Love & Deepspace: The success of Otome Games. A very heavy RPG with dating mechanics & ASMR systems

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aha aha aha aha because yeah yeah so so Sor hello yeah welcome dear listeners um hello hello my name is Mich I'm Felix roberg and I'm and we are your hosts and we are talking about I don't know love and deep space because our love for anime is deep as space there's no anime literally zero enime I don't [ __ ] care I don't [ __ ] care it was boxed already so we we were talking about we myong because Felix kind of pushed it like me a little bit but now welcome to the this episode of so V worked out makes made like 50 million so this one makes that in a

month according to so yeah which is fine shall we start yes please let's start I can't wait I'm so excited I'm so excited I can see I can see share the screen show the game today you're going to learn some stuff that you never even thought is possible okay that's very true because episode today's episode is brought to you by our partners pvx sponsors pvx Partners the simple and most effective credit line for marketing because if you're scaling your game like LA and deep space and you need funding here's the deal with pvx Partners no equity dilution you don't need to sell your soul or your company uh and you can repay as you get paid it's flexible fast and fully tyed for your growth plus you can actually secure funding in 30 days and get the term sheet in just 24 hours stay control of your UA budget without giving away a piece of your company

visit pvxp partners.com and see how they can help you so again pvxp partners.com now we can go back to this amazing amazing deep episode and again is that 8 million in a day yes it is and the classic gacha [ __ ] no let's cut the crap right here I'm going to be very Frank how this is going to roll this is going to be one of those episodes that very few people will watch or listen for those that are not feel free to live but we'll do the hard content anyway because we want to learn and we want for you to learn and this will be one this will be hard content so watch or beware from this point on you're going to see stuff that you never saw before when we're covering a game that's Chinese characters only then you know it's going to be hardcore it's not Chinese characters stop with the thing it's like calling like Asian people everyone's the same not how it works okay anyway so let's let's start uh the thing with your

knowledge base level where it starts so you we all know what Vu games are which is already advanced knowledge in this so Vu games are the games where it's usually a gacha driven game where you're collecting characters or women and you pretty much need to pass some gate checks or RPG checks whatever it's usually an RPG and yeah all the characters are women and you're a male character and there's dating involved usually or some kind of infinity system or whatever you can them whatpp groups topgirl which is the Forex kind of example stuff like Aur Lane which is the World War II battleships as girls ship girls or um musume pretty Derby where you race girls horse girls exactly stuff like that Vu genre is actually very popular in Asia exactly and this is the reverse of it and it is called a game so this is actually a game for girls every single

character is a attractive man here we go yes what how saly yeah so yeah yeah this is and the company we're talking about today is the best in class with this and it's not one game it's multiple Giant games that they run and that you already heard before and we're going to go through it so you know what's my problem with with this game is I don't think they run a lot of UA could be I'm going to show I'm to the market yeah so I guess just just so you know I'm not pulling crap like this is literally Wikipedia page so if you want to look and check everybody can write a Wikipedia page why don't we have one be my guest that's that's a very good idea actually yeah so let me just read this one sentence uh representation of women in UTA games the main female character generally characterizes either self insert or non-self insert self-insert

does not have personality and back story giving players space to insert themselves into the game in contrast non self insert characters has more Vivid personality and basically they have scripted story however in Ed of the case the main character in most autom games has a fixed image usually the game unfolds blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah yeah representation of men this is the important part the main Men characters who can develop a romantic relationship with vary from the game to game in general however the appearances of main man characters who can develop romantic relationship are handsome and attractive these are some typical character archetypes such as for childhood friend sh maor olderman dandere meere gy guy the F and the Playboy why don't you add abro why don't you add abomb and fit to that it's the same thing they're selling so basically it's stuff like this where you have these kind of charts where you see like for instance here we have the DAT types of our game that that we are

