Exploring Path of Exile2: Pay for Convenience & Comfort

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quite important I finally got to the end game you end game okay yes so we're talking about ped of Exile 2 yeah mate M's noises I fell asleep oh I'm sorry Jesus guys no this this looks like like Diablo oh I would say it's much much darker especially with the two submarines rotating around my character yeah oh submarine nice look so I I I think I I download no I think I downloaded dark and darker first and then I'm but I already bought ped xile to the the first uh early exess whatever Noob version for $30 for $30 no 200 or whatever was there yeah we're going to talk about it more definitely as it kind of unfolds but uh yeah to give people a little bit of a background here or like

I'm going to do a little bit of History episode because I think a lot of time where people are talking about this game they just don't understand the context of what these guys achieved and how they got here so we're going to go the memory lane and at some point I'm going to log in even P of XEL one oh of course show some important things here before we start I I want to stress this is not a game for everyone it's super super hardcore and this what that's what I think but it's very popular it's very popular it is it is heads off yeah it's like it's definitely popular and I I want to I I want to find time to play this but that's the thing if this is as complex as P of Exile one I'm I'm just not I would say like 10% less complex well but as much as they can do you were you were pitching this as the very Streamlight version like this is going to be super easy and I was like okay shave off like 10% of complexity that's

it okay well in that case they can do in that case I just threw $30 out of the window okay thank you very much why why I should I should just put this after the episode not before the episode ah okay so guys yeah the listeners this should uh so why are we why are we even talking about this so we're talking about this because of this of course uh which is the steam chart graph of fed of XEL 2 so if you look at it uh the Early Access started December 6th if I understand correctly or seventh I don't know and uh from there where it hit this kind of alltime peak of 578k uh players uh online it went a little bit on decline but that's normal in bile life cycle so that's nothing new here but especially because this is Early Access and I'm going to talk about

a little bit more important thing when you're looking at these numbers that you need to keep in mind that this is just steam numbers uh the company uh is I would say not not not pretty big like it's not like like thousands of people it's still hundreds of people guys are based from New Zealand and I remember playing beta for ped of Exelon when launch in 2013 actually so it's very very kind of old and crafty and what they're doing here is that it's one of those like we mastered the category mastered the genre mastered the game and you just see the end result of it similar what we seen with hell divers similar what we seen with balers Gate 3 so on so forth um if you look at the charts actually of fed of Exel one and this is even more interesting here you can see that they pretty much hit their alltime Peak in July this year after being

online for literally 11 years and they were still going up because ped of Exile and their kind RPG system lives in these three month cycles that they kind of invented here where each three months there's a new league which resets the whole economy of the current game if you're playing the like the the new league you can still play in standard where there's like economy is completely [ __ ] but kind of nobody cares about that to be honest uh everybody starts from fresh because like three months League goes on everybody needs to build their new character so on so forth and there's usually like new mechanic you can only play the mechanic in the league you can play in the standard it gets put into standard if it's good later down the line after the leag sometimes it doesn't because it's [ __ ] sucks could be [ __ ] yeah they killed some of these mechanics it's like you know they're not genius that didn't say that like they're very good but sometimes they can do

mistakes um but what this thing does as you see these Peaks so it's what I don't think so they they always try this thing because from beta I remember we were doing like act one to act three in three difficulties for like two years or three years I don't know how much like yeah just like my head was blown off by running the same content all over again back then in the dog runs uh but the game got built up that happened to us with Diablo 4 because we played beta and that was amazing and then we when I played the the real game like [ __ ] hell mean diao 3 no Diablo 4 Diablo 4 we both of us we played the beta yeah we played the beta for like the like all like both weekends and it's like oh this is great and then the game came out like [ __ ] this is terrible content is not yeah it's bad yeah yeah same happened with Diablo I by the way beta was great the content was

