Zenless Zone Zero: First look! Everything we know from Closed Beta (#88)

Hy will ever do the same Revenue as ganshin but still you have another shot on the goal so that's that's really important and it's important also to say they have five [ __ ] thousand employees let's not forget about that come on let me show you one thing that that you won't believe it's here like to see like the extent of like how much production value they're throwing into it oh yeah how much how much do you think King has just to compare it King playx like some of these companies this is no [ __ ] gaming podcast 2 and a half Gamers sharing actionable insights dropping Knowledge from our day to-day user acquisition game design and AD monetization jobs we are definitely not discussing the latest industry news but having so much fun let's not forget this is a 400 a.m. conference discussion Vibe so let's not take it too seriously should should be all good hello everybody wel s number 88 my name is

Mich I'm miserable Felix braberg there you go welcome uh so what are we talking uh about today except the no so we we gotten some critique when we were at when we were at robicon we actually got some critique from uh people who actually prefer listening to our podcast okay but they don't really understand what's going on so we're going to make a better job thanks for the feedback to actually narrate and I'm going to start off this new tuna half Gamers tradition off by explaining to our dear listeners that Ma is currently sitting in front of a beach and a pool in a background and it's ne4 in Berlin I don't know what temperature is in Bratislava or B like amazing yeah 35 35 degrees outside uh on the beach it's fine that's why I'm in braa see all of mati's tattoos so I'm going to narrate so he's got a what kind of tattoo is that uh he's got the

Powerpuff Girls he's got he's got Mario yeah Space Invaders the yeah exactly Ash and Pikachu yeah and he's got this smug smile on his face that's very true that's very true we should uh yeah what are we talking about today yeah yeah so today's a Hoover special or for those who don't remember Mi hoyo because uh yeah I got into beta of their new game called Zen Z zero I I watched one video yeah I watched one video on YouTube like uh earlier today of one Creator complaining about uh not getting a closed beta access after signing an NDA as like yeah well they kicked me out blah blah blah like what like why is this like such a big deal yeah why is this a big deal because they have ads is that always a big deal it's it's all over the Internet anyway so yeah now now it is but the closed beta is quite like rare to get in that's

what I yeah you you know you need why we are not there whatever 200 hours played on H St maybe they'll love you then like I did okay I have zero see oh [ __ ] you got more than me anyway um Berlin I got negative hours so n so we are not only talking about the Z on zero we're also comparing it with other big portfolio games of the mihoyo company or Hoover and pretty all the differences why is deal yeah because every time they launch a game they Spike into 150 million a month and then they make the game makes [ __ ] Lo of money and it's pretty much they they're pushing the next generation of games regarding the crossplatform specialty they do before we start super of the East I would say better before we start can can you hear the the pool or is it

okay no no no don't worry it's not saying anything okay good okay very good don't worry okay um so before we start let's do some kind of a recap as we always like to so GHIN impact launch September 2020 with first 30 days mobile only IP revenue of 157 million and currently can you show this on sensor Tower maybe um yeah yeah hopefully and currently its lifetime Revenue should be 3.8 billion wow okay not bad so that's regarding the so for those people who are listening right now we're sharing a screen with sensor Tower with a big graph going up to the right oh man come on come on bro yes you don't need to do it always so that's G impact that was the first kind of big of those games um

don't uh forget that these guys aren't really like one or two hit wonders these the company already had like the hon Kai franchise before and honai the third is actually their second biggest game on portfolio which was launched September 2016 and all together it did uh 800 something like 800 plus Mill million on mobile only um these games are close platform as we were saying so the revenue that we are talking about is just could be you know 60% 50% we don't know how much stuff it grosses on console and PC but it's definitely big so count who owns this company and is it publicly listed no it's it's uh you know the the original name was otakus saving the world about four people in dorm creating this amazing Beast so I think it's still privately okay there you go not not bad but like you you also need to say they