kind of looking for uh yeah here we are so yeah they are typical archetypes like cold on the outside very warm in the inside the joyful the psychopath whatever the bad boy the usual thing yeah same applies for Wu games so we were there why are we talking about this game because it makes [ __ ] ton of money uh so for last not last but December they did 41.5 but it's dying now it's dying the surface level would say by the way during its launch it launch month it is like 15 mil and second month like 25 mil so it's growing actually and it's growing because if you see this kind of curve you know what it's a good good uh gacha game exactly it's a good old gacha game because gacha game works on these Revenue spikes which are the introduction of new banners which means new characters to take on from GAA from exclusive time period And if you see that the spikes are actually growing

that's the healthy sign sign exactly Healy sign the spikes are growing and during Christmas it seems there was some great character that we actually missed um if we put on the [ __ ] filter un I unwrap this character in my Christmas gift sure there was the D the the main D there the important part it's China it's 60% of revenue from China I won't deny that it's there but but there's 12% from us which is the second biggest and then there's the usual CPO Japan Taiwan Hong Kong and Germany on yeah Germany doing there I don't know maybe Asian people even in in Germany I don't know most probably uh but yeah but then usual kind of culprit but yeah it's mainly Asian because this thing comes from Asia and even the archetypes themselves I think are a little bit more culturally appealing to Asian people so it's just how it works that's it

nevertheless the developer the developer is the important story here so if you go to the developer it's actually paper games uh we won't see paper games yeah we won't see it here as like lots of you know Asian characters basically but if we go from game to game Al what they what they started pretty much in 2016 or I think even sooner if I have The Shard here I think only La Niki is the the game that everybody should know at least is the game that everybody should know where La Niki is the game where you are basically battling with clothes gotcha so you have two girls against each other which they have style points for how however you can dress them up and these tons can Clash together and you have abilities like remove your opponent socks or whatever stuff like that it's very Innovative by by by its time it was like the game that did this and it's the game that built the studio like amazing

like you can laugh as much as you want but socks it could have been anything but I love that you use socks as the example I just remember that from in my time SP the game but these guys are cornering their own Market this is the more important thing so it's great so they started with this uh then in 2018 they went into not here but I think yeah here which is shining Nikki Fashion Makeover which still did already uh 226 million lifetime nice on 17 million downloads just saying which again if we go here we can see uh what from the chart it's dying this one is not working no it's a gacha game yes of course it's a g game of course and then afterwards they went with this title which is if I understand

[Music] correctly yeah exactly nobody knows nobody knows no no no I I know just like looking at the characters need to find the right icon not this no this is the one I think this is The Shining Nikki and then the other one is yellow one is uh or maybe this the other version of Nikki so basically what they were doing like the main point I'm trying to tell is basically that until um no where we are until December 2023 they were all doing 2D stuff that's oh no this is this is I think the one this one doesn't matter if we so if you look at for instance this game which I don't even know how to translate because they don't they don't have like a English translation like evil times love or whatever it's basically very similar to what we playing today to in deep space it's just

in 2D you see yeah so a lot of mechanics that we have there is just like fully 2D it's like M maple story yeah Maple Studio it's almost like it's similar story it's similar story like they took their Niche took their genre like they polished it for last like 12 13 years and they know what they're doing and they're just like continuing to build up uh and then we have the big bump here which is love and deep space which is the first full 3d and we'll get to it because literally the game looks like cinematics from final fantasying Lally like the surface visual if you don't know what you're looking yeah there Final Fantasy there's like cloud with the giant long ass sword and stuff like that like where where he where is he yeah yeah yeah totally that's literally how it looks and then you have the last game by the way which we talk a little bit on the podcast before which is infinite Nikki yeah infinite Nikki is actually a game that didn't talk about a lot they had the giant launch with 10 million uh down 10

