🚨Lands Of Jail: Prison SIM meets 4X strategy. It's Frozen City + Whiteout + Toy Factory & scaling

This is the part that we talked before that why DC dark legion probably is not making money because they skipped this whole like time currencies parex of unit training forex map thing. I still wasn't able to unlock this last icon even though I really wanted even though I'm central HQ level 11 already which maybe if you spend some money. Yeah. [Music] Golden eyes with those coins. We're the two and a half gamers. The midnight crew talking too. We're rocking those vibes till the early [Music] day slows are beautiful. They like the way it Don't delay.

[Music] Yeah, you should. Hello. Hello. Hello. Welcome. This is Two and a Half Gamers again. My name is My name is Angelich. I'm Felix Proberg. And we we are your host. It's so uns smooth. I know. We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. So, I'm eye candy today cuz we're covering another Forex. Is that's what's happening? Man, we're not supposed to spoil it. We're covering a prison game. Yeah, it's prison game. There you go. It's prison. I didn't see any CTV ads for this game, but if you want to go there, you should definitely call our dear sponsors

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is. I can't can't wait. I can't wait. I can see. Anybody other than me played this? Absolutely no. As usual, was playing Word Search Explorer, the biggest admon I I just can't. Yeah. Yeah, no worries. I just can't Oh, exact. Yeah, this is exactly why I can't play this. Yeah, that needs reminds me that I also need to bring the YouTube video of the on boarding as usual with our forex things because that's just not not not better than seeing Forex slowly unwinds itself on you from the moment that you don't think it's a Forex. I mean, when a game is too easy and too kind to you, that's when you know you're playing a Forex. No, no. I think it's when when you don't really know what what's happening. That's where that's that's the forex sign. Yeah. Okay. Better way of putting it. Yeah. Yeah. Things. And then a hospital comes and then you know. Yeah.

Yeah. So, how this starts as usual, let's do it the 4x way now that you know it. Forex way. So, there's pretty big in-game cinematic actually that's happening with all this game is pretty big. The game is pretty big. But yeah, so just wanted to stress that they really took their time to flesh it out properly that it looks like it's not a Forex game as it should be. This reminds me of that cinematic that we saw with Age of Empires Mobile. There was also like you remember guys, that one hurt. That one hurt. That one hurt. How is this similar to mean? Because there's in-game cinematics. What do you mean? Okay, whatever. I'm playing. Never mind. I hear you. Yeah. So, we have our sexy secretary as usual. There's a sexy narrative character. Check that. We We choose an avatar. This is new. We don't really do

it. We usually have predefined. So, our narrator gives us some tasks and we are actually warden of a prison which is new and I get that why this is happening. probably the layout seems kind of familiar already. Whereas there's a road from the bottom going into our uh city. This is a game. No. Okay. Just wait. You'll see. It's not. So, we get our first bunch of prisoners. Those prisoners are then put into their cells and uh we of course get revenue out of them. And then we see that the usual kind of needs three and and then immediately from the screen we can deduct what's this going to happen. So again Mio Felix what's going to happen here where here here what's this screen? Well this frozen city exactly frozen city is

going to happen. So idle simulation is going to happen on the orboarding. This is defined by these in upgrading the like increments or pretty much parts of the rooms and then you get to upgrade the whole room. That's the frozen city staple. So already at this point I was thinking like if this is another century game or wait a second already river game was using this template it dark war where but there was no road maybe there will be road I don't know so I was like let's see but yeah there's definitely frozen city happening in the beginning which is now becoming a staple by the way in forex on boarding manipulation which we see now in dark war survival. IC DC DC0 we see it pretty much everywhere Kingshot everybody is now jumping on it even not being century games so it's again very very proven even the combination of dark war which is the combination of the gates mechanic rode around the city

with the idle simulation which is a dark war setup. So now it's literally taking off as like this is the thing that you should go for. So our secretary gives us more and more things as we go. Then we have the usual button for the quests for Forex games as you see there on the bottom of the main menu. Yeah, you slowly start to upgrade these things. It follows the very close pattern of Frozen City where you start from the houses which are the cells in this case. Everything is like nicely themed in the prison style way. So pretty much the whole frozen city setup is done through this thing. And then as we go, as we go, stuff kind of moves, moves, moves, and then at some point, new things starts to pop up, which is we're going to go and hunt prisoners. So, there was this wanted notice, which is the usual wanted notice, which is the pressure point. Because usually what happens within these games, you get some kind of longer