have 4,000 employees 5,000 5,000 and increasing every hour we're talking there you go yeah now when the noers kind of like got destroyed so I think uh it will be a lot of lot of people switch here people switching jobs yeah so that's for ganshin impact Hong STL uh their current kind of second biggest game or let's say second biggest S4 size not not Revenue launch this year April 2023 we covered it from time to time uh its first 30 days it launched 187 million which is 30 million more than GHIN but these numbers are a little bit finicky so I wouldn't really give them that much kind of a benchmark as these games have very very spiky Revenue regarding their profile because it's completely dependent on gacha and gacha pools the the moment the new character Ares in this kind of special gacha pool there's a spike and if if you look at ganshin revenue and or honai Revenue

it's pretty much like these Spikes all the time every time they release new content like with their three-week Cadence there's a giant Spike the question isol is just quickly so they understand which of these spikes are is Kafka uh coming into the into the game which of these yeah I can show uh Kafka was pretty pretty successful um the gacha pools like the Asian system of G it means that you have let's say normal gacha pool where you have the usual characters that you can roll anytime you want and then you have these special characters which come into just like let's say once a year or or two times a year maximum and you have only that time when you can like pretty much pick the lottery there the the loot boxes in that gacha pool to get a chance of obtaining this special event character otherwise you don't have a chance so it's very limited it works perfectly it's this very proven Asian

system that all the big games have been using from puz and Dragons Monster spend [ __ ] ton of money to get this special special character which is only available in very short amount of time if you miss it then you're [ __ ] basically yeah easy that's there if you want to look more close to it maybe this this could be it uh I think the one that we're looking was Kafka here in August which is the big Spike around 11 million a day and then you see how it this is once a month there's a big spike yeah every three weeks every three weeks when the new new GAA hits it'ser Cadence by the way how much content they can dish out with every single one of the of their games like like yeah like if I put here uh genin it's it's even yeah this is actually like how Dig's Adventure looked like obviously on a very like lower

scale what we see mtip Millions these games yeah so uh thanks guys from s for having to being able to show this but yeah this is pretty much how Mi operates it's like standard uh pattern for like gcha based Asian company and it's very very kind of proven profitable um so this brings us to zenet Zone zero which was revealed in May 2022 and uh had its second close base pretty much right now as I'm playing it I think it's uh until show December 12th show it show yeah something like that and then uh the expectation is how did you get in yeah how did you did you sign an NDA so now you're breaking the NDA no there wasn't there was just a questionnaire he's not even a Creator yet that's so there was a giant question literally like 20 minutes guys like 20 minutes of like which games you play and

what do you think about those games that you play and and and which and how many times and all of these really and then like 20 different more questions wow so so probably yeah literally took 20 minutes to do it just to kind of fill it out um yeah I guess they were pretty much like taking into consideration not only that but also kind of my gaming history with their account and like stuff like that maybe so my guess is that 200 hours yeah 200 hours definitely but my PC because I have very beefy PC uh and usually I got pretty much lucky with like my configuration because they want to have like diverse configurations to see like if if it's buggy on like you know different graphic cards and so on so forth this looks amazing by the way can you press the hide button so we don't have that Google thing at the bottom yeah yeah sure sure sure yeah let me let me start in our video store because in this game you actually are the owner of a video shop see what's what is this all about why are we talking about it again that's the

question why again the expected release date for this game is again April uh and like somewhere like Q2 to Q4 next year we'll see what happens but it seems the game's like it it's there like I don't see anything that's like need that much kind of a work or whatever they I I was comparing the systems between the beta they did last year and this beta and they rework some of the systems uh especially the character progression vectors and stuff like that we talk about it but this seems pretty finished to me so I would guess this is going to release soon let's see it's not like a supercell closed beta when they kill all this is just Clos no no no it's not going to happen and and this keep in mind this is not soft lunch this is closed bet it's there and then disappears not on the store so on so forth oh why have you locked Bango six in a room no it's just like opening the door man he's so nice for me wow and I have also Bango 11 doing our shop here 18

