so even though being 10 cent and having Age of Empire's IP having the lunch week or lunch month will give you on the seventh place into overall Forex lead but you know why it's because you see if when you see the creatives you will see you will see the difference between last war white out survival and Age of Empires mobile they're playing The Nostalgia card Nostalgia card only they I think expensive High cpis yes and I think it's just a matter of time I think like this is the first days until they switch to actually the The Playbook of white survival and this is a no [ __ ] gaming show where we talk about games and their revenue in great detail powered by our ad monetization game design and user acquisition Triple Threat expertise welcome to the two and a half Gamers the unfiltered truth served with a side of giggles
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that's to yeah because we are covering Age of Empires which was a childhood I played I to say and four and I was excited to see on mobile until I saw him I wasn't I mean I wasn't excited those did you Godfather meme where like look how they butched my childhood yeah yeah basically but I wanted to say like I guess 90% of listeners actually played or maybe 80% of the listeners actually played this game when they were young and also I I want to give like huge kudos to yakob because he is actually doing like God's work for like playing all those games and that we um we usually review and I'm usually [ __ ] and on him and making fun of him but he is actually the hardworking guy on on this podcast I'm the Mastermind The
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yeah see some marketing genius is like what if we took Age of Empires and gave it to the Chinese because they are great at Forex doesn't matter no no it's the other way you give Chinese an IP and Forex comes out exactly yeah that's what that's what happens nothing the same which happened with red alert like again they got red alert Forex came out yeah that's that's the thing uh anyway so for those that think that Age of Empires did some mobile Port no they didn't uh it's like as pure as Forex as it can get so let let's just start a little bit through game plan and then we can like kind of a go into our usual you are very polished yeah looks this looks exactly like like Age of Empires oh my God such EMP my childh
yeah exactly let me go a little bit on the timeline like so if you start the game actually what happens here is that there's this uh there's by the way this like super giant cinematic and everything and like looks I was waiting for Gandalf to appear on the on the hill yeah literally like that and there's like a some kind of a story or whatever uh but it still looks like you're still hooked yeah yeah and you're waiting for the like Age of Empire's experience so a strategy game because age of AR is real time strategy RTS so you get here there's the Josephine character whatever someone got killed holy sword blah blah blah there we go and then when you start question question question as a as a person who's fought with armor are you able to run and keep speed with a horse no man this was the worst beginning like people in arm running after girl on a horse and they can keep up sorry this is historical
accuracy zero I wanna whoever is teaching them cardio I want him to teach me cardio because that is impr and you know what like on top of it that they're running this guy is carrying a great X that is bigger than his body in one in one hand in one hand in one hand do you even LIF bro oh yeah whatever let's move on okay so so what happens here wait wait no no no like I I think it this is just like a huge Jackman gym gym program from the latest dead Forex gym program so so what happens here like let's start the count because this is literally like the first of their kind of mini games they have here where it seems like Age of Empires so literally you selecting units clicking on them and clicking on the ground like you would in the Age of Empires game so from the get-go this kind of starts to masquerade itself as a real as real time strategy game but it's not it's just we all know
the key to a good Forex is just lying so yeah exactly users so you cannot show the Forex as kind of a yet never ever so there's some more cinematics guy dies of course emotional attachment blah blah blah there we go can we can we pause can we pause can we pause yob you should in in next life or in the previous life you were a narrator Absolut like oh did this guy [ __ ] this is hilar it's actually rumored that yakob did the voice for the priest in Age of Empires one no no I did I was always like w [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah so there's some guy by the way there's even like a choice event here somewhere down the line where you capture the enemy commander and you can like spare him or eliminate him so yeah it's kind of very very nicely down the beginning oh I didn't forgive him I cut his head off of course I mean I seen this show on real yeah he run away okay
no no worries anyway so as we move forward she goes with some what speech blah blah blah blah blah blah and then suddenly like few more Villages or whatever like some of this kind of a mini game until you literally start to kind of like build up the city like you would in Age of Empires like build this build that build that whatever and somewhere down the line like I think we're at 9th 10th minute yeah you're literally placing the building now at some point and yeah and then comes like here comes the hospital second no no no not the hospital switches this kind of Auto chess battle that again fight itself with like auto play so that's the second mini game uh and after you win it there comes oh yeah you you get janov AR which is scripted and afterwards you fight a little bit more of these and uh then comes the part where