definitely not that good uh yeah anyway so just saying that this model can works very well and keep in mind they are free to play ped of xile one is free to play ped of xile 2 will be free to play it's not free to play yet it's I mean it's like it's it is free to play you can you know you can wait until it's yeah you can wait until it's free to play but it's not free to play now just like stting the obvious here you need to buy into it through the you know the packages on the website which are we can go over those by the way here so if we go literally into the shop and then like buy packs then yeah you see that you can buy these like access packs and stuff like that that's me $30 yeah yeah so just the base $30 kind of pack can give give you access and of course you get still the

points that you can use for microtransactions we cover those but this can go all the way into something like if I just zoom here yeah what's that no there the previous expansion yeah here we go it's like 500 something yeah yeah 450 which gives you also a t-shirt hoodie a book and I don't know what basically it used to be like you could design a unique item with the team and stuff like that so lot of kind of perks basically so but back to the numbers so these guys pretty much develop the system in their very specific unique version of free toplay and they've been running it for many many years now and what they're achieved also and you need to kind to keep this in mind is that they've been building content and so much content because each three months they basically release a Diablo like

expansion onto the game with like new stuff new skills new content new bosses new everything new mechanics then it gets tested for three months they fine-tune it then they decide if it was good or bad usually the community sentiment is pretty strong about this if it's good or bad and then they put it into the main game and it upgrades the main game and then the cycle repeats so what happened with ped XEL 2 is there [ __ ] ton of content already because it was taken from ped Exile one which they already tested and know that it's very good so if you look at the structure of the game actually what happened here and this was talk in their video is that um they know that the campaign and like the initial let's say single player experience the story and everything like currently for instance act one to act three takes like 25 hours and they know the end game takes like hundreds of hours and everybody just wants to play that and they had this very very smart decision with the team

that for Early Access instead of fully developing the campaign they rather fleshed out the end game uh talk about the end game and they just said okay we won't build act four 5 six for the Early Access we'll build it only for the release we rather put you through act one two and three again on just a higher difficulty and that's it because you know you fly through it anyway and rather focus on end game which I think is a very good that is because you want to play the end game which should be you know like the most time you spend afterwards because you've run through the camp like this happened to Diablo 4 exactly which didn't have any end game yeah there's no end game exactly the opposite direction Diablo 4 was doing basically because now they're fixing the end game before it was just broken um yeah so we have this and uh yeah let's talk about the game actually so about the end game we can look

through it now they have this kind of very very nice World flashed out in these kind of nice Maps so you start in act one uh there are these don't want to spoil the story that much I think the story is kind of pretty good but it's much more it's much more boss driven these times so there's many many many more bosses the game as everybody is talking about it is like the dark souls or ar RPGs which isn't really the like the best comparison but it is let's say if you want to have like a surface level understanding of yes can be said like that so it's kind of hard and you need to because there was this one mechanic added which is the Dodge roll thing which is very very uh kind of iconic for these Souls games where your character just like needs to dodge a lot of attacks which can one shot you and like instakill you during the boss fights that's how they're balance around so this game isn't balanced like P of XL1

where you just like face tank the laser beams and whatever and stuff like because I have so much armor and whatever here he like if you stand in [ __ ] you'll die if you wait for somebody to swing a giant hammer on you you'll die it's very simple so uh yeah it's not I would say it's not that hard as the usual kind of maso cor crowd the masochistic cor version of Dark Souls where it's like you really like the pain of you dying all the time nonstop until you learn completely perfect B mechanics and everything and you can kind of get there like eldering stuff but it's still much more harder it's much more punishing definitely much more punishing uh we'll talk about that later but uh yeah and people like it by the way that's why also why people like the Dark Souls games and why Dark Souls is like even the eldering gam is one of the most popular games in there is it's hard it's hard exactly people like difficulty if it's done properly people like difficulty they don't really like steam roll through yeah where did we where did we see that

oh wait a second we are warriors exactly same thing same [ __ ] thing it's hard and it's challenging and I just want to play and get better just until I figure it out exactly challenging stuff in properly is very important to do and it's popular it's it's not that like as you see there like it's 400 it's what like top 10 was it on Steam what was it on Steam I think like we will have like EU numbers which is like lower because America is sleeping yeah even now it's like top three on Steam currently after DOTA America sleeping it's middle of the day for us talking talking about well dear listeners this is a night show late night show 4 yeah 4 a.m. discussion WIP it's definitely not like America is leeping but it's still like top three game on Steam and as I said even counting the steam numbers I still think they're like less than half of what the actual numbers are because there's consoles and there's native client that people are