sorry different story he's selling the thing like you actually need to match like the movies with the mood of the day like like comedy movies retro movies whatever movies I'll get to it later okay let's take a step back like what's the [ __ ] is this game about like what what what are you the story is a little bit different except it looks amazing yeah it looks amazing the story is a little bit different than your usual kind of mm RPG it's this kind of a hecky post Apple whatever Utopia something thing where there's this city called new IDU where I'm currently in is Netflix no serious no not yet um and like I'm I'm connected with these kind of agents in the different world called like Holo and I'm pretty much navigating them to do stuff and whatever blah blah blah and uh the story is again very heavy as per usual hoyo game where there's lot of dialogue lot of stuff we can actually do

some mission to kind of show like how it actually looks or so more like a GTA type of mission no no no no no actually this is the big difference between gin honai and this game it's more and more closer so gin is the only one that's like real open world action RPG like you can go anywhere with honai It's like semiopen because there's like special environments that you can teleport into and like go in there this is completely Corridor based now we're talking amazing they they actually got rid of the corridors here completely compared to honkai I'll show you they have this very interesting mini game which is the movement game they literally have the movement game so I'll show you yeah of course the usual chat that's like this still didn't kind of a go away are you chatting with like some horse girls in here no this is like I'm always wondering what his wife thinks about him shatting to horse girls like fake horse girls this is actually cat girl like n cat girl there's also a

wolf guy here in the game getting getting better of of course there is of course there is right yeah so yeah we're going to meet her so let's let's talk with I hope so yeah here she is oh she's very cute yeah of course she has pretty good abilities by the way so see okay yeah so as as per se there's like very heavy story like these guys like it's fully uh voice overed of course like I have the Japanese voice over here but yeah you can select which one you want yeah yeah like the the you can see the production values and like animations everything on this like I'm pretty much playing like Real Time anime like there's not much yeah let's go uh the other interesting thing is also that there's like different cinematics ones are like fully animated CGI the other one like these like comic scenarios so like yeah like I can't imagine like how much can men hour vend into it because this is like even more

kind of double down on production values than honai there we can go and now we're looking at animation yeah are different character so the battles here work similarly to honai it's pretty much like a segment but then it's not turnbas it's pretty much completely real time oh so sick and the combat system is very very different compared to honai because again like honai ter RPG but even with GHIN because GHIN is kind of very slow and not that What's happen frantic yeah fun yeah it looks really good actually the combat is very like combo heavy like just to stop here a little bit let me show you before R into next fight so I have like my basic attack this is just like basic attack yeah here it is if I chain it it you know creates whatever mhm see mhm then you have the like Dodge thing because this game compared to the other apgs and this is like a very big

difference there's no healing abilities you literally need to dodge stuff if you don't Dodge stuff you die you die okay very simple there's their special uh or special with kind of a boost of energy and then you switch and I count it up and there's literally 10 different abilities that you can use even though you see four buttons on the screen but they come into different context because let's say they have this mechanic that when I'm getting um hit by an mem the game offers me to switch with a different character and he evades and also strikes right into the combo o so there's like three to four different kind of a special combo combination that you need to keep up with and it produces the usual easy to andn hard to master feeling literally like I could imagine like I could be playing this for months and still have things that I would need to master just like just by finger memory Lally okay cool show some more combat so who are these people we figh see yeah so these are the agents that

the proxy is currently helping the guy you see behind the monitor he's represented by that uh whatever the guy it's not here but the the whatever creature the different one the bangalo or what was it that you were complaining so that is representation in this world and in this world there's some kind of a corruption and these people are supposed to be some kind of corrupted people or whatever monsters that's as per usual like in every like two years from now yeah something like that the enemies are kind of nameless because it makes them kind of easier to kill not really feel for so that's that's what's same in hongkai starl yeah it's very stylish very very stylish similar to something like Devil May Cry or all these like slashers it's very reminds me of the finishing moves in Tekken when you're playing the story mode yeah exactly and there's actually like a free mode just to train you the combo moves it's like it has even closer