million Revenue in December and it was this kind of um where is it I think here it is yeah this open world kind of genin style game for girls where there's no combat so literally imagine a genin style world where you're going around doing activities but there's no combat there's like Puzzles there's rcd stuff kind of levels stuff like that there's flying this literally looks like genin but just without the combat and for girls yeah and this was again completely crossplatform you know PlayStation and so on so forth so big launch but still uh even though this is coming from the Niki brand didn't cut the thing as our handsome guys here which scaled in December to 41.5 million and uh I don't think so they're going to be stopping anywhere soon yeah just go to downloads and you will see yeah so so here we

go oh wow no the thing is that this is like half a million a day something in the beginning of like last year now it's all like 10 yeah 30k 20K you show me the attention on this it must be crazy High um it's just that you game SC Asia work a little bit different CU you play on desktop and you play a little bit on mobile or uh yeah you can't you only and China will be way different retention yeah how do we get to China you don't you don't yeah I don't think you have China there can you type in China I don't think so no no no you can't maybe if you select the region southeast Asia oh wow yeah okay it seems It's Working yeah better yeah so 7% day 90 does does that fit I would say it's way more than that yeah seems so 56% day

one definitely yeah uh so just saying this is the company that's pretty much cornered this kind of a like female driven market and the demo is also very interesting to look at because it's young girls it's very young girls see see the chart here is like 86% female and like every jge is 26 even though the group of 50% is under 25 yeah yeah yeah so so you see how the [ __ ] is this making so much money then hm how is how does it make so much money then you already got a job at that age what do you mean oh yeah but and keep in mind this is very the other very important thing people in Asia are single Fair people in Asia are single there's like 40% of people in Japan in productive age that don't have a partner because like their kind of relationship thing works a little bit different like here and they're like in the very steep like demographic decline because people

don't get into a relationship they going end up in this like culture of you know too much work not having enough time so they go for these like very quick fixes which are stuff like this or like you know the host clubs or what the usual thing we you know we always go to Tokyo in the walk and like you see all the banners and stuff like that it's like completely normal in their culture I have never been to Tokyo so I have no idea what you're talking about next time you should come with us finally next time yeah one time next time anyway just saying it works different in Asia and this this kind of complements that culture like this complement that culture it's it's normal fair enough so uh going actually to the game itself finally finally finally what do you mean just 50 minutes history lesson that's that's worth it no it's fine of course it's good it's really good yeah yeah so um not sure how I feel about this but okay man just wait until get to breeding function wait yeah yeah just wait wait just wait just wait yeah just wait man it's going to be like really it's going

to escalate really quickly from here on yeah exactly exactly what you expect yeah so how this thing works um so you start with the story thing keep in mind that this is coming not from a studio that's interactive novel based like chapters or episodes or like the me but they have it as the core and they actually evolved it because it's not you know stories or chapters but even if like main thing how to play the game is to go through the story and these are basically your chapters if you go through these chapters it's basically a CGI movie like the the pages in your chapter screens those are basically a CGI movie so if you go somewhere real short real short just is real short for sure let's go to one one episode I'll show you and uh it's very very comfy very interesting think I think it's done super super well

I haven't seen anything like this in the west ever yeah no no it's never going to be made I think yeah anyway so just imagine the controls like you just kind of I have it by the way on [ __ ] [ __ ] graphic difficulty because it keeps crashing I had to you can go like super high detail and you can you can fry your uh your your egg on your phone exactly important thing you can do auto so you just leave this on and it pretty much literally plays now on cinematic you don't even need to click you can increase the speed it's uh fully narrated so I can't I can't hear [ __ ] so thank you very much for you're glad for that you can even read if you want yeah it's in English it's in English you can again yeah it has to be it has to be 12% Revenue in the US man I told you yeah so and and then then it's all basically from the female character's point of view and you're going through this different situation the story is a little bit uh like crazy to my thing because it's just like you're some by