yeah she has like one more speech blah blah blah and then you actually need to yeah and here we go 16 minute you need to choose your civilization which in the end like that's complete disregard for your previous progress because does a matter was from from Egypt everyone knows that yeah John you know byzantines I have Chinese civilization so why not because they have the biggest advantages in the beginning as I read so as as you and and yeah and then then where you pretty much move from there like you go to the typical bread and butter so click here click there click on Direct notifications and follow the button and and like the whole way out of the city suddenly is completely changing there's still some kind of a like it should look like Age of Empire so there's these like units going around and like pretending that like yeah we're not the Forex game whatever and going around like in in these other places like like place this lumber mill only in this area but can really yeah place it anywhere else
whatever and uh yeah the city is pretty expans regarding the Forex layout like looks a little bit of like Age of Empire is but still it's a Forex so yeah we're pretty much on the Forex pad now and it's a Forex I think it's like 10 more minutes or 15 more minutes where we get the explore Quest and then we're back to our old map thing and transition when you saw the the map I played until the map and then I'm like okay yeah this is the map I'm done here thank you very much yeah but this is this is not the right way you need to play a little bit more because this thing has more more punch that it like looks place that's what I it's not absolute typical Forex before last war or or white don't it's a little bit advaned a bit different this is this is the little big difference that they don't really stay on this path of like hyper casual game Forex hyper casual game Forex because they pretty much the scripted beginning of the like we're pretending we're realtime
strategy I think never returned ever like this kind of mini game was just for that like first 10 minutes I never ever had some addition was a Min game I think it was just tutoral just a tutorial I guess yeah yeah probably just script a tutorial uh but then what comes later uh the third mini game actually because we have the oh yeah we cover it later but let's say there's this fishing mini game actually don't know if you saw it you both get to this man I missed this completely so you're actually trying to catch fish with these throws on different distances and you need to aim it very very carefully otherwise you see you won't be able to make it so they have this kind of forth this is the third mini game and uh it's pretty intense actually you I'm waiting for a fence in the river honly you actually compete with your guild
mates on the scores on this so they have it honestly I wouldn't be surprised like I'm defense was a joke but sea of Conquest did it as well uh with fish uh we had idle fish and it's like it's it's a creative Trend you know we discussed it before I wouldn't be surprised like this is like all their mini games I think they're not well I not I think I saw they're not using it yet but it's a buildup for for the latest stage when they can't rely on this Nostalgia thing in the creatives anymore and then they start they start running UA creatives with the mini games they have in there like that's my yeah that's guess also they haven't fully forced there like U yet no no no no no it's too too early too early for that so does mini game is still like a valid res resource or let's say vared source of like one of the game resources which is meat so it's not really like for fun you actually need to play or at least spend
the points uh and then later down the line as you're progressing and I guess you'll get more to the layers that they have there and like some some different ones but this is the unique card so at some point it sends you on this Expedition and there are two Expeditions one is Island tactics and the other one is Battlefield Survivor Island tactics is the one that you see in the game playay it's the one where you have pretty much Auto chess so you go through this is basically a saga because it's always like two islands before you you go there and uh you get some kind of a battlefield um preparation that again this is basically Auto chess like nothing else so you set up your guys where they should kind of go and who sh they should attack then you press the battle button it's all automatic I for instance here increase the game speed to three times so we don't need to wait forever but yeah that's it and it's your typical kind of a progression the more stronger Your Heroes are the more you kind of get more on the Saga and the more rewards you get so again one other kind of a Min side game on on top of the
the ones that you have there you can even press this Auto challenge thing and if if you if I press it it would automatically sells the next level automatically play Battle and go on until it would lose once so yeah very very nice and the other thing and this is the real kicker is the Ford mini game yes which is actually specialized With Your Heroes because lo and behold these guys actually included the whole vampire survivors game into their game and I'm not kidding it's literally all vampire survivors not Survivor this game it must be like there a couple of gigs I think yeah yeah so if we go here um yeah it's vampire survivors it's no Survivor IO because the some of the mechanics from the core are Empire surviv so what you have here is that you need to uh select the hero only some of the heroes have like a secondary skill stat that can be selected for this mire survivors mode