timer or it's like warning, you need to do this, complete some quest. We put pressure on you as usually. I failed the timer on purpose. Nothing happened. It just stays there. That's the other staple. So, we get the girl from the icon. Actually, she she's the one on the icon and we get to hunt her and she unlocks the usual saga progression. So, we Yeah. Yeah. That's not the case. There one more one more screen that's going to happen with that. So, we actually building a toy factory in the prison. So the prisoners are building toys and we're selling them. So this is their idea behind the money generation that we are building toys and you can like work the prisoners very hard and low their morale and like a little bit of that you know morale ride. There can be even a ride actually and you need to call the army because your prison will go you know be overtaken by prisons. Whatever happened to me? I was not looking or paying attention. So, we move on and then we build some

more stuff. More frozen city, frozen city, Frozen City, more Frozen City. And then as we go, there's more Frozen City. And then people starts to get pissed off and yeah, there's the riot. So, the riot mechanic happens. And now you need to like do some things which I said I completely missed. Do you shoot a guy? Yeah, you play a little bit of like anti- riot game basically. Think of it. You know where we seen this. What was the analog to this? Sniper hunter. I don't know. No, no, no, no. Think think it's kingshot. You have these little bit invasions from time to time that you need to cover and like do something, kill some enemies. It's kind of farfetched, but I know it's iteration. It's iteration. It's almost like me saying it's a tower defense. That was funny. That was funny. That was a great episode.

Okay. So, you you win this if you're not me. And then you continue. And there's the usual chapter rewards as the Frozen City template has that. And then you continue and progress and progress and progress. You get more prisoners. Here is the thing where like again you can make them more toys or less toys. You can increase your metrics. And then I think that's the point where our video on YouTube ends, which will bring me to the real game. So what happens afterwards, the saga unlocks basically with the idle mechanic and our usual setup where we're going after these prisoners and we have the typical thing which is like nothing prisoners. Of course, you fight other It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Whatever you just fight those are your soldiers actually, man. like those are whatever. Prisoners are soldiers in this game also. So I'm I'm winning by the way even though I have a lower army rating. Oo means my

team. I'm very proud of you. Yeah, I know. Later down the line, the scout hanger unlocks as usual. There's there's our feature right there which unlocks the map. So if we go simplified the map looks very simple though compared to the other ones. So here we are at the map and there's our usual map. By the way, this game I don't know so many things. Yeah, that's like that's the usual for forex play. By the way, guys, this thing is so aggressive like it seems in current days it's mandatory to have bots that drags you into the chat and demands your country and Discord name immediately. Nice. If you don't respond in 1 hour, you get kicked. Like literally half of my messages here are like bug messaging. Reply to this message to prove it otherwise I'll kick you out of the alliance as a robot. Nice. There's like so many people writing to me like alliance use discord for communications. Please tell me your

discord using me. I will promote you to the no no. So like it's so invasive now that like whoever alliance you like you need to be at their discord like in like 5 minutes. So are these real people or is a boss asking you? It's real people. real people. Real people. So they're asking you if you are a bot or not. Sometimes are bots and sometimes are real people actually. But uh it's just like it just shows you how sticky this thing is. Like in order to do anything with it, you immediately dro you have to discord and it's the coming from the players, not the app itself. Yeah, that's the best part. So how do you know they're real? What do you mean? How do you know those people messaging are real? Because you see them in the Discord. Okay. I don't know if you checked. I didn't know if you checked. You have to. If you're like you get kicked out like I was just lucky that the last one didn't kick me out yet. That's that's the thing. I like seventh one or whatever. Who's Mia? And let me guess, she's tied to a bomb. No, she's just died. She's the sister of our secretary. So,

it was not the secretary. It was her that got kidnapped. And now we need to rescue her with this giant timer. And yeah, she's chained there to some I don't know if it's a bomb. I don't think so. It's a bomb. is just yeah it's nothing. She's just sitting in a chair tied there with like in chains beaten beaten face and makeup. Yeah. Is there dramatic as usual timer runs out nothing happens as as as usual with these hostages but it's the staple mechanic of these games. So they're following the formula pretty closely here uh of what we saw saw there with like King Shodor dark war survival but again they're not using the river gun template. So, this is not not one of the guys that we talk about usually at the podcast. No River Game, no T for fun, no Century, no what was there? Fun Plus, none of these. This is actually, as we learned from our great friends in China, a company called EWorld. Eworld. Yeah. Which actually has