to that usual kind of a how do you even call it like U Street Fighter whatever that what's the genre um fighting game fighting game yeah let's say we go with the cat girl so it's very frantic very rewarding if you know what you're doing even though it seems like everything is moving and you don't know the [ __ ] what's happening but it's in the end yeah it's very precise lots of the decisions actually the characters have elements and the enemies have elemental Affinity so we need to choose which one to select which and which point so on so forth so those things works perfectly and you see it's it's very very satisfying looks amazing that you can see my SRA Vu because this is a story Mission I'll show you later there W in here yeah of course I got like immediately from and got the top rity character made oh wow you think that was on purpose cuz they knew your sced 100% scripted come on

maybe maybe maybe no we'll never know it should definitely scrip use like ultimate here yeah so that was the com yob is fighting yakob is fighting all yob is fighting yeah and it looks amazing it looks really amazing looks really fun and if you want yeah if you want to see the yeah if you want to see the the fight and the scene and the battle and everything just go and check out the YouTube channel which you definely to be sub subscribed this is what I was saying so there's not only those cgis where like characters are talking things are happening there's also these kind of nice comic strips that are happening that are like as I said like I I can imagine how much kind of man hours into these things had to go I mean if you have 5,000 people in the whole company then let's say 30% is on on the on the new game which is still like but if you combine 50 companies in in Europe yeah

basically and this is going to be played on mobile and desktop is this cross platform uh console PC and mobile all of it so the only thing they're missing is browser but yeah how can you how can you play this on mobile seriously what this looks very exactly the same looks exactly the same wow yeah exactly the same how can you play it um you play the same like I I didn't I didn't see that big of a difference actually when I was playing it mobile and I was playing it on PC what kind of mobile device you have highend yeah highend don't have a problem with that let me show you like the this guy this girl can actually shoot black holes well that's what she does from the suitcase Yeah Yeah from the suitcase of course amazing it's pretty good because it bunched the mobs together and like good Splash damage oh my okay this actually looks like quite a

lot of fun but but like guys keep the thing that this is pretty much a mobile first game yeah that's yeah that's what I'm like still trying to understand so much money this is going to make so much money okay so so but what's the monetization strategy in here gacha pools and that's it basically just new cont the thing is that uh yeah now that we see a third game I can clear cly say that uh hoor is joining the ranks of Hobby and they're using their template yeah oh okay we'll go over it right after we finish this uh gorgeous comic you can press skip you know oh yeah you can yeah exactly that's what I do all the time easy yeah so yeah the combat looks gorgeous is like the best iteration it can be easy to learn hard to master very very deep it's yeah goes directly into the progression

because it's Affinity based but yeah let's talk about the monetization so um yeah we can actually try it now why not so there's the usual double GAA the standard one and the event one even the close beta has one in the event where you have this mate Ln as the the current can go to character actually let's let's pull T pull why not why not what are we doing now then pulling t characters which is the usual way how you get these which is the most expensive thing and we did k a a only which we didn't get S the best one so most of the time you get this kind of crap which is just like the fer crap that you need to get because yeah or Like These Guys these are like battle pads on top of the main characters and then at some point there's going to be rooll and you're going to see like a normal character hopefully a new one that I don't have not yet okay so yet the animation is amazing

as usual yeah it's true like even even the expectation of it yeah here we go this one I already do you have already yeah so I'm going to unlock his talent because it's good rocket launcher like what else you do you need J it's not rocket launcher there's like concrete on it it seems like a SL concrete launcher okay easy yeah we can also do one more in the standard gcha just to see if we get anything useful and skip it um skip it no no so we got again just a so who we got ah good we got that sister of Nicole we're going to upgrade that oh yeah that one that's amazing who the [ __ ] is that all right show us some upgrades yeah so that's the like really the usual like I I I didn't see any any like differences even the the like PT timers like how much like this table is exactly the one that you see in honai