used to play this game through native client not steam so still uh and also EP epic epic yeah I bought it for epic yeah yeah so I'm guessing like I think they said already that during launch there were more than 1 million CCU so definitely the the numbers are just much higher yeah anyway moving on and why this game even makes money and what's the free to-play part of it and why are we talking about this so these are regarding the difficulty we can like finish the mechanics a little bit so we play through this act one act two which is a desert area x three which is a jungle area they're kind of continuing their nice um kind of team from first game where you have these like w civilizations which are these like corrupted uh whatever like basically Maya team stuff um then corrupted whatever sounds really good because it's all about this kind of corruption thing

and then you chasing this P of corruption whatever uh so you have then after yeah after you play through it you see act one is pretty much through the cruel difficulty which is the the big run and all these things will be basically removed so we will beave like act one to act s and then you hit the end game and this is really important Jesus looks like a Forex map exactly [ __ ] hell yeah like Forex map of Heroes of mind and Magic basically oh yeah yeah that's true that's true yeah so what's happening here that guys really fleshed out their end game and I mean like really fleshed out I think it's much more interesting at least what you do here what do what you he in the previous game the game would end up in end game which would be the atlas of maps and it's a mechanic where you want to run through content all the time and there needs to be some kind of additional progressions so because they have by the way they have their own skill three as usual the the player

skill three which is this our favorite skill three Jes it by the way got simplified a little bit Yeah Abol live got live got removed from it so it's much more simpler but yeah not for not for the usual player but uh why not uh there's also a skill three for the atlas so what's happening here that also your outlas has a skill three which is much much less uh uh complex but still atas so Atlas is this end game uh is basically this atlas of maps which is the End Game Area okay so it's the it's it's what you play in the end game yeah the world so your quest line ends basically here and the guy tells you like run maps and stuff like that and this is how you pretty much get to the end game boss fights the final content of the game and like the hardest part of the game whatever you can get there yeah so how do you run this thing is basically you start here in your

ziger Refuge which is basically end of campaign the story kind of switches into whatever and then you have these Maps around you so let's say I completed this one I completed this one and you can see that I can only go to connecting once so from this one I can go here here here I cannot go here because I need to complete this this map so you need to pretty much eat your way through it so for instance I see here there's a boss here in s which uh which I can find through so I go here I pick uh let's say I don't know tier two way stones here I go to map device and here I insert it and I could go into the map and pretty much area has plus one to level monsters area contains a deadly map post and now you start to see that like some of these maps are different than the others because let's say the map here has balls the map here has helium the map here has nothing and so on so forth there are these like

bigger fortresses let's say the L towers are the ones that you if I understand correctly you complete the map and it reveals an area around it literally like in Heroes of mid magic 3 like looks exactly the same and then you have these like special uh buildings which are containing the like keys to the big bosses and stuff like that for instance here I have the realm gate if I would have the keys I can like go to big bosses from there and you can have like whatever kind of different things found these Maps the important part is it's infinite this goes infinite so if I go for instance here at the end of the screen you see this goes infinite what yes how how because you have all these different modifiers and if you let's say if I but I I don't have the life to complete this game you don't complete it ever okay yeah okay thank you very much for listening guys this is it yeah you don't that's very simple but but the thing is

that they have different rewards to kind of complete your character that's that's maybe the thing because my character for instance is level 69 infernal list uh you hit a level 100 kind of level ceiling that's it you can go over level 100 but it gets very very hard afterwards because course yeah I mean if you die in this game you lose experience actually so if you keep dying you stop leveling which means the content will be just way stronger than you and you know you need to change your build get better items blah blah blah stuff like that but the system is just great because and that's why I'm talking about this because there are these mechanics like breach like um delirium like bosses like what's that precursor tablets or whatever that you see here simum what I'm saying is that each of these different mechanics that they buil are previous leaks from ped XEL one so so this is three months of content three

