast.
Nice. So today's episode is going to be a blast from the past but that is still relevant in today's market. We're going to talk about tomb blast and how the hell are they able to still stay relevant in a market where every other blast title is just, you know, losing their revenue, their install basically becoming irrelevant. Before we do this, can we just mention that it was like a

question, wasn't it? Yes Al.
Hi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was like asking the select channel by Yesper Alen. Sorry if I butchered your name or surname to be honest. Uh what he asked was like how the was Tomblas able to like grow it with Arpto in the last few years. and he want to understand were there any specific points in time where Tombulas was implementing certain changes that helped the game become much bigger than it is then actually to give that like brief intro and maybe a richer history about the whole blast sub genre. I think we have much better people to talk about it in the podcast today. So I think Dave can take us through the blast history and how the space was like evolving and how po came to be and tomb blast kind of topple that. So Dave, take it away.
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who likes math equations with proper answers, they like these kind of games. There's a correct answer. It's not a luck box. And so the problem with it is it ends up not being casual enough. So a lot of people don't enjoy it. We saw a really wonderful curve that's one of the rarest things to see in games. So usually what happens if you look at like the amount of people that succeed on the first round like so you get this like curve of like this amount of people succeed and then like slowly and then it moves down to 100% of the people succeeding. What you saw with ped rescue is it was lower and went up for a little bit because it took you a couple rounds to figure out what the correct answer was and then once you figured it out you could solve it. But that meant the game was built around this friction. As a sidebar, that used to be considered very bad in puzzle. Now there are a bunch of puzzle games like the solitary associations which to me work just like Pet Rescue. They're hard as [ __ ] You have to play it three times. Block Jam is also hard as [ __ ] You have to play it multiple times to figure out the

answer. Those are things that we consider bad back then with Pet Rescue. We're trying to solve them. When the Blast games came out, they took a whole bunch of stuff. Toy Blast basically took Clicker Match 2 and made it more like Candy Crush. the way the board was structured, the entire feel of it, it felt like there was a lot more luck and a lot more fun involved and not as much strategy and that was huge. toy took off, did really well. And then pretty soon after that, we were running experiments inside of King also at this time, but I mean there was everyone had saga maps back then. That was like the thing. You couldn't launch a game without a saga map. And they ripped the saga map out of or I mean made to blast without a saga map. And that game took off completely focused on gameplay and good events. And I think it did double the revenue that Toy Blast did.
I'd forgotten that about Pet Rescue. And it was the same with Diamond Digger, right? Like every level you were rescuing the pets, you had to get them from the top down to the bottom.
Yep.
And so the variation in the level was

like the shape of the board that you had. Yeah. Completely different to what Tomb Blast is like now where you basically got pretty much always a square board and it's just a bunch of blockers and can you blow all the stuff up before you run out of moves, which most of the time you can. Like there's no like mental strategy required at all really. It's like, are you paying attention more than 5%. [laughter]
Yeah, but I mean, it's more fun. It's more dynamic and it is less puzzly. I do. I mean, there's a couple games that I've been into where you you pretty much fail every two or three times before you figure out how to how to win. And some of them, I'm pretty sure, are even engineered that way, which is really very interesting.
Are you thinking of sheep and sheep?
No. Did you ever play that game?
No. Sheep and sheep. No. That's amazing. I want to look that up. I don't know. I don't know that.
So, when I was still working at Big Fish, looking at new game development, and it's not a clicker and not a blast game, but we were looking at tile match. So, these are the tile busters category.