starl literally exactly the rates the percentages everything's like completely the same which is they tell you that you have 1% likelihood of drawing that character that you really want no no no like man this is the thing it's all based on P timers you see here 50 pools uh guarantees you s character the highest Rarity with exclusive one 0 that's it you just buy yourself through the S rank character yeah yeah like it's signal sh exactly same compared to honai like literally the same just the the thing with this game is like very unintuitive with their currencies because usually Asian Games follow this kind of U like I don't know Legacy teams so every time you had like gems you have these kind of rainbow them Gems or something and and here for instance it's called film this is the hard currency really took me a while to like even understand like what's this then you have these Master tapes and whatever it's called the same but you

cannot really this was like special train ticket and whatever train ticket in honai so it's like literally like half of the time I was playing it it was like guess which currency is the other currency in hongkai so you understand it literally that that was me playing it because I couldn't imagine like a new person like ma or Felix vs into here and like knows what what means what it's like completely unintuitive uh regarding the agents or let's say the characters again this is this is the S S1 that I have currently uh again the things here are really the same as in hon Kai but again looks completely different uh until you get to it like for instance these are the aons there meaning the duplicate talents that like in honai you have the same so let's say we have our bear guy which means that now we have duplicate of we can actually unlock one of his more talents because whatever when successfully block him eny with B Special Attack the Block enemy damage they reduce by 30% which is great because this guy is a tank so uh you can

see that pretty much I can absorb six more copies of B in order to unlock all of his talents here let's say and here for instance I have his skills which he has a [ __ ] ton and I can again unlock some more so this is kind of pretty standard progression as to honai regarding the items like again it's the same but it has this [ __ ] menu where it looks like a revolver or whatever but it's pretty much the same so there's like inventory for six items which are called discs literally like music theme whatever but it's your classic you know gloves Helms boots armor whatever and then you have the usual weapon which is like but you said you have a video store no what do you mean I don't know that's like because like it's like kind like a theme like yeah like everything tries to go in this like super stylish theme but sometimes super confusing but yeah once you get into it like you can just you know pick it's the same so uh the progression with honai or whatever like

I'm just going to really uni do like Universal overview so you have the main character you want multiple copies of it to fully unlock his skills then you want to use all the soft currencies to jam up his level to Max which is usually 80 or something then you want to upgrad his skills as I said through duplicates and through some more like level up currencies which again will increase his output damage and on top of it he has equipment which again you need to upgrade separately and then this like special weapon it's called light in honai or like genin just literally the weapon which has some kind of defining effect on his gam playay for instance here we have the kiss of death deals 40% more attribute anomal damage whatever so that's the I'm assuming that you have to upgrade your characters to keep progressing in the fights because otherwise you get your ass kicked yeah yeah it get to ass kick exactly and you see the depth of it like how many vectors I need to upgrade is the usual thing where we counted like with jinguan or whoever I was counting last time it took like six or 7K Euro in order to get like fully

upgraded only sorry only the aons not only the the like equipment upgrades and everything and on top of it it doesn't have it unlock here but the stats here they're randomized so you want to pull in more and more of the artifacts because you want to find the perfect combination for your character for instance here I would have like whatever crit damage crit chance whatever agility my Elemental so it again takes a lot more time in order to get the perfect role so it's again the usual like this is exactly the same between the games little bit different because honai has uh four slots and two different slots gin has five slots and this guy has six slots which is good I think even better because it gives them more strategy because uh item sets have like two two set bonuses and four set bonuses so you can again mid Max a little bit more with these but yeah it's pretty much the same yeah so exactly the same would you say like how like how much or is it unlimited the as I said like well it's

