2016 trends panel at Pocket Gamer Connects London 2016

republic that king and now heading up a new mortgage company calls for consumers hi I'm they've got the novelist but I work your Japanese developers this a Harris comfortable I wonder Japanese developer called side but of Lucy website brewery out as a gay joke stretch and focused on my name is Tom I am I Sierra Latimer my the CEO of resolution games now we focus on making your games are working with more body games with that 17 years I'm such a three-time crashing the panel as well I'm from a mini clip I'm the chief question officer there and we wanted a kind of big web portal companies and moved into mobile quite successfully and somebody might know are able pool and 4 2015 Acharya if you make that hey I've

been in mobile games as well hello games Romeo as a teen no pressure there's a monument oh okay so so I'm very question I'm kind of making frantic so first of all let's say like Paul came on stage m7 tearing them did really well and then the mobile games markets work like someone or 4 30 billion dollars which seems like it um especially the biggest part of games in Sicilian of the biggest growing so I think the question is how happen again and as a slight question we sail cinema games now they've been billion dollar games sort of safes are between half the machines don't have them gungho such etc I mean there are people saying we can mount em Billy diagnose Liliana and half of the guys it's and slush said the next things neither Tambor leaned on the game so the first question is have been callousness

together and have been engaged in individual games you know man human being on the hard to say right I mean Clues you ever plan um can I get to several trillion who knows but there's any Englishman any part of the games industry can actually have a 10 million daughter game that would be more then it just was it has a fundamental right things can actually spiral virally out of control in this in this industry which they really can't in any other part of the game and say I think one of the questions like what's then going to a game look like this I think it looks fundamental quite different to some of the things you see right now you're probably going to replace another service maybe a messaging service or some other social service out there social out there in order to get to that point you basically need to take on another type of competitor than candy crush or a clash

of clans or something like that in order to get to genuine in order to mark okay see anything tax that would go so I ok Oggy Oggy so I'm here and in 10 big of one time a year no I may see Neil Young tennis every country we're here with 10 billion dollar gave us some of the franchise's might be 10 billion dollars already yeah yeah there's that straight afford anybody is deafening them but do they go to the moment that's the keep your money happy when they come you've any other work a better plan what are the things we all drank Chris probably some of us don't realize the value of an axe actually adds can provide very very good and ready to import or tenders now and there's some developers out there who don't even touch the grocer charts won't pay a very very little just really so yeah definitely we will want to be right that's funny right go answer you go you go the template doors at all is that you're breaking great what you go

another thing that we can have a 10 billion dollar games i guess the bigger question would be like i said should we have in 10 million a year dollar Wow OIC just don't you how to burn on my tank okay furnace well I think there's two friends so first of all we have about two billion people on the earth now wait a smartphone out of seven and I definitely think that all those seven billion people except really small babies will have a smartphone so so there's still a lot of growth potential at you in many ways more ways to learning and I see definitely in need of these kind of social global it's that cannon crushin and cattle towns have become people love to talk about him and share it with a friend so we'll see to see this trend of enormous it's from a very few number of companies I think I'm

hoping a meeting okay share a bday Robert okay so now what are we having for games for me to do realizes obviously the only day one is not what really public lashing times has done in someone's in candy roses happy but no one's really made that global here yeah yeah where your honor just donated in hospital so I think when you know there's a company out there that can we take forever audience Japan Korea China the Western market then we started to see that so you would start together I was also going to kind of point to the various untapped reasons that still have kind of an off-road potential i also want to be slightly boring and kind of read back in and actually say that like I'm more fascinated by the opportunity to emit a developed I think home five smaller developers of smaller games like there's a lot of competition market is very kind of crushing me difficult right now but if you can find your niche but you don't have to make a time to heal delegating to make an exciting interesting product for you know your