There was one game called Sheep and Sheep. It had three levels if I remember correctly. And the third level was virtually impossible. You were expected to fail. And if you remember how if you think about how Maong works, the tiles are stacked. So, the order in which you pick them up can be increasingly important, but you can't control the order in which they're fall they've fallen, right? So you pick up the wrong tile, you fill up your board and you fill up your trout and then you're stuck and then you basically lose the level. So that yes, I was thinking of that was one of the hardest games I ever played with an but the way it was designed was an intended fail rate for the third level. [laughter]
Older game.
It's awesome. Yeah, I mean
so what you're saying Dave is like before toy blast and tomb blast came onto the scene the blast market basically was too much deterministic almost to the point where like you said how color block gem and most of the association sold association games are like today and toy blast and tomblast sort of randomized it or made like luck a key part of the core gameplay experience. Basically, they just took a

match three game and instead of playing match three, you had the clicker in it, which meant that you could keep the blockers and the boosters. You kept a solid screen instead of these scrolling levels. Both Diamond Digger and Pet Rescue were scrolling levels. You know, you play it all the way down.
And sometimes you'd make a decision early on that messes it up. So, some block falls off or something goes wrong way and then when you hit the bottom, you can't even finish it because the way the puzzle ends. It's a very different design. instantly better. Clear in retention early and mid obviously better.
Let's go back in time in our time machine. If you had taken Pet Rescue Saga and made those two changes, so you made it easier like Tomb Blast and you removed the saga, do you think it would have had a chance to see the success today that Tomblast is seeing?
I mean, it would have been like four times the size of it. Um that's because uh at the time um people were playing Candy Crush and then bouncing around all the other King games and the audience was just bigger and there was no other competition. So it would have been you know 10x the size of the blast games but

just because there was I don't know a tenth of the competition you know.
Yeah.
And the audience was massive already.
And then Toy Blast came out when was that? 2015ish.
14 15. Yeah. Toy Blast was October 2014 was the soft launch and then hard launched in 2015. And Pet Rescue Saga for context had already been out since 2012. So about 3 years.
So like we're we're going to talk about the more kind of like nuanced differentiations that Tomblast had more like closer to current time. But since Toy Blast and Tomb Blast introduced that more, you know, let's say fun experience with a blast game and like they established it basically in 2014 2015 with Toy Blast. Do you think there's a like a specific or there are a set of reasons that no other team was able to replicate what Toy Blast and Tomb Blast has done so far? if the core game play was like so obvious and it has been on

the market for more than a decade because tomb blast is by far the best blast game right now. Toy blast is by a large margin is the second one and the third one is away from Toy Blast. So like do you think there are certain reasons why any other team wasn't able to replicate that?
These games are like maybe like 2 billion and 1 billion each. So, it's like $3 billion, which is pretty good. But, I mean, it's not like Coin Master is what I mean is Coin Master at 10, Garden Scapes, Homescapes, Candy Crush. I mean, these games are all probably over 10 billion. So, I mean, the the the market opportunity if you're a team thinking who should we go after, it's also maybe one of the brilliance of the Blast games. They didn't go like headon against a match three and try to take down the Max 3. They picked like the third best, you know, like the clicker. I mean, at that time it was maybe like match three and then bubble, right? Bubble shooters were probably considered number two and then clickers like I mean so so it was like going after the third

and doing it much better. You created a great business.
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and Panda Pop, right? So what did they have? They had the match. Nice job, Laura. Geez. Go to the tank. Go to the tank. Um, they went after match three and bubble shooters, you know. I mean, the real question maybe we should be asking our wonderful audience is why isn't anybody going after revolutionizing bubble shooters? Where'd that go? That was a big market, you know.
Going after the clickers was like a humble like I think nobody was even scared of it. It was like ah clickers no market. It's not going to really matter much. You know, it way overperformed, but most people didn't even think it was going to do that well. And I think most people think that like I mean it's only now I think I think we're in a renaissance of puzzle games. There's all sorts of interesting puzzle games coming out and way more innovation and way more trying new things which is a lot of fun and you know not all this like everybody piling in thinking that they're the next match three geniuses. In retrospect you can look at it and be like kind of

relatively it's not as big as other genre but like at the time we were kicking out everybody was kicking out games. It still happens now like left, right, and center. And it just so like looking back from this perspective, you can see that Toy Blast did become a thing, not a massive thing, but Tomb Blast actually is like a decent business. That's the kind of evolution of what happened. Toy Blast could have been nothing. Do you know what I mean?
We also know that the teams that made those games were like, you know, unbelievably high quality teams. So, yes, you know,
well, you're alluding to where they went next. to move to Tomb Blast then because that's the meat, right? That's the interesting bit.
For those watching, you can see how we think in all of our notes that go to these episodes [laughter]
based on the charts. Tomb Blast had a relatively stable performance up until the end of 2023. Starting from the end of 2023, beginning of 2024, the game had