months of content three months of content three months of content three months of content three months of content already already yeah that they translated into this game that they work into and there's also the ultimatum and sanctum league so they basically took like content from something like 10 leagues which is like 13 30 months of work basically I would say and then the base game of course Okay so this game has a giant Head Start against everybody else basically in the arpg genre because it took like everything good from P of Exel one and put it into P of Exel 2 that that's what's happening it's not perfect there are giant problems which still are I mean like Community wise giant like not that like people are kind of freaking over but end game players are freaking over I'm also freaking over because armor is kind of useless here and completely useless and everybody is now switching to energy shield and yeah don't really want to get into specifics

but everybody thought that they could play their character with life and armor based builds no they can't because armor is [ __ ] and everybody's now switching to energy Shield which literally like like this one armor here that I have in my thing which is like cost nothing can just give me instantly like 1,000 energy Shield which is just much more more efficient if I would have SP into energy like 6,000 basically so why bother with armor at least like whatever if if you want more go watch grips videos basically he explains stuff here so that's that's one big problem the other big problem is Magic find U stat on gear like Rarity basically so everybody is now specking into Rarity which means that you have stuff like increased Rarity of items which concerns the currencies and you can get observed levels of these like 500% increase on your gear which means that somebody's basically playing a pinata simulator and you are doing like desert like where's

the loot where's the loot yeah where's the loot and and yeah people are doing absurd levels and economy is kind of being inflated very heavily now like if you go to currency exchange now just to kind of give you an example yeah uh the Divine orbs are the currency to trade to uh these days and they cost 126 for like exalted orbs to get one Divine or when I started Le and like looking it was 60 it was like seven days ago okay that tells you about the speed of inflation yeah so uh everybody is basically waiting for the developers to return after holiday break and they'll like nerve stuff heavily so that's that's probably going to happen it it says Early Access for a reason for a reason exactly what would you expect to work I mean I'm really surprised some times when I read the reviews in Early

Access or bet out it's like oh this doesn't work like oh no no that's the thing that in in in the current age if you early access on Steam that's your Global release date basically and everybody take it as that like that's how it works okay fair the number of Impressions you get from Steam the hype and everything like that's it I know yeah that's how unfortunately it works but the good thing is that these guys still have a lot of content so you won't get they are definitely not star that like because even even if you look this uh they still have like half of the classes in there will be like two times more classes two times more sendes I don't know how many more skills basically like if I go into skills you could see yeah that that for instance here that all these skills for instance like X skills sword skills uh spear skills that just like basically half of the skills are not even here so they still like have [ __ ] ton of stuff to add in so content's not the problem they

will be adding loads of content the game will be by the way going into free-to-play Global release next this year they said basically between six to 12 months of Early Access so it could be somewhere between June and December which my guess will be December most probably before Christmas as as usual like as us you don't want to rush these things and they you can find to Forever why I mean why they just got some interesting money from the Early Access I'm very I'm pretty sure yeah they got very interesting money from the based on the concurrent users yeah so in my opinion the game's great still it's very great for for for normal players like lot of people are playing this in this kind of Solo solo self found mode where basically it disables trading so you cannot trade with other players you can only use stuff what you find it's still very enjoyable experience and like people I want to play this as like single player I don't really want to play literally like if if you go and um Let me let me show you so in the

character creation screen you can literally create a new character and you see like solo cell phone so hardcore means only one de per character don't do this no but if you click Soul self on this optional disables trade and party play for this character so you literally like make this game single player they have this option for people like you people even streamers are playing this like this this absolutely me I don't want to play with anyone else I started playing ped of EXA one and there was like always like [ __ ] ton of people and guys get rid of my I like no just no I don't want you here I don't I really don't want you here yeah so they they have this option here that's it's not not a problem um the let's let's talk about the microtransaction how this actually work and I can showcase like how and why it actually works so I think first game we can say you actually spend