and then you have literally objectives and again pretty good loot so it's not really that kind of a you want to play yeah you want to play play for sure so and this again completely changes the whole control because now I need to control my hero as you see typically as you would can guess with the our survivors game mobs are coming from you from all the directions I guarante I guarantee there are going to be blades and swort Crees in this [ __ ] Min game in their creatives in three months everywhere everywhere Felix I'm not sure what you are doing with your keyboard but please can you just [ __ ] stop I mean seriously being so angry being in America has made you so angry come back to your yeah might so what what's happening here like we're again selecting one of the three skills as we go getting more and more see there's the
the crowd of monsters that RS the map from time to time that's from Vampire survivors uh Heroes of Heroes versus hordes and all other yeah was in Survivor IO as well come on um I would say vampire have it first but yeah of course yeah you never know with these things exactly the skills even have like uh prequisite so you see that I'm already selected like fourth level of the skill which kind of makes it grow stronger and stronger as you follow like one specific skill then you would have some other skills let's say increase movement definitely that's what we wanted then comes the mini ball sciss it at you which just takes some time to kind of get down so at some point I think around second minute this going to be pretty intense actually it's not that like oh it's easy like select the M between look it looks exactly like Diablo 2 second act kind of kind of resembles the second I can yeah I can see it now yeah also yob you remember all of these even with
total battle with score Warrior like these mini games or like the the in between levels were hard as [ __ ] and this is exactly the same thing it's just even Evon had this pulled opinion levels which was really really hard also last war it's not easy so of course not it's really hard so it's it's it's there and it's like you know it's aimed for these like hard hardcore players definitely like last four is completely aimed at uh you know the scaling of your Heroes if you if your heroes are [ __ ] sh at the mini game so here I guess it's a little bit different but it's still like pretty intense and pretty like I would say they would have a separate team just to kind of balance this thing out and build it small team like literally somebody had to build vampire survivors into the game yeah exactly and then they kind of it what I'm trying to say this is not like duct taped on top of it it's just like it's really Incorporated fully integrated
yeah fully fully integrated so when when people think oh you know you know what I I'm just gonna put mini games into my game and it's like oh no you just need to make like whole new game into itly your main game so it's there um yeah do we want to do I guess we don't want to do all five minutes but yeah this is pretty much how it does uh I guess at some point the bear starts running at me because there's the boss of the level yeah and then some more skills and some more stuff and you need to survive for pretty much 5 minutes there the only thing I'm missing here is just zombies where the zombies zombies are not there yeah so that's what do you think like in the Forex Community right like what do you think makes someone leave let's say why at survival to play this instead like what is their Clan their Clan makes them leave yeah yeah if their Clan uh pretty much gets to the decision that this game is just superior to the previous because
they're losing [ __ ] ton of money that they spent into their main game uh then I guess they leave because this is you need to keep in mind that Forex is run on the server shards this is very important thing Forex is not one giant server Forex always lives and dies based on these server shards that kind of are these small ecosystems where people kind of conquer eat eat each other alive and then kind of move on to the next one like lock to form basically yeah it's survival of the fit is always and you have like thousands of these shards playing at the same time so it's like caderie basically and then I think we talked to what was uh the name of the other guy we went for dinner with lemon forgot his name DAV it no the other one sorry but I know he he told me about like there's literally metrics for Forex games that how these servers behave regarding their retention
regarding their user spent and regarding like what's the possible LTV to even squeeze out of these servers that you go around to kind of know how healthy your Forex servers are and this is very important like Forex is like super super deep if you really know what you're doing regarding development side and the analytics side so yeah don't even want to get there like I guess at some point we can uh take him on you mean nink yeah yeah yeah we should get him on the pot at some point to talk about this because this like super interesting to kind of get get the yeah it's call this in Social Casino could be some of the best monetizing games like the highest LTV right I think it's more than Social Casino it's more than Social Casino us definitely for sure social casinos is giant scale regarding people this doesn't have giant scale these have giant spend yeah yeah so back to the Forex part as we go
so back one thing like you you were talking about the clan and everything like the VIP players are also treated like Absol like kings in these these games very close to social casino VIP programs and like all the fun stuff out yeah even more yeah yeah even more yeah for sure yeah so regarding the game itself um let's maybe get on some of the features so they have the store here which is like Forex game just Giant Stores so let's just start so building you offer regular supplies offer daily special by the way as usual they have their best offers always have free rewards that you need to click and if you get one to rid of the notification every day so just like it's literally duct tape on top of the offer like come and pick your daily free stuff to see the offer Kingdom horde which is basically battle pass limited Bounty another battle pass heroic Expedition another battle pass hero growth again another kind of a battle pass which you know as your
