yeah so what ped of Exel does they sell stash tabs so you can buy more inventory space for real world money it doesn't change the game playay in a way that you're more stronger more powerful it just creates more comfort and this is the thing that I would call this model it's pay for Comfort because it is much more comfortable to have like things organized nicely because keeping my dection this is no [ __ ] gaming podcast to at Gamers sharing actionable insights dropping Knowledge from our day-to-day user acquisition game design and AD monetization jobs we are definitely not discussing the latest industry news but having so much fun let's not forget this is a 400 a.m. conference discussion Vibe so let's not take it too seriously okay everybody this is special episode of Diablo 4 we are playing witho
and I'm playing as well so we are going to talk about this amazing game and play obviously because you like the episode where we play when we played Squad Busters so we decided to play Diablo 4 and talk about it so now we play both it's both us but since I was in us I kind of I'm lacking behind quite heavily so yeah so yob is is gonna help me with some uh some content but it's not exactly the same as diao two or three where you just power through the the whole [ __ ] content in five minutes and we are going to talk about that as well okay so okay let's uh let's take yeah why are we even talking about this because in the end this is going more in a way than a free to-play game I would say it's still kind of pay pay and play because you still need to buy the base version but in the end it is it has its own shop for the
first time uh in here with daily refresh and like everything they have there and uh yeah we're going to pretty much go on a little bit of speculation and like what we will do next and what are the possibilities and then compare them with some Market examples of other successful arpg such as P of Exile and give you a rundown what do we think about these things because in the end this is this kind of a let's say I would say new model of PC premium or let's say PC microtransactions that this kind of age awaits us so let's see but before we start Let's Help little Rafael lancho here Rafa you know why rafhaela by the way why because there is this uh song uh for kids she's Raphael at the centipede it's your daughter is thinking
exactly all the [ __ ] time so so now it all makes sense I usually start man I usually play uh female characters hey do you see this t d uh stronghold let's let's do that let's let's yeah let's go there yeah I just got in a question so let's start with the first casual mechanic and the most controversial one that I think everybody's currently talking about there was even some kind of a drama between buan guys and blizzard where somebody pretty much straight out said that this is lazy design but what are you talking about see if you can see on the screen for those listening um mateti here is level 36 Rafaela and I'm level 73 through it and we are playing actually together and uh you would see oh like whatever I touches pretty much dies instantly no it won't because the game but but it actually does so it's actually does because I have like pretty
good character but in the end uh the game is currently built around this kind of a scaling system which enables you to have this experience when one of your friends is far behind you or the other is far ahead of you you can still play together and the content is still challenging for both of us so let's say here's an event that is like the typical one in open world there even other players you could see that there's like 43 36 that's M 46 I'm 73 and we are all playing together so that that's thanks to that new scaling system um it's great because as I said we can all play together it's pretty much meaningful and stuff like that I can even have some kind of a let's say useful drops maybe yeah even a little bit of hard time let's see how the the boss monster I haven't even used my skills yet uh but the thing is that on the
other hand what this creates is that the monsters always level ups with you which breaks this usual kind of power Spike rule that AR RPGs or RPGs follow where you continue on your content and you pretty much find this kind of let's say hard content hard boss whatever you get your ass kicked and then what you do you go somewhere else you level up and then you return back to that area and then you are able to defeat that content finally because that content didn't level up this is not the case for Diablo 4 because in Diablo 4 the content level ups with you therefore each time you level up Monsters level up with you but monsters get you know boosted stats and everything and you don't really have a like item upgrade every single level therefore what this produces on especially higher levels I'm talking like 70 to 80 plus
is that you actually get weaker sometimes really significantly you need to you need to explain that in like way different words because when you talk when we discussed this in beta I didn't have a [ __ ] clue what you are talking about now I understand so let's so what I usually did in Diablo 2 or three so I went to a different like certain location I got my ass kicked obviously so I I I knew oh well I can't go there because it's just too hard for me so I need yeah I need to grind I need to level up and then I can go there here I wanted to go when I when you open up map so I wanted to go wherever and I was like oh well I can't go there because well I'm too weak to actually do any damage there but then I was like well wait a second these these guys are all already at the same level as I am like what the [ __ ] is happening so yes now I know what it
means that they scale with with me but I don't get the part where I'm weaker actually you don't get that part it's pretty much uh all you need to go into higher difficulty probably okay because here on like level 37 or whatever you get a new item upgrade pretty much every single level like whatever you find here even in this event on the ground will be probably better than the items you already have in your inventory and that's okay and that's great ah okay now I know okay but later down the line there's like nothing good will drop for like five levels and monsters keep getting stronger and you still let's say I'm on level 70 and I level up five levels so monsters went up five levels they are five levels stronger but I didn't do any changes to my gear because there were no upgrades therefore you know I'm weaker than my level 70 self when I'm currently level 75 self okay okay now I got it yeah because you don't you don't get the higher level