money because you had to buy money this you had to you had to buy what you mean on microtransaction I yeah of course I have $200 here something oh really nice yeah yeah yeah yeah so you actually spend money just not on mobile like I I choose what I spend on man that's it okay research purpose yeah research purposes research purposes whatever yeah so go to the Cosmetic screen basically and this is the very important thing that a lot of people don't get because on the surface it looks like oh this game is Just Pure Cosmetics only it's not and it's definitely not it's done very very uh like smartly cleverly and they know what they're doing now after all those 11 years they very well know what they're doing and it's definitely not Cosmetics only I know what you you mentioned on the previous podcast that pay pay for comfort and just extend the stash and the but not not only that

there's like two major things that you can do which gives utility that the game can support through microtransactions so Cosmetics is just Cosmetics uh they are by the way they are by the way the I I would call them the masters of like the skin economy because what P of Exile did is basically in the beginning when my character was just this uh they would just like double the inventory uh maybe I can yeah let me give me a second I can load in ped XL one I'll show you yeah okay because what they did they started the game with like same cosmetic slots as your normal game so if we have um yeah it's loading if you have our normal character here uh of course you can change like where we are yeah so you can change your whatever head Shield whatever stuff like that so it started like that and then this is the Cosmetic screen now so

there's skins for stuff you don't even know it exist so this this started as the originally this thing and then it ended up in this monster just check how many slots there are and this is the main number one problem with cosmetic economies that when you have limited amount of slots you can only add so much Cosmetics into one slot that it makes any impact because if I have let's say an armor skin or whatever helmet skin and I will have now 300 helmet skins does it make any sense it does like why should I if I have like five or three that are like my favorite but if you add another slot suddenly I'll need to put something there and I'm going to buy it so that's what they're doing basically so they don't have just the basic inventory things they have like weapon effects which is liter like particle effect they have uh like chart skin what they were Footprints literally like the

footprints you leave behind amazing they have hip attachment character effects literally like stuff just flowing around you that's it yeah then they have flas SKS so literally these flask will have different colors they have like so much pets U like where we are yeah let's say my wet do here there we go two have pets you have even your cursor has a skin literally of course that's your portrait your frame your belt your I don't know what basically I even have apparation which is this thing that literally if you stand in place for a while it can like this kind of ghost goes from you which I think should be triggered basically in a second yeah there we go see so so they literally creating these slots as they go and they're like you never heard of these and they have like so many of this is one of the main strength of their cosmetic economy by the way also

that they have just so many slots that you didn't even heard of and you need to have something for them because it makes sense and also this is the other important thing each one of the skill effects that that are in the game have their own skins of course like you can have like I don't know instead of fireballs you can throw cats and stuff like that they literally have a skin for used used to have it and yeah it's just like done very very clever after like 11 years you get wild ideas and you need to get them because you run out of space so that's seller number one seller number two is the convenience part so if you look here and we go to the where we are uh to the not the featured but let's say yeah the shop so there are stash tabs and is the convenience part so there's gem stash tab flask stash tab

currency stash tab premium stab whatever St it's also structured like in different stuff yeah yeah so if if you look at this this is for instance the currency stash tab if I wouldn't have this I can demonstrate right now like this thing oh it doesn't even let me put into different TS so you see it's like stacks by 40 yeah so if I would want to pull this I can't on top of each other because in the normal freet toplay [ __ ] tabs the max stack size is 40 if I go to currency tab the steak size it says 40 but it's pretty much unlimited yeah so I can now have 5 thousands of these or whatever like that [ __ ] [ __ ] stpes yeah uh then the they what they

basically did that at some point it started to be like a pattern that every League they added a [ __ ] ton of new currencies that would be around the DAT like for instance Essence and they would add an Essence there so you want to interact with the newly currency like kind of you know in order and properly buy a new stash tab that's kind of spe specifically custom designed for the currency yeah even not a lot all all of these are here basically and they have like lot of them like I think like just few of them are here translated into ped of Exile 2 but I think there's like 15 of these basically in the in the main game they're also these like uh where is it quad tab is basically the tab and a size of four tabs in one these guys are super creative at this that's there and then so you see the utility here like it's just much much more better and to do everything basically way better yeah and now comes the kicker uh there are these premium tabs