the way you you can only be a girl of course no no other way of course I me my that's my default pick yeah by the way the customization menu was the like the deepest customization menu I ever saw it's literally like you have five or six Chang to yeah yeah yeah yeah like I know but you have you have like six options to finetune the pitch of your voice yeah nice not different voice like just fine-tuning it yeah yeah yeah uh that's what matters yeah that's what matters so they they're doing it very well so see this was like one of the cinematics we can go a little bit more let's go a little bit more unicorns unicorn where you want to go to unicorns first un okay I think that's that's my captain telling me that like how stuff works in the in their army so there's some whatever super Hightech civilization and like it's being uh attacked by some wanders or whatever like portals open and

creatures come out of them and we need to hunt them down blah blah blah [ __ ] so that's that's there so there's there's definitely some kind of sci-fi fantasy thing is is usual uh and then these guys are basically all helping you the characters from the game they're just five of them like just five of them and you meet them all through the story and they all again are through these archetypes like the bad boy the you know the warm guy the whatever the cop or doesn't matter yeah and the link police police LinkedIn police and they again they interact with you and you know you get to know them blah blah blah the important part is that this game basically has three cores so this is the first core we're looking at this is episode and choices which is the interactive Noble stories it's I think a little bit less interactive that I'm used to with like chapters and episodes like less clicking of options but still there are options a

little bit there are options then the other core uh yeah I guess we didn't really fo the one where there's actually like talking with the character here but we can get to that later but yeah let me show you the the other core yeah don't don't don't need to like into so this was the interactive story story based C like visual novel yeah uh then in between and this is the stuff where it's mind mindblowing uh there's um got RPG combat so literally think stuff like uh uh solo leveling gise that we did or Felix's you know favorite Z on zero zero this is where Zeno zero basically happens okay so you put up your characters uh you have your two main characters that go this is me and this is my companion basically these are the elements of the enemies that I need to match stuff like that the characters and

the gacha uh tokens that taking are memories of the characters I'll get to it this is very interesting and we basically go in and the biggest mind [ __ ] is the game turns landscape o always you can't like do that basically game goes landscape for comat what's up with for combat okay cool what's up with the ping pong balls on the loading screen does that mean anything no just visual there's nothing but it's literally the game goes landscape and there's no other way to play the combat so uh good news is that we can have the autop play but not in this chapter because we took like a stage that's not unlocked yet but yeah I can at least show you but it's basically again the same as literally combat as like um Z Zone zero or solo leveling a rise or whatever uh and you have like abilities with your

partner again we can try see like he did some kind of move there uh whatever is like not not really a hard stage anyway and I switched from pistol to a sword I'm surprised it has combat in it right man it is so much combat it would be like like I was like really girls do play this much combat like this is second game this is like solo leveling your rise style of like gacha heavy Combat Action combat RPG in it this is the second game you're already there and there's one more in it so you play these like short sequences see like all like fully fledged super attacks abilities everything like it's not that deep as like solo leveling oriz or z l zero but it's still deep and like you see all the usual anime stuff there so it it's very good like don't get me wrong it's more more working as like a stat check if your characters have enough HP and damage to kind of continue with the story that's there CU there are many

gating mechanisms here but they have literally like this is the second game now that that they build into it and then comes the third one which is the most important one I can I can give you a guess what what that one will be any guesses no the dating core ah of course Jesus so much options for dating so if you are not building your characters or going to the story like there's a lot of these like literally date mechanics that you can do with the character because it builds their Affinity Affinity unlocks new stories new relationship blah blah blah blah blah so we go to photo studio and again as I said only these Five Guys for the whole game no other love interest characters and they have it done very smartly regarding the gacha Stu because how can you go gacha with just five characters and they did it they did it very well I think so you have these Five Guys let's take

for instance zann and you can go and pretty much do a photo shoot with him and again like choose everything like all these like in first photo there will just me two of us him this background that backgr play around with this for so long yeah you can play around share it on Instagram whatever do like all the you know party stuff the the usual thing so like imagine the photo boot that's on weddings so like it has even more options than that so that's there so that's just one activity then you can have then there's uh the other activity which is like I was like really I've never seen this one so just wait until it loads so there's actually an ASMR stuff where of course there's ASMR stuff there's this thing which is by your side and what we have here secret times which I don't have unlocked because of course my relationship with Xavier is not that high but if you go here into