this great game that we're going to talk about at some point. Yes. This is vampires or like nannies? No, it's this is waifu simulation like simulation plus life. Actually, there's like great article uh on on WeChat that I that I read through this like these guys like they know what they're doing. They're very just listen to this Yen if I if I read that correctly. Yeah, man. Like don't don't do Yeah. predecessor was Evang which was established in 2012. Originally engaged in joint operation related business. We have successfully operate more than 2,000 3,000 products basically many blah blah blah blah blah. Between 2015 and 17 transformer began to distribute products starting with the product Gold Coin Monopoly and then uh was the first in China to make a simulation business game. At that time everyone was making very heavy products such as RPG and SLG. Basically is also a pioneer of simulation business in China.

So these guys make the prison game. Yeah, these guys make this prison game now. They're they're doing the they're doing and like this is only possible to know thanks to our Chinese friends and kudos to heaven because I was I was also looking into into any kind of western press releases and like but this is what I found the specific founders or people people are not publicly highlighted in press sources. the company company CEO or lead G designers have kept a low profile investor media. Yeah, but this this usual thing with like Chinese forex companies like Singapore just game technology PTE. There you go. Go on. We are we are hiring. Send us your CV. Yeah. So we'll call you. So the company definitely knows what is doing. Like the article was very enlightening and and they have like very very different view

of how to look even at the simulation market because as I was reading this yeah actually actually sorry to just interrupt I I had like some Chinese uh also websites and seems like this is just the lens of gel appears to be the company's most ambitious project. That's what you mentioned. Combining their simulation expertise with the Forex genre, industry analysis explicitly notice notes that this game uses prison management theme on a white up survival style forex SRG game. There you go. Yeah, that's the template using. Yeah, this is the thing that I wanted to highlight. They're talking about the isekai live game here in this this is like one year old. But our understanding of the entire simulation business can be divided into three to four directions. Simulated business or simulated industry, simulated construction and

simulated life. Oo. Which is this waifu simulation. Yeah. Yeah. So and and then they go on like a very very long pretty much article of like why they chose this specific thing for isekai life, why they published in Japan, why it works in Japan, why like like they pretty much cut out the whole world into three regions. West one, China one, Japan one and like each request completely different product setup. So like these guys definitely know what they're doing. I'm just very intrigued that we haven't heard them before or like they're joining the forex frame. China like where would you go in China? It's for I'm not I'm not that surprised. I mean, we're keeping a very close eye on this game for a while, but still. Yeah. Yeah. So, once you once you go on the map, the usual Forex madness pretty much kind of goes at you like pretty much standard features that we see there. Lots of events, lots of offers, lots of the usual stuff like all the event calendars, tournaments. I

don't know what everything's, by the way, nicely teamed with the prison team. Like everything's everything that's like super I thought like, by the way, this was like really genius. This was like you're hunting other players that are rats and and they're like not supposed to be other players and there's like I don't know if this is like destroying cheaters or like they literally planted these artificial players into the map that you're hunting. I don't know. Like this is great. And then there's the the community mechanic and we have the usual top up. Is that a rewarded ad? What? No. No. You wish character. Yeah. Character video. I should have known. I should have known. I think we I think we had this before. Yeah, we had bamboozled by this before. Like, oh my god, there's a play. Oh, wait. No, man. No, no, no. Uh, yeah. More special offers. Stop up stuff. A

bank again. Well, we meet again. Very clever. Understood. Like this was in the games way before. So it's not It was in the games before. By the way, better rates 6% instead of 5% than than Kingshot in banking. In banking business is big leap. So that's there. It's definitely there. It's there. Uh there's some live ops here with characters eating sushi and stuff. I don't know what's this about, but like looks great and everything. So you get shards of these other heroes. Seven day checkin. Maybe an ad or maybe not. Maybe not. I'm not falling for that one again. Yeah. Golden scale pack. Do you think rise to power the usual like this is like pretty much everywhere this kind of first five, seven mission setup. You get your heroes as usual. So this is basically the the classic Forex. Yeah. Yeah. It's like no no classic frozen