Heroes grow you get these offers to kind of commemorate their progress go back to go back to yep go back one more is that a battleship where right there dancing it's a battleship it's Yoto no no no no no no no no no uh multiple speed UPS offer as you know time is a currency literally in this game literally it's one of the currencies value packs hero rally grow fund again for topup yeah topup is always the nickname for offer when you pay for the first time so you get like advantages on that VIP store because of course we have VIP levels that you need to kind of go refresh every day which increases your property because the key with these Forex games is that you have like thousands of properties everything has like thousands of properties speed of this speed of that right of this rate of that which means that if you have thousands of properties we can have thousand special kind of for fuses and progression vectors of each one of these which means
we can have giant granularity of stuff that we can sell because there's so much stuff to sell have you seen a link to a web shop not yet or at least haven't I don't think I don't think in here I think it's in the like Discord server or somewhere but not not that blatantly as we are used to with some games yeah so Event Center there's the typical calendar Forex games like they just really need this feature Imperial part there's are typical like day one to day five event when you first time log into the game like pretty much it's it's the resource shower mechanic where we shower the first time user with resources everything goes super fast and after day seven day eight like the flow stops and you need to pay to keep up in the same same level of progress some more offers some more scaling like sorry these are these are events then you have like spin wheels or whatnot yeah this is by the way the store currency these kind of like additional silver coins pillar of
Merit that's like U yeah just some kind of ranking more like I think like we've seen these events being rotated out and like everywhere like I I didn't see like anything kind very new to this what's new and this is super interesting if you go to Hero section uh we have our heroes again very strong strong GAA by the way every literally there's like up to 10 epic Heroes or like whatever and then everyone else is just legendary because it doesn't make sense like epic Heroes they don't even have like uh like real historical background they're just like I don't know random people their names if you go to like actual Legendary Heroes they're usually all just like you know CL Patra Jean noar whatever King Derek Richard lionard I think is here King Arthur atila and like all these kind of you know characters from all around the world so they're super powerful each of those have like [ __ ]
20 progression vectors so it's a Shard based GAA so the more shards of the hero collect the more you can upgrade his abilities then you have his level which also depends on his unit carrying capacity that he has their own like working giant tent Tre no this is just tent three uh skill Tre uh is here which is their skills which again you can upgrade each of them separately so this is just like [ __ ] ton of stuff stuff which like you can invest into every single hero and they have very kind of specific uh roles in the economy so let's say this girl is for attacking Cleopatra is literally for Gathering and supporting so you need like Heroes for the war time and Heroes for the peace time so on so forth more vectors more stuff more pressure on your collection so on so forth so this is done perfectly like I don't see any problems to it I think it's much more closer to something like U rise of Kingdoms because if you compare it with something that reminded
me actually rise of Kingdoms by the way with with um last war or white out survival they don't I don't think so they have heroes in that in that Focus as these guys as like rise of Kingdoms and Age of Empires like heroes are still there because you need them but I don't think so they're that that prominent at least like as I saw them okay um moving on uh there's the where is it yeah the the buying thing this is super interesting so every Forex games runs on the notifications as you see here like every time whever I click here there's the notifications otherwise I wouldn't know what to do so their radar or balloon is a little bit hidden but eventually you get it and works exactly the same so the new Forex games instead of you going onto the map and manually searching for stuff they just put in this radar in and that will pretty much tell you what to do and this consumes your daily stamina this is your like actions per day so you again go to objectives what whatever but you can still if you really want and
like you run out of stuff and you still have stamina because this Raider thing will like at some point you eat all of these and then you need to wait for refresh you can still don't manually here from the like search button and you know search for food search for wood search for I don't let's say let's search for an enemy and it literally spawns an enemy near you that you'll be here for three minutes and then you need to kill him so so this this is like bread and butter that like the new thing that they had this is the radar feature just again simp simplifies the Forex experience for all the know Forex people so that's there but uh let's go to the to the building queue building que is very interesting so you can actually buy for one of the soft currencies a third slot that's valid for two days and this price stays the same I already bought it once so if I do you bought it but soft currency no no not not for your money thing it's kind of The Prestige one but it's still soft currency you don't need as well because he doesn't really pay in