it's no it's not unlimited but it's like very very deep it's a lot as I said to get like fully unlocked jinguan it took like something like 7K as I was counting like a similar character in Hong star l so yeah and this one you need multiples yeah yeah because the thing is that let's say here uh it's even more interesting regarding the elemental system because you have the five elements which is like electric fire whatever whatever whatever I forgot and then you have the strike the Pierce and the slash different kind of a combat types and you need to kind of you know combine those because let's say here if you go where we are not [Music] here where was it somewhere it was trying find uh pretty much the character has bonuses if

you pair it with different characters of specific type and different characters of specific type also meaning that let's say if I have my electric electric character and I pair it with like fire Pierce or whatever at bonus there's a bonus so it incentivize you to build different parties in order to like overcome different problems so it's excellent like yeah there there that's the proven Method Keep in mind that this is again completely a PVE driven game like this is my biggest uh Grudge with Hoovers games guys you need to start thinking about social elements I was talking to my friend groon it was exactly the same thing like how can you still drive like longterm retention and LTV without social elements because these guys don't have that many social Els or literally zero so remember you said you said that when when we were talking about honai exactly the same thing yeah yeah yeah like it will suffer unfortunately so so that's

there like it only make two billion instead of three billion I don't know by the way very interesting thing this is this is super interesting so GHIN impact actually did three times more Revenue this November than honkai starl so we were talking a lot about these like canalizations and blah blah blah and like honai is going to eat up GHIN no it's not happening um where I have that uh nice screen yeah here we are so if we look into it so what's actually happening here is that honka is going down heavily in November to something like 30 mil a month but actually gin recovered to 100 a mil 100 Mil a month amazing so how come content or just like this is amazing my guess is is cont or like it's just like more sticky end game or some

some kind of thing there but like you see this Valley of honai pretty much eat out of it but it still recovered to the original Baseline which is 100 Mil a month sure then he said all the naysayers that we saying that like genin is going to die because of honkai or whatever or like you can like multiples of please just I just want to see like how many people are driving this amount of Revenue the yeah you said you said the honai decre quite heavily and now GHIN increased so when genin is down honai is up and the other way around so it's like there is some kind of cannibalization now the problem is that honkai has just worse monetization overall per user okay see it's just more generous they're much more generous with honkai that's why I'm still playing it because it's very generous I really don't need to spend in order to like challenge all the things in the game okay like what's the biggest difference

in terms of like monetization in that case they just give you more resources like I can literally you don't need okay I just don't for instance last week or let's say this cycle I was get like it takes me like three cycle to save up for a character and I can get it okay what do you mean I cannot get like the the gacha Cycles like each three weeks okay there's a new seasonal character and if I save up and like play as I should optimally I can get every three Cycles a new character like five without spending a yes without spending [ __ ] without battle pass without anything without nothing amazing okay you can't do you can't do that in genin pretty much probably not or just there's like different syst vors I'm sorry I'm not that like VOR with GHIN but it seems like they have much better kind of monetization per user there and and you see like the revenue is going down but users are the same it's not that like users are the game's great like don't get get me wrong but like so in that case do you think they're going to

borrow monetization features from genin or or hanai the monetization feature is exactly the same the question is what the tightness of the economy like how how much you screw up Bing and all of yeah the balancing the balancing is the key here because for instance one big difference between these game is their energy system setup honai recently launched this other thing that you can save up energy if you go up to Max which is that yeah yeah like you you know this fulfills and goes doesn't go higher but in honai the second energy kicks in which regenerat is three times slower and you can accumulate it for 30 days so it's very very generous and all these other games this one and gin don't have that so it's just like more let's say tight or whatever answ my question it's like more going to be more closer to the genin in that case yeah that's my guess it's going to be more closer to genin what's the Cadence of these games are coming out right is it like so you had