why premium because if I click here you see you can still sort some stuff or like do things here but you cannot do this which is public so what I can do it's basically I can put items here and sell them to other players so if I go here let's say on pedo Exile trade and I search for an item I can pretty much directly whisper to a player to kind of get an item get this item from him like I want to buy your item for this price because it's basically an auction house yeah and for me to be able to list items here I would need to buy this premium stash tabs and this is a big difference where Diablo I basically failed horribly when they're trying to add auction housing to the economy where these guys are are basically locking the functionality of you selling not buying anyone can go there and buy it if even even if I'm free to play I can just go there but you can't sell but you can't

sell you can go on forums and Discord and sell manually basically yeah but everybody knows how well that goes yeah or you can buy premium stash tabs and then you can then index your items here and pretty much like as you said like exact price negotiatable don't blah blah blah and you you know pick the price of it that's it and then in in like 10 seconds it pretty much the API takes it and it's it's on the side on the tion because auction houses kind of destroy the arpg loop in a way that you just go and like buy the items and then like what do you do so and and by the way everything's tradeable in P XL there's nothing that's not tradable like like in Diablo like nothing's tradeable in P everything's tradeable because the whole game is basically based lot around economy and trading so still a lot of people just don't trade it all and I mean like a lot but there's this the power player and like the top top end of the players that they engage a lot with

the economy even with these like inflation cycles and stuff like that usually uh currently it's not done for ped of Exile one oh sorry ped of Exile 2 basically but there's the side that we would always use where you have like Po ninja okay po ninja where you would see like what's the basically like it's like a stock trading index basically where you will see which item cost how much in the league and you see for instance let's me pick like whatever Divine orb and you see how it inflates you see yeah yeah yeah so that that's how it goes basically in the beginning of the league because there's scarcity it's nobody has anything and then like as the currency cumulates in the economy it inflates away and so on so forth that's why they're resetting the economy every three months that's why it works if we go here again same thing you could yeah and three months is enough time to actually play and then get complete usually complete all the goals

that they do set up within these progressions because they have usually like some kind of like U skin progression that you can kind of unlock through the three month period like kill these bosses even some kind of like achievements like kill it without whatever dying kill it without using any potions blah blah blah stuff like that so they have it here but as you saw here uh trading is like an important part of the game if you play the trade league if you don't play the trade League of course if you don't but for big players and like the ones especially the ones on the ladder they are so if we go to ladder for instance so these are the people you see that are pretty much on the ladder like the top top of the top so there's one guy in the whole game that's basically level 100 and there's like a lot of other guys like level 9 behind me but only one guy on level 100 in the whole game basically in trade yeah that that's how hard it is yeah by the way like these are more hardcore than streamer level guys like

these are people that are literally like playing Ground character one one plays while the other sleeps and so on so forth that's normal that's normal if you're going for like world first 100 like you do this cycle one one one guy is's sleeping the other guy's playing of course you don't have yeah you don't have time to waste yeah yeah waste time yeah so that that that's what you do um yeah so that's basically like how these guys kind of make the systems here and why they they have this kind of currency and everything it's like how it works great for them uh because also every currency I I think this is the first time they introduce gold like this kind of a soft currency in ped of Exel 2 in ped of XEL one there's nothing like it because all these currencies are basically consumable and they help you to craft like items here for instance if I would let's say would ever put something here and like put this item it would add one more rare modifier into it because it can have six mod so on so

forth blah blah blah so all of these things you pretty much slam into the items and craft them the the big differences of course between ped XL one and two is the skill system as you saw on the previous image when I log in ped XEL one my skills are no longer on the gear and I don't need to match their colors and stuff like that this is the 10% shaving of complexity thank you thank you very much which I think is great from design standpoint because it unlocks more build diversity and more kind of easier kind of building your gear so you don't need to kind of be stressed about like I'm going to break my character because I cannot use my skills properly now so the skills are now here and all of them can be six link you just need to find the currency for it but yeah as I said okay so you still need to find the currency yeah yeah but even previously you would need to but it's just like easier but the skill three is a little bit streamlined the atlas Skill 3 is definitely streamline is like one third of it basically on skills so that's there but still the I think the where we