the in games exactly so but you can still have the offer here which is great like in the menu itself there's like unlock the third CU because in 2,1 157% value of course because having a third queue is literally like I'm increasing the speed of your progression by 50% because you can just build three buildings at a time inste time yeah yeah which is time of course so if you go here and we actually build stuff and this is the The Marvelous part so I need this building so let me upgrade it okay it goes on a timer let's ask for Alliance Assistance is the thing where you click like the hands icon shave on like I don't know a few minutes so let's click speed up and I have all the speed UPS here already but you know my button and my finger is still in the same spot I'm just clicking so let's click quick use are you really sure yes quick use do we want to go Town Center yes oh we need walls let's go to walls upgrade okay Alliance Assistance again
speed up quick use I haven't even moved my button and I'm pretty much completely building my city which is one thing you see how streamlined this [ __ ] is in survival was it the same stream L this no no no man like you don't need to lift the finger of that one button that's the thing see I run out of resources quick use automatically select the resources I need from the you know the inventory again upgrade and we go on I can just keep forever yeah and then then you run out of stuff and then you need to buy stuff and then you just continue but in the beginning you still have a lot of stuff yeah yeah yeah of course so it's literally like autopilot function here and and you you know again insufficient resources doesn't matter like nothing matters here I can be just like upgrading all the thing that I need so it's perfectly designed like the UI is the best Forex UI I've ever seen here regarding these things like it's clip it so good so
comfy like I don't need to go like here and select this and select that I know in some of the other games I need to like you know you were you didn't want to kind of like I don't know spend the timer just like too too much more minutes or whatever or you were announced here it's like super super convenient so like amazing job on the UI definitely and you know it's not really UI itself it's the comfort of me being able to play the game very easily that that's great so everything is on the same place yeah click one button and that's it and even though as I said the space or the city is a little bit expense so you need to kind of scroll to kind of see all with part it doesn't matter because you know if you just click the button that's there and on top of it there's this Burning thing that's burning in the city you know what's that your Heroes no it's an offer ah I was going to say store no no no no say there are these two offers one for Mulan and one for
Leonidas that's pretty much been here forever it's it's burning there and then at some point they added the event button for the new event that's running that's also kind of there and it's literally duct taped on top of the UI layout that kind of sits there so that's there um yeah regarding the other things again play pretty Forex like I again join my guild need to join their nest here where you see here where there's like all the the other people here and there's this giant continent that we all wearing from the outskirts to the middle you see again Gates or these ships or whatever we need to get into the middle nobody's there yet you see how Clans are slowly like chopping off the land into their possession like for instance we have some giant Guild here the green guys against us we are the small yellow guys whatever so on so forth so this is like I think we never really talk about like this kind of Innovation within like the Deep Forex end game but uh yeah I
haven't seen any maybe some like very deep Forex people can correct me here or this is doing something differently but it's just like the usual bread and butter I don't don't see any kind of new things but yeah regarding the onboarding and everything it's like very very smooth is very high production value you see all of these kind of for instance they give you for they have skins even for your uh customize Citadel team yeah for a citadel and they actually give you a skin for free that's like super convenient because this is I think the default one this is the one that I have now which looks just much more like literally like some kind of a stolen Gondor thing uh some of the Skins even have stats so they're super valuable like this one for instance or the Halloween one which is like all unit types plus 1.5% and again some kind of event feature or whatever where we get this and stuff like that so yep very very polished definitely like on the
strong end of this so yeah I guess that would be it the numbers numbers yeah let's talk about numbers and this is super interesting yeah so the revenue of the game uh it was soft launched August 1st this year and but we never really paid attention to it did we H that was announcement kind of there was an announcement and then we knew already it will be a Forex yes you know making it yeah so uh right from the bat the game literally started like 3 days after global which was October 16 the game started doing 500k a day very easily it's a little bit of a downtrend but uh you know interesting you never know with these things because it's just like so early and so giant Revenue so yeah can really tell uh yeah downloads is the usual Forex shark fin which is like giant downloads in the beginning and then kind of stable what 50k a day still