genin how long did it take to come out with honkai and how long with this honai honkai star was uh April 2023 and expectation is for this to hit like next April Q2 right yeah next about a year and a half to two years they're coming out with a new game no no it's not year and a half keep in mind that like there's three years hon and hon and genin but between these games it's just one year because they already have all the systems buil that that's the power of the template yeah and also the other thing that people need to understand is these guys are no new to this like heavy slashing combat system because this is pretty much honkai the third their previous game so they have the knowhow and now they have the systems they just mix and matching like you know building blocks of their own game yes yeah to to the creative uh production when you have like multiple

different Creative Concepts you can mix and match like different into one yeah like these Chinese companies like like hobby Alit uh and yeah Mi hoyo Hoy like these are very smart because they're building up on their genre expertise usually ends up building in a template and they they can dish out games in like half the time the games are usually done in the west because they just you know Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam go the same thing of course some of those fail don't get me wrong like regarding the graph it doesn't seem that honai will ever do the same Revenue as ganshin but still you have another shot on the goal so that's that's really important and it's important also to say they have five [ __ ] thousand employees let's not forget about that come on you can't let show thing that that you won't believe it's here like to see like the extent of like how much production value they're throwing into it oh yeah how much how much do you think King has just to compare it King playx like some of these

companies King what I would say got like 800,000 and that's just a guess I think play Rex has about 2,000 maybe or 1,500 something like really okay yeah it's quite a lot of people so tell tell us in the in the comment section yeah if you know yeah I mean we can check basically easily but would be what the [ __ ] nice so we are looking at the snake SN this this is not the competitive version they even have a competitive version of snake where is 2v2 and who like are you playing obviously it's not with a real player right no no this is computer of course yeah okay but I mean 2v2 is also computer yeah yeah of course yeah yeah okay it's amazing can play Snakes I looked it up guess how many employees playx has and King has so playx is 500 I think and King I would say much

more what like with hidden object games and and stuff like that King as of 2017 had 2,000 people okay I I suck at guessing you don't suck sitting in front of a pool before they they had to sh load of people but now they have match three against which is still like very content heavy so but okay but they they acquired also like Studios just for like in Croatia and Serbia yeah yeah I know but see like this is the production value of this game I'm literally playing a snake a game within the game oh wow game within the game I actually very amazing very you can even kill the other snakes like if you know played wisely see of course effici I'm rainbowy like what what more can you do like how can you compete against these guys honestly so I mean like why is this

why is this amazing tell me because I mean I'm looking at you playing snake wow so what because it prolongs engagement you know like you have different flavors of things that you can get there you don't just need to grind the same thing and then you done yeah but man like I I don't I'm not gonna play uh snake snake in this game I'm going to play Snake elsewhere come on you know why I'm going to play Snake I show you here with achievements because they're going to give hard currency for achievements that you can get now you're talking now you're talking now you're talking it's like yeah well cont you know why they have it here because you run out of energy you need to have something to do that's why of course yeah yeah that makes okay that's clever I mean we we talked about this games within games kind of concept already like at the beginning of the year you have one game with multiple games inside they have a sushi shop of course and like Cafe cafet yeah yeah how many different games are in this in this

game basically do mini games mean yeah yeah yeah I just seen three but this is just like a nice flavor of like Buffs getting Buffs from like MERS this is like combat buff for like five battles it gives you whatever something yeah there's like a guy with a coffee shop uh down here to Street here he is hello so whatever Team master special again the same like just like you see like why would you put an animation into like so much resources got into it out of no obvious reasons yeah like this would be like a press of a button in normal RPG game like use consumable yeah exactly that's it that's the production are crazy high like a character around it whatever there's even story progression with this guy he wanted like he gives me missions whatever and then like these three things which is like again like a shop shop guys whatever so yeah it's like amazing like how much you know Manpower