city. Frozen city template. That that's the thing because as I said river game they have a little bit different template especially with stuff like top heroes or or like some of the other games. I just Yeah. I just I just said like it's prison theme built on all simulation white survival bricks. Yeah. They also differ a little bit with the needs part you know because we don't have a reactor or whatever central building with heating but instead of that we have you have prisoners yeah you have prisoners that this like the iteration here is for instance like I can go here and give like commands which are just like whatever do something as a warden speaks to the crowd and then increases some stats there are these vending machines and there's like premium vending machine placement which is the one you know we know this by like sig dog or whatever the character sitting there forever placement that you can complete so that that's their version then we

have what do we have here that's like specific yeah the dungeon this is also something new so from the saga of like the autobat link you get these prisoners and these prisoners are basically additional buffs you upgrade those and um yeah it's like a collectible album or something but you can actually let them go out. See, she's going out because we let her out of the dungeon to like walk in the prison yard, whatever. Guess she's going back now. So, that's there. And then the layout also is very reminiscent of Kingshot because we have the frozen city part on top and the Forex part here on the bottom hidden and it only shows itself after you start kind of going into it. So this is actually much more closer to Kingshot than to Frozen City to be honest. Like I wouldn't be. Yeah, but this was released way before Kingshot. Really? I don't know. We can compare

that. I think so. This was actually released March. So put Kingshot there. Yeah, but this definitely built alongside Kingshot. I think they started working maybe with a partner. That's what we're seeing here. Kingshot sooner. I told you like this is based on Kingshot, man. I think they had the SLG core and they was like, "Oh, they changed it from white out survival. Let's change it." This thing I mean, how how one different No, no, no, no, no, no way, man. They just iterated white out survival. That's it. I mean, or dark war. Maybe dark war. I Yeah, I would say so. I would say dark war. Don't know. Also, it's China, so most probably they all know each other anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just saying the games game making currently

something like 200k a day. Still going up, which is great sign. How much money do you think they make on ads? 160 70k downloads a day. So that's there. Active users, if I understand, are still growing. I could see that half a mill. Oh, that's pretty nice. Do you think they're actually using PVX partners? Maybe. Maybe because today's episode is also brought to you by our sponsors, PVX Partners. Most effective credit line for marketing. If you're scaling your game and you want to grow like lands of jail or you need funding, here's the deal. PVX partners, no equity dilution. You can repay as you get paid. It's very flexible and fast and you can get your term sheet in just 24 hours. So don't wait. Take control of your UA budget without giving away a piece of your company or you don't really need to sell your soul. So visit pvxpartners.com

and see how they can help you grow your K. pvxpartners.com. Thinker mash, guys. Keep your soul and get a reply in 24 hours. That's pretty good, man. Pretty good. Yeah. So you don't end up in lens of jail. So yeah. So we have the usual gacha here. The shitty one, the better one. Better and better. Yeah. So it's basically frozen city gacha like nothing really to it. Most of the times you just roll in resources. Heroes are kind of very scarce and they just always gives you just the shards. So you need to wait until you accumulate enough and then you can unlock those. Like I don't have all of these basically the usual kind of all of the currencies and everything. This is the part that we talked before that why DC dark legion probably is not making money because they skipped this whole like time currencies barracks of unit training forex map thing. I still wasn't

able to unlock this last icon even though I really want it even though I'm central HQ level 11 already which if you spend some money. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see if I can't force it. 6,000. It's too late to force it now, man. You should some creatives instead. Okay, we we'll we'll lose the shield. You the shield. See, when Yeah. Is there more like if you compare this to match three, the Forex genre? There's more games coming out in Forex, right, than match three. And everybody's now going to Forex. Seriously. Not. Yeah. But you know, like this is the part it's too late. And this is the part where you see what's happening here with all these Forexes. They're just changing teams because they're finding good CPIs, better like on boarding start of that funnel like we saw with Kingshot because they found the throne. By the way, thanks for everyone pointing us to to us that it's based on throne fall game from Steam. We're going to fix that soon. Also, I actually found the game that I