certain periods of time where it jumped 2x or tripled its revenue and became bigger and bigger and bigger in a market where if you look at the rest of the blast sub genre, all the other games fell down of a cliff except maybe toy blast which kind of like flattened uh after that point. So Tomb Blast was just on its own league and the rest of the blast space or market didn't even actually exist if you removed tomb blast from it. And the first kind of like that big jump that you can see on that chart on the like the third quarter if you see to the right is the time where Tomblas adapted the super light bulb from Royal Match which I think has become a very hot topic when it was first launched within Royal Match and like but it was adapted right now you can basically see different adaptations of it in many different like puzzle games match three or blast or any other kind of like even

other sub genres and other mechanism. And basically what Super Light Ball does is the special item that you create in match three by matching five items and in blast games I think nine items if I'm not wrong. That special item which clears a single color of the board is basically doubled. So once you unlock that super light bulb after a certain kind of like wind centric point which is 10 minutes in most games you start having that special item double its effect. So it clears like twice the colors from the board or if you combine it with different special items it just like doubles the effects of those special items as well. And that was first launched in Royal Match in the summer of 2023 if I'm not wrong. And like everybody was able to see that huge like jump in revenue in royal match. And Tomblas was the fastest game that was

able to adapt it. Like they took just like 3 months to adapt and put it inside the game. Like if you look at for example Candy Crash Saga, they still have a very very very light version of Super Light Ball. Like they have this like temporary version of it. You can use it only once every like four levels. That type of a thing. I want to say also brave for them to be that quick to adapt the super light bulb into the game because it was probably not possible for them to cover every kind of like edge case every possibility or like make sure the level funnel was not going to be affected at all with the implementation but they just took three months to adapt it and it became the first kind of like major bump in tomblast's history as as you can see. I don't know. Does anyone have any kind of like personal experience with the Super Light Ball either like that they worked on or based on like your experience playing these games that you talk?
Well, I was going to say it's like quite an interesting it's echo of the history

actually of the game, isn't it? Because Super Lightall is obviously royal match feature and actually it was the Royal Match team that kind of was responsible for the first like the initial part of the game, wasn't it? Is that right? The dream guys built Tomb Blast and then went off to do Dream. It's interesting that the kind of game like a bunch of stuff happened in between them which we could talk about where the game started to drop off and then the remaining team or the evolved team have kind of like picked up this feature from the original people that built the game in the first place and it's created this like wow just what an uplift that must have been so satisfying to be on that team. Dave was talking about like making the bullet games more like fun and like not that mathematical or not that static. This super light bulb of course its effect in like match three games is definitely huge and you can feel its impact on the

core gameplay experience. But I think for a blast game its impact was even more like pronounced because like you had a more static gameplay experience compared to the match three game. And now with the super light bulb like you you can see it just becomes a like a different type of beast that always gives you something that visual feedback and also the game play wise feedback was also quite important I think especially from a mechanics perspective although tomblast as they mentioned is not too like mechanical or too strategic dependent with the super light bulb the core players I assume actually became more kind of like attached to the game because if you were able to combine two super light balls together, now you were able to clean the whole board twice, which is way more important in a blast game compared to a match three game. It is very important for you to have that boardwide impact in a blast game. So I

think although Super Light Ball was created or born in a match three game, its impact in a blast game from a mechanical perspective is much more pronounced based on my own experience.
Like you guys already talked about, you've got like this coming out pretty quick after Pet Rescue is out. You know, obviously does a lot better. If we take a look at downloads, it's also pretty interesting. the good oldfashioned hard launch like really push it's just classic if you look at the overall I mean the the installs are not that far away from each other but you know revenue is double which is very interesting so yeah not not too big a difference in the install base what is it you know 20 20% more or something but 2x the revenue even though launched later pretty cool and I mean you can also see that this jump is not downloads cost.
The other thing you could think is maybe like ARP's going up cuz active users are