are the endgame system like these like this thing is is just genius because it's just base version of it I can't imagine what they will do when they like kind of get League mechanics into it because I remember when Atlas was first time devised in ped XL1 it was literally at some point later down the line it was this fight between these two entities shaper and Elder so you would literally need to like join forces with one against the other or whatever to kind of Spawn it so you would have like I don't know how many mathematical combinations of like running this map or that map or really do this and it's like super engaging and so this is their pretty much metag game layer they put on top of running the maps or running dungeons basically because in Diablo you have just like you're running the dungeons you get some points whatever stuff like that you unlock something in this progression this is much more complex and as as you saw like this is years of content loged behind all of these like like the breach mechanic here the hand

that you see here the bosses the corruption the delirium mechanic the Expedition mechanic the ritual mechanic all of these have their own kind of like setups own currency own progression there's like 10 or 15 progressions basically that you're pretty much going on at one time so that that works perfectly and I think once like all of these things will get patched and addressed and they will because they already started doing patches like day two day three of Early Access to kind of you have to yeah you have to you have to especially with this J da but I'm guessing that somewhere close like middle of January when the team returns from holidays there will be a massive patch January when the team returns from H what are you talking about what do you mean you need to work hard as [ __ ] I know but you need to return from holiday first and then you need to work on it and then I'm just I'm joking the studio is by 10 but it's not Chinese he yeah that's what I exactly that's

what that was my point yeah so in my opinion they just don't have currently a competition in arpg genre from design standpoint and yeah my guess is this is still bigger da than Diablo 4 itself like steam numbers Diablo 4 is like what like 15 20K da or something but most of their numbers is on battl net it's not on Steam it's not their platform at all exactly so is not that low of course but my guess is it's still lower than P Exel everybody's pitching about it honestly and like dropping like flies basically right after there wasn't wasn't any update that is that's worth uh worth uh playing or returning back to Diablo 4 yet yeah yeah and the thing is that this this da like uh as I said this da is if if somebody tells you like oh this is dropping do that it won P of Exile players are pretty trained that they will go play the content for like one to

two months and then they return back when the new League hits and this has been happening for 15 sorry 11 years in of XEL one and it hits alltime high just this summer so last summer I mean so it's not that like oh it's go no it's not going down it's just taking on more people actually because in this game you're not rushed to kind of play all the time liveops wise you need be here Stu it's like much more closer to something like World of Tanks world of battleships basically still the complexity you you you actually yeah you don't need to play but you need to read all the [ __ ] builds and everything on the internet which takes a lot of time you don't need to read the build but you will fail hard then yeah exactly what you say like the they actually made it a little bit better here if I go here and show you so let's say you're here and like these are let's say the these are the recommended skills I can go to all gems and like are all

the skills but if let's say I'm going a whatever character yeah these are the recommended skills for you at each levels they're yeah card rails here my guess is that they will put more and more but this is not the main problem for the game they need to solve so because you know there's like more than 500k daily people playing it so they're solving much bigger problem are syst problems within the design of the arpg as I said the arm problem the the the the Eternal problem of melee characters being worse than caster and range characters because they just need to get to the mobs which means they hit Much More Often by the maps the other characters so lot of these other issues you have the Dodge so you need to dodge the do and then you die yeah if you don't yeah yeah so yeah a lot lot of things and I'm really looking forward how how they will kind of move from this because my guess is they will need to probably ramp up the

team a little bit to kind of run all the things because there are two teams actually because originally by the way last history piece here originally This was meant to be upgrade of ped of Exile one ped of Exile one was supposed to cease to exist is this this was supposed to be The Clash of Clans World Counter Strike Counter Strike okay Counter Strike is Counter Strike is Counter Strike and everything else was just patched out and there's the new Counter Strike okay uh it was supposed to be like it it's not and I think in the end it was a very very good decision because a lot of time this is not for everyone and because they slowed the game so much with this kind of Dark Souls rolling and everything mechanic and people were used to P of Exile one gameplay of Zoom Zoom where you would literally like do 30 seconds and then you would kill the whole map let's how fast it can get super fast so people are used to it and people like this play style so they can stay and play ped XEL