50k a day for Forex it's not not not bad it's not not not bad because the CPI is Sky High can you you do and put out survival there and some other Forex titles just took a that's my thing the other thing I wanted to talk about so by download size for last 30 days let's kind of give them that which is like in what was it place here so they will finish their first 30 days in like seven days so they got in the third place with like 4 million downloads until last 30 days which is their whole run and they have still seven days to go to kind of finish the 30 days thing white out survival is on the top place with 7.3 million and last war survival is 6.4 which could be within the margin of insane literally they're wiping the floor with everybody else mobile is is on the on the fourth fourth spot
interesting enough let me just like switch to the other more important uh metric which is revenue and then you will see I see it already in the on the third column right there nowh yeah I so so this is a much more green picture where last war survival is doing 116 or 117 million a month white out surval is doing 100 million a month man last time we talked about white out surv it was like [ __ ] hell Christ and keep in mind they're still on top we mini game Revenue yeah and it's still as Revenue that we don't know about yeah so then we have Evon in third place age of origin fourth place um some Chinese characters in The Fifth Place uh rise of Kingdom sixth place Warrior Warrior Seventh Place EMP mobile so even though being 10 cent
and having Age of Empires IP having the launch week or lunch month will give you on the seventh place into overall Forex lead but you know why it's because you see if when you see the creatives you will see you will see the difference between last war white out survival and Age of Empires mobile they're playing The Nostalgia card Nostalgia card only they sound expensive High cpis yes and I think it's just a matter of time I think like this is the first days until they switch to actually the The Playbook of white out survival and last war and then the fun starts actually because then the Survivor IO can game play I mean it's still not as slow CPI for Survivor iio type of game with this this art it's there whoever got the whoever got the idea for Survivor I guess it was
I think it was this conversation at marketing where somebody was like are we going to play The Nostalgia card and there was this other guy like it won't work trust me and he already started building the Survivor iio game in in way he's waiting for his moment like I told you so yeah yeah exactly because you know because you know what yeah yeah yeah we will play The Nostalgia card it's going to be great and then someone said yes for 30 days well maybe maybe for two weeks because I mean those creatives and I will show you in a second it's it's great but it's not last war w of survival great like it's great it's funny I mean you will see there are hooks but it's see you it's and also it's the Nostalgia thing is just it's limited kind of because it's just it's our kind of age which is still not the whole kind of spectrum of Gamers and the hyper casual mechanics that's way more broad than just like
Nostalgia Age of Empires although I'm not saying it's a small group of people it's not but still man we told you like uh or let's say the numbers show this 50k downloads a day now after like nearly 20 30 days what's clocking white out survival 200 250k a day still last four is clocking 200k a day yeah yeah still after launching well last what is what like not even close to one year white survival is close to like what two years almost right so come on like what are we even talking about the difference like how much you know Age of Empire Nostalgia can pump out and how much all of those like freezing bears and whatever Zombies free like o yeah uh so yeah let's let's double check maybe if if you just go all and
and that's that's it it's all it's all oh it's all last war was from June last year no no no no no like Global loue is December November December look there yeah November December last year that's that's so see now now it's going to be one year yeah okay so now it's going to be one year and I think white out this U is basically a flat line of 200k a day yeah yeah I mean incredible well for Forex game for Forex game like if this go to if we go to White out survival is not even Flatline it's a rising line forever pretty much until they hit this current record this month which would you say is a slow hockey stick yeah this is this is the the signature Century game slow yeah signature signature entry games yeah yeah kudos to heaven and the whole team guys you're killing it oh my God this is great with Revenue
like you see yeah I know SL hocky stick yeah and and I I remember the days when you said oh this peaked already but it didn't so is the is the genre forx overall the revenue is it growing remaining the same and just shifting between the players or are more players it's growing now it's definitely growing just because of the trickery that these two companies are doing now because they're enlarging the Forex Group by pulling players that don't even want to play Forex they to play those like hybrid casual mini hyper casual games and they end up playing foring even though they don't know it yeah yeah that's why you need to follow Uncle yacob's trick to spotting a Forex as soon as you see a hospital you know you've been duped and you need to exit the game as soon as you see a hospital that mean no more game is also very predictor in the right hand corner which is always a shop