tender moments there's literally podcasts of these guys talking to you and you're just listening to them is it real voices like voice actors or is it like I would guess so like this is not AI definitely like it takes a lot of kind of so you see here at the bottom yeah like literally like and there's like a lot of like noises and like as I said ASMR stuff not just talking voices so that's there just one thing what they have here um then we go and we have the falling for you which is the most important part this is literally the dating part and like doing the relationship part where you go and do some kind of different things for instance here if we go there so I for instance make choices in this because I said have you heard like I I basically had an option to stay silent to do some lame ass joke yeah and I did the lame as joke and leads to this and then the guy whatever I'll show you how it how it

looks but there's so much options like there's must be an army of people working on this game literally Army I I can imagine less than 300 at least even in China I mean if Block Plus has 150 right yeah so many so many features and like so wild features uh so again see we are with the character we talking with him blah blah blah blah blah again we can I think the only thing I'm missing here is the speed up option cuz I I don't think they they just have to like I mean like skip option like to the next one yeah this guy is actually some kind of frost Mage and he he he makes like a seal for me what because in in in in her childhood he gave her snowballs because they were to some aqua Park and like whatever story yeah you can then put this the seal that you get from this you can they

go and you can decorate uh and use it as a Furniture in your furniture setup with him come on yeah um yeah I think it's yeah here Lally an option menu that's called with him so not this guy we change the guy how do we change the guy no no not this one here change the guy there's my seal right there it's interactive see like it's to the Limit literally what what they did here um yeah let's go to the interesting part gotcha this is the money maker yeah the money maker oh yeah uh so this is their current Banner by the way so how this how this basically works is that this is the base gacha uh the one that stays forever you know there's typical PT in 60 PS you get five star character the base character on what are the characters by the way even characters

are memories of these Five Guys so each character is basically related to one of these characters and it's a memory and you use them in battles as you saw to give you stats and kind to use them but on the other hand also each memory unlocks the guy's kind of story progression intimate whatever relationship stuff so for instance we have this this guy the the pilot guy and yeah just don't have the memory pair to upgrade him not enough shards from from his next thing but still like I can Ascend him blah blah blah and so he is like a lot of stats you see HP attack damage like girls game and it's like very heavy RPG so and you get these uh per usual from the gacha so we have as I said the the normal gacha then we have some wish list GAA they have like a lot of mechanics here to kind of offset the randomness with the wish Le and stuff like that we cannot do 900 and this is

the limited one which again ends up in three days something where there's like some they even have running some kind of event where you're interrogating these guys somewhere and there's some yeah that's yeah I was show the creative yeah some some cative [ __ ] basically yeah so and all of these guys are pretty much like memories of these yeah precise wish where whatever yeah so they know what they're doing here pretty much girls are falling for this and then there's very massive kind of event setup as usual where there's your main event the event lineup with all of these things that they're doing like daily Supply whatever follow us join us Social Media stuff that is the the accompanied gacha event where we Lally have the torture room with the guy and there's by the way some kind of a mini game again like I was like super interested like wait what yeah there's

so many so many ads Felix like this is this is AD Dr or not see so yeah they have a lot of different things in this game do you think Americans are playing this or is it like Chinese people living in America no it's you're in denial that's called denial yeah yeah this just so foreign to me different thing to you know right I'm in the minority I know I know you play games for EDS man yeah can we do like a Ric game guys like Ric yeah yeah let me let me finish so I still haven't haven't reached the end so Jesus Christ there's also a Chad God help us there's also a Chad of course which is like fully voiced fully everything you can by the way recall in the chat there's like recall function and you are are they sending dick pics to you no no not yet I think I had calls