initiative of users and I think I one of the things that fascinates me is that there's increasingly likely see interesting ways to reach those users as well you know to make sure that you're delivering an interesting experience to people who are going to change today and that to me is slightly more interesting than you know a game that makes a lot of money I can't be more interested in delivering you know like interesting experiences that kind of tailored to your audience or two to the Gator they want to see ok ok no way well as you're giving way and i totally agree because they exactly what we're focused harmed in albert we're not trying to refer the promoter ones that have enough distribution and everybody knows all really afterwards played them before this one the next go down because there's a tremendous amount of great culture out there that deserves to be promoted somebody talked yesterday about the world's smallest bottleneck on the App Store and Google Play Store drums

and I think game journalism has never been as needed Ellis's now to hear up today the game shows we've never made it we have to find those games there's a lot of really great game pack each other that will never reach the top chart but still need stools an audience you know I'm so with you little bit those are the lot to ask you about how 2050 was going to be the year of medical everything to get more seriously makes began to add more depth it did not happen I mean it seems like the games that would top the chance to 2000 for me still wants on the charts 2015 me I work it's jay and john reynolds at the inside of a judge on male enhancement for your status is Magic koshiba did you see that happen the games are getting more we'd call or what was actually still the casual audiences that's making you can't you touch me a little bit yeah and I think I mean that like obviously the Japanese market is slightly different like that the ratio of what we call kind of casual

games to two maybe more in their strategy style games is slightly different in Japan but I think also I could say that there is this market of you know in call came so I can you know afford didn't concrete kind of sustained their existence justify their existence on a logical lower like revenue scale and I think also as you were saying earlier like the rankings the grocery rankings don't always tell the stories i mean i guess for maple games they're probably more effective because mikkel games their revenue is probably driven largely by now at transactions but you know one of those kind like you only need small audience a loyal audience to make enough money to reinvest in the game to keep making interesting for the audience like you know if you're important you don't necessarily have to kind of dominate the global market I'm good I'm just in my vehicle what's your game we cook ladies I'm right on Yankee revealing its way it's the what we call accessible record but I definitely

believe that milk or gates are coming quite strongly and if you look at the top charts and there are a bunch of new games on the top 25 top charts on iOS US tour to compare to a bunch of those are meet Corey before John robic star wars against out in front of Marvel occasion or something up so you just compared the casual games will always be there there's always going to be kind of the need for their existence and those type dating experience but adding up those late players is something that is happening and party populating its own territory we can expect up to I think one of the things that casual games did really well in hand smartphone thing north part of that is is get to the first time in years like people who hadn't played game before in me life well this is a fascinating way of spending time and a lot of those gamers will transition over to two more core experience so the stores our way with something that's

super simple and then they want to play longer more engaging things Oh keep on sending okay but also like I just finally see that with Nintendo moving into mobile games we don't know what they're going to leverage their b6 and brands yes manases let's not make stagger disappear it's really out on things like they're doing kind of what the most talked-about comes with the social social aspects and replacing of the messaging apps and that's their first take on it see what until March rose economy and all the big guys disclaimer is it a happy game developers are in a pattern goes great impression how do you guys making mid-core game Jeter came from just about that they kind of value in the market and I had a recent conversation I was dealing with some friends and we totally got any friends was talking about games and how expensive sports okay and then someone sat down and gave us a number of how much he thought it was gonna cost which fuels or suffer going right okay

oh look i gota figures from different parts industry and i letting me how to be string a paper from my beer it is makes one fifty five hundred thousand dollar budgets but the guys wanna play seriously talking about five million dollar table space is that is that the right right we have a cost something to play a mobile game space now thanks what you were made under go actually okay 05 meter long I thought is a lot of money like we struggle yeah that's a lot of money I think let's be realistic it depends what you're going for interns and ad-supported model or dinner model we exactly what we're saying in Japan you can kind of get away with that we had a hundred thousand da you with a good audience that is converting world yeah you can make very good money to justify or turn on our investment but it's actually more that many games single games and make more than 10 million dollars in the child show that's me I come in sir