there's always a shop in the right hand top right hand corner always there's a special offer yo prediction will vampires be playing with the big boys or will it be forever stuck below the fifth place what do you think um I think so there's two things happening here one is two big boys yeah how much what's Age of Empires by the way as the IP owner uh it's Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft okay yeah so I think the problem with this game could be in that IP deal because I don't know how much that IPL deal will let them do the you know cookie cutter [ __ ] that last wait wait there's no cookie cutter [ __ ] last for like they had Anthony star they they only just use the like the the mechanics they they do a lot of like this hyper casual [ __ ] which is in the game so it's not fake and if they do add like some maybe new mini games I mean Survivor IO can help but the thing is like they picked the wrong I think the wrong mini game not
wrong endless Runner endless Runner should have pick C or C yeah Ian whoa wow that's a good idea especially now especially now I mean I don't know like how it would fit into the Forex Universe in Age of Empires though but still okay whatever no honestly honestly like look I think you know the game The Wolf the animal kind of theme Forex as well that would be way better I mean the animals in that Survivor iio maybe like a setting that would be way better than like all this like the task was to make h of Empires like and Mas as a Forex hey well look I mean I'm just trying to find Solutions was yeah of course what the revenue split by the way is it uh is it China there yet it's like 50% ads Felix
what they say yeah exactly by my this is a US IP so like this the us but there's like South Korea Japan very strong right after it it might be something going coming from China but not as strong as the others absolutely make a prediction where do you think it's going to end up do you think it's gonna they step up their UA to the way that mat said or they're just going to get crashed over very simple yeah I mean pretty much like just you know just join the queue here where everybody gets kind of crashed by these two people on the top is that Star Command at the end Jesus it's gone down oh yeah yeah yeah that's command there at the end click it I just want to see what's going on there uh you want to see down revenue revenue yeah so there's scope Le Forex pretty much there the Star Trek one and it's
making what I would say Revenue wise sit still like you know keep in mind this was launched December 2018 so yeah I think it's pretty going down and if you put what at Survival on the same graph yeah something there like it's what like still like day 100K a day H yeah Forex is I see like pretty much no UA nothing no I don't know NeverEnding starter guy organic probably yeah yeah okay give me the screen boys give me the screen boys now now yeah now the fun Starts Now the fun starts so the main I'm expecting will be just Nostalgia yeah exactly all Nostalgia I mean they're like playables which is not even a playable honestly it's just like playable end card uh by most probably and like oh oober 17 Global it's all all
of this high production value guys all all of it all of these I mean it's all I mean this like high production value kind of uh battle fields and stuff that you showed it's it's all there I mean you have the the classic gift code Age of Empires whatever just not even sure it's actually there then we have this and here we go you remember this yeah of course bansi how do you turn this thing there we go this is this is uh this is the Cod what was it like the cheat Cod no no I mean the hook the hook this is the the Johnny de movie from Las Vegas now where he looks like oh maybe yeah it is it is hey wasn't there a cheat code where you actually got the car how do I turn this thing on it was this car you could get it in as a that was a cheat Cod you typed in exactly so so then you
have nostalg basically all Nostalgia blah blah blah and then whatever else you fish you want me to name the other cheat codes from Age of Empires too because I still remember them oh nice us don't remember Rock was rock on and then how do I turn this thing on was the banshee and then uh wood was what was wood I forgot it BR damn it I actually I actually played much more time in Age of Mythology than Age of Empires oh could be Empires when I saw the hook with the car I was like hey hey you paid attention I guess you actually and this look you see the old CRT monitor yeah exactly so look this is like before before now yeah like this seriously like
this old F right there was just got me it was so good and then we have the the CGI like one minute long uh kind of video which is the I think what you showed almost like all these Heroes everything it's just I mean nothing really groundbreaking to be honest it's mostly YouTube but if we go if you look into the all the networks they're running again app on the top spot who would say that then then they have YouTube and stuff so it's like it's it's it's main mainly like mainly uplo if we go and I try to check Tik Tok it's just the Classic Tik Tok creative Challenge videos with the with creators mean honestly look where are you doing your UA yes yeah I mean I mean it's come on like
this is not even I don't know I don't think that's a fit but uh it's just Tik to creative challenge so that's fine I guess uh you can go but even that is Nostalgia you see if you played before always before exactly what was that STA go back what was that static no the one with the girl this one this girl which or this one that's clra now it's Katra from the game okay mean okay on Facebook what you know like it's 1997 2024 1997 2024 pretty much noal exactly everything yeah it's it's all also localized you have different languages German French I think whatever else I guess like there are so many other but this I mean again like this is not going to work like long term like no way not going to