from them like from on mobile and uh they calling you okay and you you have like a rewind function that when you have an option like one of the out of three you can return time back and select different options that that's that's quite interesting um then they have oh yeah this thing where you can literally like pet him the guy as he's sitting there and I need to wake him up because last time I think I wasn't able to do it because you can actually talk to him and don't know if I can get sure what you are doing yeah I'm not yeah I'm I'm I'm neing him yeah because you can go to not phone ah sorry sorry here it was the chat chat option yeah there we are so you can go and just like be with him because there say like relax time uh

quality time listen to his heartbeat wow uh ask him for a food recommendation which is on cool down currently I already did that today and then you can get closer to him and has literally like hold to breed button where there's like yeah I know so it's basically tamag Goshi but with uh with a male great way of putting it very good way of putting it I think it's like a very gacha heavy yeah Asian gacha heavy GOI yeah the shop itself is also super robust per usual like you know not really anything that they're missing there out of everything they pretty much have there from outfits to actual you know currencies to actual like materials specific specific characters in this case memories that you can buy directly or I don't know like 20 different

currencies like I'm just getting lost in to be honest and there's by the way here is the battle menu like this is basically the the like Red Shadow legends that like Bounty Hunt de space TR those are like all are pretty much designed in order to get get more resources to level up the characters and that's it just like you go there you fight and you spend energy and again we're in the fighting thing again so girls are fighting a lot like you still spend a lot of time in the battles it's not just story but I think I would say it's like one four of a time that you end up battling one one one third of a time you probably end up reading the story and then I guess the maintenance of the whole dating mechanism takes like more than half it's just like so massive so that's there and this is making yeah 40 mil a month easily yeah it seems we multiaction user base again just I'm curious

yeah 13 million not bad wow bigger than I thought yeah I would say half of it but yeah 60% is is China yeah show me the creatives it's very unique very unique creatives being able to put together these three cores like it takes a lot of skill yeah this this is this literally took them like 10 years to do this properly in order to why that's why Century games is doing that yeah yeah that's exactly because it's pretty much again like the hell divers formula like those guys were making the same game for last 14 years these guys again are making games for the same market for last last 13 Years or or whatever dramatic Zoom yeah dramatic Zoom yeah but it's super interesting like the mechanics that they are doing here I think again similar to Wu games it's coming to the West just even more slowly than the Wu

games yeah just trying jeez how do you do UA for a game like this is it actually Performance Marketing or is it more brand marketing both in Asia there's lots of what do you mean brand marketing what like you know like the with take over malls and buses and P way let's pay way way let's pay way like let's pay way there's nothing else it's like uh you have um influencers people can call it whatever they want as an organic [ __ ] or whatever retention engagement it's Pay Way full stop anyway so let me just just do this you know how do you do pay do you see did you see the maple studio and chapters and real short and Top Girl [ __ ] hell like this is exactly what they should be doing all of

that it's it's it's insane and this is what they're doing wait Maple studiio should do this or what yeah they should they should be doing this is just like few Clips there's like 10 like 10 pages of of creatives it's nothing it's nothing it is is just really shallow it's deep space but not not not even close not even close this is what basically cinematics yeah kind of yeah exactly few cinematics like this a little bit of drama and that's it yeah this is the bad guy didn't unlocked yet yeah and I mean there's I I'm pretty sure in China they have way different different creatives but it's only see cinematics like

this basically almost everything from the game right because oh this is this is an interesting uh yeah choices H it's also voiceover is Chinese this is we saw yeah they're running a lot of um event based creators basically exactly yes exactly exactly this was I guess whatever whatever stuff they're running in the gacha they're putting in directly into the creatives because they have the CGI of it anyway exactly exactly but you know see all 23 sorry 23 it's it's Facebook molo appin integral Google some like immobile LIF of interesting but then YouTube obviously with this you think there's just like much more creativ that we don't see because they're running them