was talking about in the that the defense game. Yeah. No, no. Yeah, it was actually Nightfall which is on the top of thronfall basically and there's like it's Nightfall. Okay. Okay. Like [ __ ] There's there's Matt's mystery there. Yeah. Yeah. M. So what we see here is basically again another version iteration with the funnel where we just basically change the team. Like this is not even that radical iteration like top girl or apex girl where they actually simplify. This is basically white out survival/ frozen city with a different team because that team is probably having a better CPI. Period. Yeah. Just just if you remember the the good old the Hero Wars creatives from the prison where the the main character was trying to break out of the prison. Also, there's a lot of [ __ ] happening from the toilet which I guess that's the that's the main CPI driver. Yeah, just looking at it, I don't know

if I missed anything like the VIP thing seems very very Yeah, you just missed activating it. No, no, the activating. The thing is that the activating you actually can get there with gems. That that's the interesting part that it's not just like Yeah. Yeah. If you spend gems, you can just eat all these points and you get there without even paying money. So, if I didn't spend all my gems or it's a little bit different, I guess there's some kind of iteration definitely not the monetization kind of types. So, they they're doing stuff there. currently probably coming from the simulation business that they're just kind of you know this works for them because this this is any simulation to begin with like this whole idle idle prison on boarding that they have there so I guess some stuff they're iterating there but yeah other than that it's basically bread and butter as I said it's much more closer to kingshot but uh yeah we'll see like I I didn't have any other riots after after the first one maybe

it's just like doing the on boarding to but like so much work for that feature that I guess hopefully we'll show it so some somewhere later more let's see but yep this is pretty much it like the map is the standard kind of forex setup the big one that you can zoom on you have other servers here that you can jump on if you want yeah you have monsters the typical where is it here we are if if I want I can go automatic with the radar here with the plane or I can go manual and I and find pretty much monsters, bosses, nodes to harvest or whatever. Like this is the typical setup. Like nothing really to it. Yeah. And it's kind of scaling pretty nicely. So we'll see where this leads for this new scaling though. Is it going the creatives basically? Yeah. Yeah. That's what I know. But the creatives will be outrageous as I saw last time.

freezing families or prison families or no literally prison prisoners but you know like it's 14 networks here it's basically all of all of it except integral for some reason but so you're talking about 800 but with word search explorer now it's 1,800 so we got one one before but you look so it's basically GTA it's GTA kind of thing. But then we have the good tall. Let's see. AI. This is AI. Yeah, she's not moving at all. AI hook. AI hook. There's all these like drone kind of things. Yeah. You know what is this the hotel game from? Say games. What's the my perfect hotel? My perfect hotel. It looks a little bit like my perfect hotel. Oh, that creative definitely there. So, kind of restoring, cleaning gross stuff. We have the same

thing right here. But if you don't, you know, if it's not I love how she's not moving when the president. But the thing is, you have one creative which is vertical and and you need to do a landscape. So, what do you do? Like, you just put three of them next to each other. This is the same [ __ ] video. I love this. That's one way to fix your Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, no landscape, no problem. It's a lot of one of my favorite. This I think this is the one that we we were discussing last time. Really? Actually, the fight happens during the creative because we saw one where there was actually a real life fight in prison as a hook. Oh, no, no, no, no. There was a different one. Yeah, this we'll find that one. Yeah, you can go to find that one because that was the real real people in there. This is all Unity. I

I'm pretty sure I can find it afterwards, man. It's all their creatives like all of the landscape ones are just three beside each other. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's genius. Awesome. Yeah, it's genius bad or like is that good? It's not bad. I mean, it's it's it's weird. It's unconventional. Definitely. I mean catches the attention like it's all all it's quite different things here. We have also very short se six seconds. Then uh this one of these it's like AI voiceovers and all of these different different things. But I wanted to show you something else which is basically here. It's AI AI AI but AI look it's like 10 me 10,000 meters deep abies like with the voice over the the narratives this is

dark war this is just dark war you know what's strange about this what you know what it's landscape is no three besides each other it's not landscaping it is no no it's not I was just You tricked me there. Yeah. Yeah, I tricked you. It's like is Yeah, he's screaming like Guys, come on. You can do better AI. You can do way better. Yeah, way better AI. It's like all of these different things. All of these different Yeah. different stuff. Yeah. I mean, like some of these I have no idea what's what's happening, but Playing through it. There stuff in it. of I mean of course there is player stuff like all because simulation yeah also there's the AI stuff again uh it's a lot of different AI yeah play is there uh so the the management the simulation all of the different things like it's a