it depends upon you with me it's cari a good five million it's a big number right but then if you look at all how do you define make a game Stello stay toasty because primary you I wasn't even like a yoga school yeah like this is at the point where you submit the app story no I do is I TTYL think it's running overtime excited i know i know several games like it being like teams of 100 people yeah and if you one of those over over over years you start adding that up on their sudden five million is reasonable naturally those games need to be quite successful to actually sustain that what I think they raised about you I was thinking that you know you go out who got so you can challenge the paper for voice but I hate to say that you need to put down five million in order to achieve some success but that's not the case at all so what is a minute booking forever so the way I see that I

like historically i had much more success in keeping beating really small a few people and then roller have longer calendar time in order to finish and the smaller team you have the longer you less the cost will be much more efficient to make something happen so I mean if you don't have a big lighting unless your game is successfully over they already have a fight it's very stupid investors but also they interesting to talk about not only the hospital's keen to actually cost going to be different depending on how much you actually pay for the people who are doing the work but the typical range of said I start hearing more and more is probably around 10-15 people going for a year maybe a bit less maybe a bit more and then hitting the status is beeping is that it depends who the

people are and where they where they are they fun stuff going on bobby probably I would say I think we've concessionary mr. wanna talk guys what I'm like um eSports is a big big deals it's one of the new life seems like they are minimal going to be very exciting um wait wait to see mobile thing in certainty sports of CM call the star he kind of had get to grate she's got very morning one side now clash Royale which also on the other side so like this you know it's mobile God being part of playing sports is useful to competing this year I definitely think so it's it's just a matter of time you're going to be a lot of me from the traditional gamers a lot of them have pcs but we're seeing a lot of new market where where these days not such a big market for those is one of the areas where eSports can be a really thing yeah I mean it's about stop providing the white content I mean I'm

Dario for instance it's almost watch things on YouTube and million subscribers within like a few months of launching yet because people love to do let's play videos bro there's an e sports teams in between the English much is playing guard so you know we have a mobile I don't see why we had featuring that Bushman content to them then it can happen but I don't think good it really depends on the level of quality and skill were quite a very small requires a lot of skill from the gamer and that's what people would watch by disagreeing that and I think like them one of the key things about stuff like eSports if you don't do it if you haven't done it you don't know you don't understand why other people do and so it's difficult to predict what the oh I why white people watching why do you playing these games like shortly I don't think this game so like it's not going to be a 10 minute mark webber all you know games will be 10 meters i like it i remember on the way home on the train once in two-parent like this a kind of

genre of TV shows late at night or very minor to each other yeah what the south so it actually there to show people playing pachinko have you ever played the demo it's like fruity paralyzed and it just goes right 305 there's a whole genre of of TV shows and people like the screen like just shows a low dreams going around at somebody else playing through machine which like requires almost no skill and I was only on the gentleman some guy was watching his eyes fun I was like oh my god like you know that there's there's a huge market for people watching any kind of ah crap on their phone so like you know the sport is absolutely my buddies who has the sixth video that when your phone to the left empowerment right we were just okay oh excuse for a second operation so top got you wanna go through so this is the other thing which is panic like the analysis is the art thing I don't know anything about happens breaking in space but um you know obviously my dress is now being out pre order to the panel you despite this astronomical cost exceeds sold out only but still a moment is give

er it's this google cuddle but those are the system's Bay the moment and that they are just points down so how how Central's you see mobile into the building should have sent to mobile games sorry no system all right well I think a lot of friends are pointing towards mobile formal and so I'm very excited pug of mobile V or for many different aspects that one is the price point which is extremely much more attractive obviously then then what we have on TC and puzzle now but I also think it's very important to say that Joe this we're starting to see vr hardware right now but this is super super early days and I don't think 2016 will be the year of your it's the year when V or is starting to happen and

it'll take a long time when we're mobile was when I am morning the late 90s two times to resume work and and when was it what we also a merry I don't think fiora will not take that bone because a lot of the things that was preventing a pregnant was payment mechanism and and those things that now is more standardizing and is actually working that's right so today you know it's always about the reach right how many I'm going to keep looking dress you know invest money into developing content for a platform it's important with the Abenaki without this I think you know Sam so we went in there in a big way and now you know address the problem to some degree I also don't think that everything will will eventually be we are right i mean everyone's money interest but what I've seen you know just following this over