on China networks doesn't track you know that indiia then maybe much more robust you don't see but here look doctor yeah this is the doctor guy yeah now he's prisoner he's the same guy yeah that's it hello love the space free rewards we saw yeah it's the same thing it's the same concept but different visual we have yeah pilot you mentioned that as well and that's yeah here we go where's the interrogation I think it was somewhere in in the in the menu here it's but you check the times of those creatives they completely Chang the creative strategy with the gacha yeah all the creatives are basically all are colliding with the gacha release yeah yeah it's first like 13 like 11 days

ago day it's it's all all within the the Goa but that's I'm come on that's not the UA strategy with this type of I mean revenue I don't think like they're spending more than 10% of that and that's I said quite I thought would be quite a lot with but there's not that many man the thing is that there's not that many auta games that's the thing there's like no alternative to this sure but does that mean there's not a big they could be better of course of course they could be better not saying that just saying that they don't probably have competitor they have what do you mean they don't have compet like all other choices and chapters and all of this interactive story they they the competitor no no choices with RPG heavy combat core not at all where do you see the RPG heavy combat core in the

creatives no no it's the it's the same audience it's still oh not maybe not exactly same but it's still still going to be the same audience there's overlap of course I I take that I take that back yeah yeah and then here we are why are there no top girl AI style creatives or real short or whatever is just it's insane M they they should be absolutely it's uh it's a no-brainer for me even if you go to app it's almost nothing there it's all all banners it's like like who who the [ __ ] run banners on on appla you ran guys in the free it's like yeah you see it's it's not really evolved at all and it should be it should be way creatives yeah different angles like we just talked

about it on the the V mayong they they had 700 pages when app me they have free me seriously and only banners no playables nothing it's a shame oh maybe they have sorry no it's an interactive story basically yeah exactly yeah there you go there you go yeah so then that comes back to to what I just said it's it's it's kind of competing with the with these and you just check what what chapters has look chapters there you go all the channels everywhere oh wow wait a second I just don't want to see yeah see one second let scroll down 120 at yeah 120 at least so it's can can you give me the the if if you end can you give me the

there you go it's there's not not that much there and uh yeah this is the revenue chart last 30 days so there are these guys then there's some tenson stuff which is 2D another NY stuff which I guess we have chapter there there you go yeah this is basically the same game just not 3D so they have they have the edge that they are 3D and no one else is probably and then there's chapters and the usual back exactly right after them so but no one is 3D yet it this even written in the Wiki page that like in 2024 the first 3D automa game yeah yeah okay so they just they're they're just on the edge because of the tech and like everything they have there which is great but you use that better but they're wiping the floor you see they're wiping the floor of course it it is a lot of money huh this is just a matter of time before it will make a billion right so yeah as a company they are already there almost yeah there's also by the way if you go down downloads there's there's actually a game that makes even more downloads but it's still like very low number here

maybe it's Aden it's defit the Aden oh yeah it's like whatever this is there's no Revenue Trail Crime Story oh some Crime Story stuff that we can look at later I guess yeah very interesting if it if they're pulling that much downloads like I guess oh yeah um yeah but anyway um I'm just glad we get this one off our chest because we got a lot of like U suggestions for this game I also interes this really good to cover yeah so quite fasc we don't we don't always cover the stuff that is you know trendy and popular here in the west we cover the stuff that's also trendly and popular in Asia yeah it's we learned what did you learn today how you tell the reverse of a Wu game game game all right yeah games good okay you want to

take yeah yeah uh if anyone got here and I think there will be very few of you I guess less than Magnificent Seven write Us in the comments for all the other games that you want us to cover that are very Niche and that probably only you know and we'll definitely look at them because we want to learn also and uh yeah by doing some of these podcast we also learn a lot we just don't want to cover the same stuff all over there so no ratings for today uh but for me 9.5 like hands down of course for 9 9.8 for me 1.5 zero I'm can't even grade it there's no ads so yeah so thank you very much for for listening it's uh as you are at the end of the episode uh leave us a comment so we count all of all five of you and then Jo join the select Channel we can start the group yeah yeah yeah enjoy the S Channel and uh yeah see you there okay thank you

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