is put into it like how how there's even oh there's like scratch Lotto here the guys finally awake there it is so are these guys based in China or are they based in Japan or where building China China China China China yeah so there's even like a newspaper here why not like you know everything everything next time we in China which should be next year here then uh need to pay def want to talk with them because they're amazing uh yeah let me let me show one more thing uh the modes of the game actually the modes are also very important because you have the usual story mode which is again similar to like a Hoover game where it just goes to the main story missions unlock stuff goes through like different you know environments unlocks different character blah blah blah then you have the side missions again very similar pretty much the same thing but then you have these like special modes I haven't played that far to unlock those but I checked them out and there uh yeah they are the usual

like one is called the this one is called yeah I forgot the name but it's pretty much like a very row Glide driven game as per usual nice and and the other one is a pure combat only boss mode so you don't oh I didn't show you the mini game yeah I need to show you the mini game but let me show you the mini game because the mini game is very important and it's the one big thing that they added into it so let's continue we don't want story mode where is the mini game yeah so let's go with this thing you'll see because it's it's completely different how you navigate uh environment in like Vin or honai because you would walk into actual environment here there's this TV mini game where you pretty much this is the

like whatever game no not squid game this is the like the board of where your character moves like think Monopoly board so you go around it and you pick different Encounters in it and you need to solve puzzles actually in it and like do stuff around it it's it's very interesting and and what they did is they yeah yeah so they switched this like compared to honkai for instance in honai you would literally like walk a physical environment and then like you would see a guy and you would pick a battle with it and it would switch into turnbas battle here you have this whatever guy going into this kind of hollow Matrix and for instance there I collected coins then here let's say there's a battle right here don't want to do that yet there's whatever yeah I cannot go there which means that we need to go to battle so and then it switches to battle so that's actually how really levels work within when within this game did you need to First go through the like hacker grid and then on that hacker

grid it like you know you switch upu and it's great because you don't need to walk through like stupid corridors of whatever nothing and like going from here and there and it's it's very very intuitive and plays great into the roow glide mode like plays amazing actually so I think this can you get the bear U I think I didn't get the bear I get the mate the sword woman and the strong box the black hole one oh by the way there's like now we have the pet he showers them with money che check this out that's amazing there there's my batt and he has like one ability which is like shower enemies with money and it like does damage to them he literally says like behold the power of money or something see oh yeah B to the power of money and with that that mind we can wrap up yeah let's wrap up Jesus Christ it's great okay so it's amazing uh then the

question is when this launch is will it be bigger thaned predictions usual yeah uh so prediction about what like the monthly first month Revenue first month Revenue geni 153 honkai 187 o so this will be 234 so somebody want to do over 200 yeah I I'll take 300 okay I'm I'm I'm I'm unfortunately skeptical I think 50 150 well you know yeah because there's diminishing returns and this is the last thing I wanted to mention that I think unfortunately these guys are so good that they're only competing with themselves like that's that's the a set amount of people that's 4.2 million people that play this game the same 4.2 million that love all the games so the market has larger so so I'm predicting again like both of the other two games will have like a downward Spike because of the launch of the new game and then

the question is what will be the overall like cumulative revenue of all three impact yeah because I'm a little bit afraid now because literally like I I really want to switch into this like from hongkai like I've seen everything that that that was in Hong Kai I just would play this and it's very like heavy like I mean I really need to play honkai I can leave on my second and leave it playing by autop play but this I need to really like you know play engage have the like Fran in combat you know how is how is this called playing a [ __ ] game yeah ex playing a [ __ ] game not like looking at it putting on outo play yeah Jesus Christ but it's amazing like it's it's really nice once you get into it we'll see but my guess is this is this will this will go much better on PC and console audience than 100% that's I want you can play it if

you're on the road on on mobile but you want to play this on PC yeah yeah all right and with that note time to wrap up yeah yes see you around and yeah spoiler new hybrid coming up next episode woohoo wo thank you very much for listening Please Subscribe join our slack Channel and see you next time cheers bye-bye [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] bye-bye