one still which is still supported that's what I wanted to ask like are you going to play both or one game only of course I'm going to play two I'm just going to play two no no no the second one okay the second one I just played the first one for like 10 years and I'm like yeah it's enough it's enough like I don't know I just like I want to play the upgrade because I know that this one eventually will get better like the thing that I really like about the second one now is that it doesn't have actually 11 years of content in it that I need to care about because at some point ped XEL one have so much content in it that you literally has I said it it turned from University to PhD actually that you need to kind of like just learn what you need to progress and where now it's like no way no way for me to enter yeah exactly so now it's p of xile 2 is actually streamlined for me for you it's still like shaving just 10% but for me it's easy because I don't

need to care about that much stuff I can just care about the mechanics that I have now in the atlas 3 I'm really looking forward how they're going to live run the line liveops for this the leaks and everything even the loot boxes you can see that like most of my micro by the way another important thing they said that all of these Cosmetics you see here are from pedl one so whatever you bought in ped of XL one it transferred to ped of XL 2 Das everything one to one so all my things like you see here like like is still not yet available because not implemented into the game but it will be it will be so all of your skins everything translates into this one to one for instance footprint so I have like these submarines I don't know why they're I have it from I don't know which League was this so they're there so everything translates it's very nice of them so it really helps like and so much you know so much invest the time

interoperability there you go that's your interoperability finally the lifetime yeah there you go [ __ ] it doesn't need to be web three game exactly nice so yeah I'm I'm looking forward how this will end up because it's definitely like not saying it's going to be easy right it's going to be very rough especially on the system side it's going to be rough on like cannibalism ation front if they were going to cannibalize one and two and stuff like that uh competition wise there's not that much competition always is competition always is it's not even Diablo it's like last and like all these other like arpg games that are catching on that they like saw what ped Exile was doing from throughout the years and they like trying a new spin on it why not like that's great competition is always great exactly yeah they they need to step up a little bit I would say after like this kind of hype thing runs down and people start to see the problems that are starting to be very obvious now

and just patch them out because they know what they're doing they've been for instance the Rarity problem that we talk about they actually completely removed it from the first game I I I don't even know why they put it into the second game because it's like like you like Rarity we got the same [ __ ] again for you and people are bitching about it already like it's like everything is being inflated away like it's mandatory to have it on your gear otherwise you're not effective blah blah blah so and they explicitly said that they don't want to have stuff that's mandatory on your gear so we'll see yeah but for me uh I think now finally after all these years people will take notice and people will now start to kind of at least you mean take not no no I'm talking about the the free to-play model and the uniqueness of it like at some point I think people will start to think about this maybe even on mobile not only on PC that there are different ways how to do free toplay and you can even have

Big Spenders in this game like the spend the the skin economy and the utility economy still have a lot of spend up like just if you just take how much let just a simple example here for last thing we do so let's say never simple example in P of Exile let's see so points 100 points is $10 uh 100 points $20 whatever so if we go here and let's say the currency tab the currency tab is 75 points so it's $10 just for the one tab just saying if you want the quad tab it's double that easy so spend depth for this game isn't that low as it could see that is just oh it's just cosmetics and no it's not so you can do pay for com for free to play kind of for PC because this is every every PC player accept this

there's no power selling nothing even though we lock auction house and utility behind the pay wall it's still very acceptable so you can do freet to play also in this sense that's not a problem nice okay that's it we'll return it uh to it definitely later when an expansion or some major stuff when I start playing and then we can uh we can talk about it a little bit more no going to be in the future thank you very much for listening uh and and watching this on YouTube please join our slack channel so we can we can discuss this um there as well and uh you're up to dat on all of Over Our interesting stuff that we are preparing and since uh Felix is not here we still need to do the the subtitle sales [Laughter] person uh but it's end the end end thank you for watching this it now you know that you could have watched this with subtitles subtitles exactly so go jokes

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