get your hyper hyper casual player cpis you're going to eat your you know Age of Empires Niche which is going to be by the way pissed in the first place because this is not age of empir they wanted uh and again like you know where is this coming from like all cringy real short stuff done by also L for the rise of Kingdoms and this just like I mean I was like what the [ __ ] why am I actually watching this it's so bad but then it's like okay and whoa what's happening ah I don't want to play this game after seeing this that but anyway AG of Empires mobile is like classic explaining of of everything Faithfully recreated Landscapes the only difference is that it's Forex man yeah exactly it's Forex map and even if you're a Creator and it's like oh you
beloved beloved game play it's now it's like the same thing it's just no faar feel yeah yeah ex yeah except they're going to milk your your soul it's just oh wait wait wait seen look here in the there was like not actual game playay should be yeah yeah it should be there so H yeah and yeah that's feel I have thousands of hours in Age of Empires 2 is like my childhood favorite game that in reder 2 I don't feel great about this no me me neither I mean it's it's just it's it's not there it's it's not also guys like I think they just hired one group of people here it's the same thing same people all over again same actors yeah yeah yeah yeah basically I think there was yeah I think this and they don't have anyone like any more
of these like you know why there's like CRT monitors every yeah because this is this is it I mean it's now it's all great like remastered Age of Empires except it's not you know what actually if they actually like give a [ __ ] about the thing and actually created the like some modification of Forex with this maybe this could work but this is like I think it's just like resing engine on like from somebody that has like Forex stuff built in already could be because you know like when we check the soft lunch games let's say like fun plus or top for fun or like all these other the guys like the Forex part is always the same kind of the same yeah so so so it's just like the visual and like the onboarding that's changing so I guess this is the same exact thing here it's exactly the same yeah they just adding like a few mini games on top of it like you showed us in the and I I really would want like some actual
iteration on the Forex gameplay itself like I think that's what the market needs now would you would you rather what would you rather both of you have the answer would you rather Play 50 hours of slotto mania or 50 hours of Age of Empires mobile oh 50 hours of Age of Empires mobile come on man like that's question I think I'm hitting kind of pretty closely on 50 hours Age of Empire's mobile already I mean but it's just you know like everybody has their own preferences like yaku wouldn't play um play doku or whatever else you would rather play aged of Empires mobile than play do or color W heart because did you like this game yob honestly like did you like it um I liked it like it is nice like it's not that bad come on you know [ __ ] [ __ ] policy is knocking on my door it's like come on like I like games the problem the problem with Forex games
that I have that I've seen them like so many already that like it's just like so predictable for me and like the same problem so down if you with your or not because this is much more fun if you're actually with your clan real friends and you know you chat online and like you know do ambushes on other people or whatever wipe with them and stuff like that it's great fun like that that's that's good is their football at yeah I just like what n versus 11 it's it's man it's the same group of people again like it's just again St actors talking about like how can you win not in football but in Age of Empire yeah because with the right strategy you can win and oh and man like whoever are these guys they made a lot of money on this and good luck because this is the last thing you're are going to do yeah this is last thing yeah wow it's just okay okay anyway W
for I think we've talked this enough yeah I think we are just yeah I'm just uh waiting for the the real not real but almost real stuff start to start to happen with the with Survivor IO ads and everything and then we might be start seeing like growth okay yeah so from my point of view like the game is done super well like don't really have anything to kind of you know point out like this is wrong or whatever I guess the main thing that prob M has to point out that they're not using all of their weapons yet with the mire survivors mini games and all these other [ __ ] that they have there running which is definitely buil towards UA otherwise they wouldn't Ed it there because doesn't make any sense yeah so why not so probably just a marketing guy who insisted that Nostalgia will work better and he's probably get kicked after this month um so that's there and uh yeah the UI is very good like the the comfort of you
just clicking one button and everything else build itself up without you even needing to think it's great so yeah nine out of 10 definitely like Forex wise is nine out of 10 but keep in mind even though having nine out of 10 game doesn't [ __ ] matter in Forex you don't have n out of 10 UA yeah yeah exactly when UA is like four it's just because it's like some some of the some of the great stuff which kind of brings the Nostalgia but it's like it's it's not not enough I'm sorry guys it's not enough allas okay good thank you very much for for listening yeah they know it yeah know Chinese they already building the mini games for it they're just not using it I don't know why maybe somebody in Microsoft radar this is going to be a great one for review radar I'm actually we have already fre games in review radar that we need to we need to check so yes definitely yes again thank you very much for listening uh see you next time please comment uh under the under
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