dropping.
And I mean this makes it even more impressive. I think if you think of that peak revenue for tune was here and now we're reaching those peak revenues with these numbers which is pretty incredible. I mean you can only imagine how big the game would have been if they'd added if they'd had it here, right?
And we'll take a look at that revenue. Don't forget home. So here is the big this is where the big downloads and active users is and here there's hardly nowhere near as many and yet you still have to jump. One fun thing I think is if you take a look at this revenue curve here and then we look at ARP Dow you see that the ARPA is actually climbing for both of them. This is an incredible change right let's make it a little bit easier and just look at us. It's hard when you're looking at a bunch of markets because ARPD can get kind of messy, but here you've got like, you know, 38 cent arpow, 17 cent arpow, you know, and then this huge jump up to

wow,
you know, somewhere in the 2 to3 range,
which I mean
a 10x of the ordal 10x. Well, this is Yes question, isn't it? And what I hadn't realized is is actually that it was pretty flat for the first kind of what's that five six years of the game and it's only over the past kind of third of its life where it's really taken off. It's like post the super light bulb phase, right?
And I mean just so that we uh get a clean look at it, we're looking at US. Let's split by devices. This is iOS only and you still see it and Android only and you still see it. So, the jump is there. Either way, I don't know what this little dip is. Who knows what? It's very volatile. Not like a huge user base or whatever, but
that jump on Android for Toy Blast is interesting.
The numbers aren't huge, right? The

amount of users isn't huge. And like, you know, how are we getting the data? I mean, we're talking about
that tiny.
The signal is correct. Like, the jump is real. The jump is big. Is it exactly shaped the way it was there? Ah, probably not. It goes up from something like 30 cents to $3. I mean, it is really incredible. 3x a 3x jump and and here's the the big question then after all that. Is it just engagement driven? So, is the Super Bowl super light bulb so powerful that you just want to keep playing and you don't want to lose and lose it so you're willing to pay? Is it driving like convert? We can't see any of this.
I mean, are people that never paid before willing to pay now because they don't want to lose the super light bulb?
Well,
most likely I'd say that people that already paid or willing to pay even more often [clears throat] to make sure they don't lose it.
Yeah. And they kind of like supported like super light bulb was kind of the

first thing in that journey and that they supported it with a more robust and I want to say modern live ops cadence as well like after light ball came the collection meta which
I'm not sure like I don't know whom we can attribute the collection meta to. There are a couple of social casino games that like I know were run it but still they also adapted the collection meta in their own structure and that also helped them kind of like have another jump in their journey and I think it's more of a like a case of yeah you have the super light bulb which increases the stakes and like if you lose a level and now you lose like more than you you would before and now you just increase those stakes like you collection meta, you add like different progression based offers on top of the current like structure current offers and now that whole like increase stakes just like gets bigger and bigger like

they just compound. I think that's kind of the reason they continued growing so well even after like the initial phase of super lightful adaptation
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We found this interesting quote from the CEO around the time of Super Light Ball where he said that gross bookings had almost doubled and the main change was increasing the number of tests that we run and a relentless focus on gameplay. It almost feels like there's kind of a couple of phases of life of the game. in the kind of initial one where it really takes off. It's being built by the dream guys. They're like high class operators and they build this great game which kind of comes from nothing to steal what like twothirds of the market something like that
and then it kind of drops off and then they've got this second phase where it's game play experimentation testing live ops collections and that's the real kind of uplift that Yesper was calling out happened
just like a throwback to Esper Clash Royale is like you know operating at a much lower arc and Tomb Blast and Toy Blast and like, "Hey, maybe you want to try to figure out how to get Super Light Ball into Clash Royale." Yes, player.