good combination of of of stuff but then we also have this one is Facebook so there go something for you anime yeah Okay, that's very interesting. Very interesting. Yeah, anime AI with interesting music. French people love anime. Yeah. Yakub as well. It was French creative. It's So they have so many different creative concepts. I guess in Forex you do everything, right? You have to do um you do everything that everybody else is doing. Golden Goblins. No, it's idle. Yeah, lumber and also white survival. They're using the the wood in in also by the way township and all of the even office cat from tripla they're using something like this. So basically

the idle simulation kind of uh part of the the gaming industry that's where this is getting from also. Hello Clean clean my prison cell. Yes. I love this. I think where was the real Yeah. Where was the real life? Because like Yeah. Yeah. It was so interesting. I mean, it was so bad. It wasn't really interesting. It definitely Oh, wow. Very bad AI hoops. Very bad AI. They have very bad AI. I mean, look, it's all the all the Chinese companies are doing. Oh, they also Alcatra, man. Yeah, I mean, of course. Yeah, Alcatra. It's nice. Yeah. All the GTA as well. The new GT which is delayed. Of course, it's delayed. All that is

delayed. So, it's not going to be bad. Yeah. Well, you wish. You'll see. You never know. You never know. So again, the I found a real nice nice nice life. Okay. And we have here the kind of look secure prison ever. Love it. AI exploding toilet. Yeah, of course. I mean, you need you need that. It's always eye catching. Anyways, like it's it's all of these different different videos. I love it. Jesus Christ. Give a few hours. Surprised where there's no Prison Break references or anything like that. I guess it's too long ago. Yeah, we're too old for that. Maybe the thing is isn't really that popular. Also, [Music] well, definitely not in China. Oh, it's US revenue.

Sure. Yeah. They have pretty much everything. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I'm going through it this like Yeah. And this this I saw this in in some other games. Absolutely. So, just borrowing everything. Everything. Yeah. Look. Wow. Yeah. Okay. There you go. It's good. Good use of AI catching. And there also liveaction videos which are cringe as [ __ ] but still works quite well I guess. So they're basically at the top of their funnel with the creators. They're using everything that Forex is doing. I even saw Slingshot just now. Oh, Slingshot. Okay. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Look, Gates. Yeah. There we go. There we go. Gates. I mean, just everything. They're very good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's

great. Also that one ad where there's like guy drowning with like small pipe under the water and the guy pours like hot water into it. I think Hero was is doing it now. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's the stuck river as usual. Lines of jail. All of All of this, right? So, we're looking at different Okay. I think Yeah, I think we just We're just everything basically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That's good. That's really good. Pretty much. How do you score a Forex like this? It's just like Was there anything new here? It's just a a different theme, right? just new. There's there's the theme that's some accompanying mechanics iterations as I said like not invasions but prison riots there's the warden buffs there's the

prison album collectible there's whatever like some of these things which are nice to have but nothing quite radical like the most radical game that we actually has here in terms of forex is either white out survival or top girl that that that's and then like maybe last war and that's like everything else is pretty much their archetype or like taking stuff out of them. So, we'll see. DC DC also could be put into this circle because their radical iterations that don't they don't really have that much Forex in the game. So, that's there. But, yep, looks great. And as I said, this is becoming a staple format now to every Forex needs an idle simulation on the onboarding and not just one, but like accustomed to your UA creatives, to your team, completely in sync with everything that marketing does and yada yada yada yada. So that's there. Yeah. Very very good. Like my case like I would say nine nine out of 10 for sure. I mean I can say anything about besides 10 honestly. You do everything right.

They do like seriously. The only thing is like why they're not scaling more. I mean it's like 200k per day. I mean come on. Maybe you know the usual Chinese longtail dragon. You look at Kingshot. Yeah. Yeah. I think Yeah. I think that I think that if you say long tail Chinese dragon that's like the sign of the end. Thank you very much for for coming. See you at MAU register for the parties we have and also come to our Slack channel, subscribe and share the podcast with everybody. Thank you very much. See you next time. Bye-bye. Byebye. [Music]