the last couple years is that it's a different kind of content that you need right here basically you know the initial aids you know and make the stroke right with you you measure the frame rate right and French the second right when you put a gear on it's basically its GDP time to puke right because they are so much content is completely disorienting and yeah you know it's not regular these first-person shooters they did initially and we are just don't work right now I think developers in order to develop for that and coming up with some really interesting titles I've seen some stuff maybe in the positive space which is amazing I had which is really immersive way basically you're drawn into it and you you know in 15-20 minutes from there without any properties right so it's the type of content but again I don't think if everything's going that way so yeah any state echoes and things of said Harry the departed I I'd like to add is based on an individual level life the minute

you sit down you put one of these Darth Vader helmet on head it's kind of like i would i would assume that the expectation level for that experience is quite high when you sit down you make that effort you disconnect yourself from a real world you're into this this voyage this other dimension you you won't have full experience so I do believe more in the main core hard for me to play the place with rebuilding different number yes we are with recreating in mobile but I do expect that the Playstations to be fairly long more console level and more humorous experience the other thing is is obscene I'm not connected this is not an editorial among my company appears there's a really interesting initiative in the u.s. around this actually be our theme park called the boy grip where they makes reality with the virtual reality and how much props and stuff

that is the state news in the youtube link top so yeah it's really reason to go to use all my list just a final quarter i think it's important to to as you said it's a very different platform for from mobile the activation energy that goes on to sit down and will be our game session as it's not something you're gonna do in bus it if anything it's going to reinvigorate the console games maker Oh Sees to say you so I've got a bubbling of questions I think around a little bit but we weren't on too much don't waste anything today but I'm so I'm going to throw out just after laser bore that spoke like we've got a load or some extras if you have any questions for our panel we do we've got lots so let's chat about sat right next to you these weekends question don't worry I'll get you much by one extra Morris for the

Murphy group in Dublin we love my games in over 40 mileages this is for well-known hardly languages would you expect again to be localizing to be considered fully global the answer the question how many languages do need to localize north before global remember what I guess I guess the maybe it's a stupid answer all of them we we we we localize into one about 20 languages and it's not always the saying this it is based on who and where we're targeting I guess the the the usual the usual suspects in terms of languages would what kind of mimic and follow the recommendation from the challenge themselves okay okay thank you but it's not it's not a one-size to call an anarchist up cheers go other question is the open market you

guys I did it from forcing fish first of all thank you absolutely fantastic panel of incredible town thank you so much w so use both out of global market 10 billion dollar game things how can reach that market I mean I'm literally written victor mancine hook there that's a type of you big purchase pneus that we're looking for in terms of marking saliva how do you actually recycle marcus i totally believe that i grew through 10 billion dollar no problem get there and the global market is awesome but how are we actually going to reach them you guys big companies out there so you have that experience as a song some question that has been well we didn't actually how day as I mean it's definitely what we have getting some distribution but you know I think this is thank you more question for game developers to figure out how how you do it it's obviously social games that's gonna that's going to spread wrong it's gonna have to be important for you to talk to

your friends about being insane game yeah that's why we concentrate more math that's the core reason we do that and that's why we've got probably bigger audiences some of the locations where people aren't necessarily focusing and because people want to play that right so I think when you really set your if you said to your level like that at that level and if you're growing just when you're 30 billion dollar game whatever from that from that point on which I believe you ought to look at social it's obvious you have to look that you also need to employ be a fairly expensive thing to to create and will probably be fairly innovative I really are aiming through the roof on on that side you you ought to look at combining genres and doing doing new things before no I think

that is simplicity some unique because there's some this seven-game you from a ball anywhere in the world people to be around how to play without but he threw it into a boss people kick into a vampire so I think I think it it doesn't need to be that complicated I don't listen to get easily complex but about it so you you will have to retain players over a very very long time there's there's no nine thence will be massively massively social and those are being massively massively social you need to have certain technical aspects and really probably be met with a little bit in terms of social aspects to actually get there that's what I'm saying with you you need to you probably don't quite a production right I'll cost me two more questions so because it looked up my hair with advanced players integration thank you I'm actually