You need you need Super Light Ball in every game.
I can write some notes for you. I'm pretty deep in Clash Royale myself.
That's why you picked it. I was like, "What a weird one to throw into this mix, but now it makes perfect sense." [laughter]
Of course, as as soon as we changed to revenue instead of Orpow, then the everything looks very different, you know. Mhm.
But I mean it's it's still I mean on that user base absolutely incredible right this is we're looking at iOS only but like absolutely incredible that on this small user base driving that kind of revenue that it's it's still on the chart you know.
Yeah I think like what Tom mentioned with the quote from American and like continuous testing and like improving the existing features. Okay. Okay, with the super light ball, you just like adapt it because royal match basically like one shoted the whole feature. You just like adapt it and move on. But for example, tomb blast has a whole like wild journey feature where on based on

your progression, you get wild cards that you can use in your own collection and you can kind of finish certain sets within that collection which adds a whole like separate progression layer on top of the already the kind of like rich progression layers that you have. And it actually doesn't exist in many other games. It's more like an original thing that they found on their own. I don't know which one came out first, but Gossip Harbor has the same thing. Um, and and Gossip Harbor's Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, their card structure is awesome. I mean, basically, you get all the way to the end of it. Not that I've grinded Gossip Harbor all the way to the end of a card.
I have I've completed a full collection in Gossip Harbor, and they did not have wild cards when I did. And let me tell you, I was playing every day, multiple sessions per day.
That is hard work. That That is hard work.
Yes. This is They did not have wild cards at that point.
Yeah. So now it's like locked. The last the last three cards you basically can't get them. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get them except as wild cards and they're all at the end of

things. Like there's one frozen at the end of
I mean if I show this I'm going to have to admit a bunch of things publicly which is very uncomfortable [laughter] but I'm willing to take a hit for the hit for the team. I may or may not be spending um money inside of Gossip Harbor.
I'd spent probably about $200 $250 in Gossip Harbor. [laughter] Not that much but enough. I mean, so I mean, right now there's a wild card locked behind
purchases. I need to make a purchase every day for 5 days
to get the wild card.
Nice.
I mean, it's just and it's so well done. I mean, instead of feeling like screwed, you feel like that's such an opportunity. I get all this stuff. So good.
Gossip Harper purchases always felt really good, despite the fact that I burned through a lot of what I purchased very quickly. For some reason, you just feel like you're getting a ton of stuff. Anyway, we're getting off track. That's my hope.
No, but I mean, I think I do think that's interesting. Maybe maybe they started the wild card thing and then it and then I moved over there. I'm not

sure who uh
who had it in first. I mean,
yeah, I've been going through my own screenshots and I found from October 4, 2025, that wild journey feature from Tomblast. So like they basically give you this like progression based feature where you finish like certain goals and you get card packs and then they promise you that wild card at the end of that. I think
it would be very interesting to see what the difference is between the events and the uh you know what's driving what.
Yeah, this this one is not purchase based but Tumblr also has a had a purchase based wild card offer.
Look at that show show that screen again. So, for those listening, we're holding up our phones comparing. [laughter]
This is the the um an event screen. Same exact thing. It's all earned with rewards on it.
Mhm.
It's not for the wild card, but the exact same structure for the event.
Yeah. The one in Tomb Blast is based on card packs, not wild cards, but card packs for the collection. And the last

reward is the wild card itself. So, like you go through, that's getting card packs for your collection. And the last one is just similar to the what thing that you mentioned in ghost fiber is a wild card that you can use later.
If we had to decide which how much the uplift goes towards super light bulb and how much of it goes towards the improved events. It might be one/ird super light bulb and the rest events. You know
I mean if you told me that you were going to pull the events I'd say you probably lose more than if you pull super light bulb.
H Yeah. As a like as a total that I I could agree with that. Yeah. Yeah, like because the events kind of stack on top of each other and they compound better because Super Light Pool is a single feature and like I said it's very optimized. There is not much you can do about it.
Yeah.
Also with the like experiments and like improvement and different kind of like tests that they are doing. Tombast if I'm not mistaken is the first like major casual puzzle game that introduced a