wondering um I keep hearing via every single place we are going going now they send for mobile but for me AR makes much more sense in a mobile sense and that could very well be something so so as well so how do you see vr vs a are being up coming up to that I definitely think you're right by from my mind you a or so we'll get further away from a technical point you so we'll in say five years time AR is gonna start becoming a mass-market thing whereas in VR is more about a three year thanks oh and them if you can move by New York they are very similar technologies from from some aspects calculation interface

so that's one of the reason why I'm very interested in the earth but eventually at the UC not maybe all of them to largely converge as well to some form of mixed reality technology I like holiday whatever you want increased am i calling the term has changed i tried that type of sacrificing who can totally related them so i think you're going to see interesting aspects when those two converging one thing yeah mainly we looked at that I think or whether they are and we listened some game time to be anything interesting some prototyping sessions but it's going to take a while before we clearly we're close to there being usable for the mass audience moga li like the up the early adopters people who really wanna experience that stuff but the games that we can make probably not gonna be and that's been paying as what we probably doing behind on okay i

will have fun with the closeouts we're going a little over Smith I find a final kind of question for each viewer and know if you have so one question both will either um so like put the 2016 by the predictions I mean interesting trend is gonna dominate all will happen or throw a threat to our industry always and directed no pressure your first haha sorry so yesterday will you say my dad every day one prediction for this year's of this computer year oh you can't right now no but I do think what will see this year's is zai you feel when you look at the top-grossing controversial topic I guess when you look at the top row sweetheart you see usual suspects in terms of genres you see you I'm down I don't ya I'm game I don't want to say coffee death games that's a little bit tired term I think it's all of them are really wonderful wonderful beautiful cream play

experiences all together so copycat terms is not that the one looking product I do think this year we're going to see some new type of hybrids mixtures new genres or even crush Wallace already ate it's a great example it's doing really really well it's awful on chairs good for them I think I struggle easily ask you to see yourself had a bit of a break in I will probably see that one topping the chart this year and it is something new yes really cool so late I have linked Oklahoma saying nay fatigue you know we're not providing enough new content or giving ideas you're my motivations I exist within each other's you know a lot of players are you can get that stuff for them games because you know learning lessons from what has existed for happy so presenting new experiences to the layers is going to be really important

we don't do that that's going to be your front air to the industry multiply the console industry when you just have a first-person Jew from every single publisher bear you know take equity 5t yeah I'm sprite DVR like the trick is 2016 will be a backlash a little bit for me or because we have so much expectation from from hardware developers and they're finally gonna get their hardware and their content is not going to be where you're expecting so like we might see a lot of negative press for be or when we're starting to see the first numbers but this is a long-term a go it's not going to be a big explosion okay great I mean I think I guess in terms of prediction I'm not taking any risk by saying like I see schools and I string o'toole be interesting at least in terms of that I we've taken opposite able to to bring the silence and say it's not so much by a party as like players actually getting

really into certain apps and consequently if I'm not really like you know I think there's bill off an engagement yeah it's a very exact item always a book I mean the lady's been a lot of able to show people were your pants underwraps I didn't like increasing us going increasing has been happening in the game space too and I think it's going to continue Indians 2016 now I'm going to tie back of it to first to you guys as well like a risk aversion with the budgets going up for games of the CBI's and growing up I think one of the biggest trends and risk aversion think I'm not doing those two experiences and maybe have relying on the likes of suit yourselves and kings and night vision to provide those while we need much more developers to kind of thinking mr. more more start with each other's of mommy's acting okay and finally us where these diverse so I think DD opportunity for 2016 that I see is that when I talk to my goodies that are you know until in the app store business right I a lot of

them talk about getting boy tutorial in terms of how to select accountant / water content which people go to mt for it for developers with good content so make sure you have to know your app store people really well work with them and they were promoting it awesome okay big round one thing