three tier season pass. Like at least I'm living in Germany and I downloaded the game much like in the past so I'm not a new user and I got the three tier season pass last March so it's been like about 4 months.
Does Germany not have the latest internet? Is that why you have the old version of the game? Did you [laughter] sure?
So like I'm not a I'm not a new user but I got this three tiered like season pass offer which okay it exists in almost every arch hero game or many of the midcore games but they are trying things both gameplay wise and both like offer wise feature wise on the like more like meta layer type of stuff. So that's the reason the install base is quite low and like they they cannot really improve their install base. But what you can do for your existing users which is your bread and butter most of your revenue comes from them. You can offer them new

things, new progression layers, new ways to interact with the game so that like they stay longer, they pay more and like they engage in a more kind of like concentrated matter, right? Matter. I think Tomblast is a great example of like you don't you don't have to be bound by the limitations of your own market. You can always kind of like improve optimize the facilities that you have on your own.
This is a great moment to share some geeky stuff that I did with AppMagic. So AppMagic got this thing where it lists out all the live ops and events that a game has introduced and the data kind of don't know seems a bit weird. pre September 20 24. But what I've found which is quite interesting is at the bottom we've got the chart here which the blue one is the revenue which we've been looking at and the red line is arow which we see is growing. So these guys here have been about for ages.

These live here I think probably have been about for like longer than this. But there's some weird quirk in the data around this point. What's interesting is that there was a big around this increase here in revenue. There was a shift from having these events here which were all one day only. So rocket Monday, activate as many rockets you can on a Monday, first time Tuesday, pass as many levels as you can first time on a Tuesday, blah blah blah blah blah. So they're all quite like basically the same mechanic and they're all limited for one day. sets like seven live ops, one goal effectively. It kind of like ladders up to one thing. They turned them all off around the end of the summer 2025 and started rolling out stuff which is much more akin to the stuff that you would find in Royal Match like Temple Guardians I think is the the kind of minor game thing where you kind of like the pickaxes and stuff. There's

Wild Journey that we talked about collections weekly contest is a weekly contest which are obviously like in number there's about the same six but actually because they extend for longer they're like 2 3 4 5 6 days each that creates all these kind of overlapping more interesting experiences where you've got like exponentially increasing amount of kind of goals rather than just one each day. quite interesting. I thought
in that event list there is a small shout out to the hybrid casual puzzle market the cannon fest event that has been right now just like being cloned in by every other puzzle developer right now. So not only they blast not only they are able to improve like show what you can do in the blast space but they also kind of became an inspiration for a hybrid casual puzzle hit that is becoming kind of cloned everywhere around the globe right now. I'm sure they didn't mean it to become its own

trend with separate titles and all but in their own kind of experimentations they seem to have found what clicks for puzzle users even through their events mini games.
Yeah. Should we wrap up by saying what we think about Tomb Blast's future? Basically, do you think this is like more or less what their pitch is going to be or do you think they still have what it takes to like compete against Royal Match and the rest of the like luckier puzzle markets?
I think this is a Zingga question. There's somebody inside of the peak team running around with a chart that says, "Our assass would be incredible. Can we just 10x 10x spend and you'd get this much back?" and it rolls all the way up to management and somebody there shrugs and then it rolls back down and someday that person might get all the way up to somebody who's going to be able to give them more budget and maybe they extend it. These numbers look great. Like if I was running this then I'd love to look at rorowass numbers and see if you could

push it. So I think it's management that's going to have to make a call or somebody buys the game back out of them and then goes for it. [laughter]
True. I think like the whole point with Tomblast is please don't be lured by the success of Tomblast. Don't try to make a blast game. Please like there have been so many so many like experiments in the blast space in the last like few years that I sadly watched like from the outside and like they all died on the vine. So please just like let Tomblust just run its own course and just focus on other focus on other sub genres. There are many other mechanics on the market Obi-Wan Kenobi thing. What are you building? [laughter] What are you building right now? That's what I want to know. Look here. Nothing to look [laughter] at.
Come on.
You just created like 10 blast teams from that speech like right now.
Maybe that maybe that was the point. You never know.
[laughter]

That's great.
All right.
Yeah. Cool. All right. Thanks everyone.
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