items so you're basically yeah you're basically weak okay okay so so we'll see how this one goes um I know streamers have been like complaining about it very much everybody's complaining about it everybody's complaining about everything that's the main problem some of the game designers as well usually what happens on the internet but uh yeah this is this is pretty much breaking the rule as it was in all the other arpg games RBC Grizzly Master are you in the [ __ ] Clan or something what are you in a clan yeah I'm also in a clan God of course you're in the clan pretty big one actually yeah of course pretty big one yeah but I I really underestimated the thing like or let's overestimated like there's really no need for a clan now oh we're going the wrong way okay um yeah so we'll see what happens with this thing where as I said people are kind of
like the end game behaves completely different because yeah when we're talking about this thing like let's let's go back to the like casual experience the Casual experience of the thing is like Genius Like I think this this feature unlock a lot more players for blizzard to actually play Diablo they had this kind of excellent marketing push with all the big things with uh mean Fox reading the names of the Dead hardcore characters come here where going like going to you're going the wrong way oh jeez okay yeah folks talking about so actually a lot of people that didn't play Diablo games or RPGs all together I guess got here and that's great because they already announced their sales that in first uh I think five days it was they hit the magic number 666 million yeah Revenue so yeah definitely the game's working great uh but the problem is when these casual people start hitting the end game and the hardcore
people also leave pretty much hit the end game and then you have a little bit of mismatch so let's see what happens later down the line because that bring us to this other thing like what happens next with Diablo and that's what what's currently being currently like the main let's say friction Point uh I know there was even a Twitter exchange with the Forbes Pauli who also seems didn't play Diablo games and was new to this concept of you leveling your character uh and then after some time uh you need to level a new character from the start there's the is the and he was like oh I can't use my character that I was using for like I don't know 50 hours and like play with seasonal content no you can't and and that's the thing that I think it's a little bit of three already introduced like the SE character
it was even in Diablo Diablo I where there was the lead system and uh where are you going I don't know somewhere just follow me Jesus and it was already in Diablo 2 it was called lers back then and it it was always great because you would have this kind of fresh start but this Fresh Start was usually every like three months or something like that and Diablo is launched on 6th of June and now already in like middle or end of July they will start this process of seasonal content where you need to restart from the beginning and yeah people will be pissed like I'm already pissed I I started uh late because I was in us and I didn't have my PC with me so I'm basically now playing for nothing because I need to play again from the start which is well that's kind of sucks and it would be great if there would be this kind of thre Monon uh pause come back come back come back between these things and it
would work out but yeah unfortunately the timing is a little bit off because it works like that in all the other args let's say p of Exile also have this kind of a league concept where every three months there's new seasonal content and uh yeah it feels fresh and great because there's of course new economy and uh Diablo Diablo 4 they don't have that really so at least not yet at least not yet not yet not yet but they already made some concessions that they don't want to force you to like unhide the whole map which is kind of very very big spoilers and spoilers by this this time almost everybody Play Everybody Knows yeah and then also collect the Alters of lit which are these kind of character boosts that you just collect and that's it you have those so I guess they're already hitting this kind of a casual players friction where they try to make some concessions and don't really want them to lose every and start from scratch so we'll see um
the other thing that I'm kind of let's say missing here is that they don't really have an economy so what what Diablo does is that you can trade some of the gear like if I would want to help little mate here little mate [ __ ] off man you think why you talking I could give him a like a rare item or something like yeah I currently have like a rare item for like level 45 or something like that but all the let's say the meaningful items like legendaries and everything they're account bound so I can't give it to you really so yeah you can buy some rare items there's even Discord forums that people are trading some of the things because you can like make rare items into legendaries so it is some kind of let's say a little bit of economy but then yeah it's not really that that big if you compare it to something like ped X where there's actually like a you can
trade anything there's of course the B problem a little bit but yeah you can trade anything legendaries all the endg game items they have like so much value and this also brings this kind of a new angle to the whole thing because people like to engage with the economy itself and you don't have that in Diablo 4 so there's this question uh wait a second so I have the account Bond legendaries so when the season restarts do I have them still or they just are no you start from scratch level one character goodby all okay but you have the gear in the stash no you don't the stash is empty Jesus what that was that was the great thing on Diablo 3 so I had these legendaries so I put it in the St because there was no season you you know oh yeah that's true yeah that was great because it pretty much encourages you to level more characters because all I found this great Barbarian Hammer but I don't have a barbarian let's level level up a barbarian next exactly this this is not going to happen oh my God it's so bad everybody needs to start from
scratch so let's go to this dungeon by the way let's let's finish the thing it's it's here you need to click somewhere here where it is here you need to go there with me yeah yeah so I guess they will now need to again adjust this kind of a casual nature or casual beginning of the game because let me tell you the end game not really casual and people again hit that wall of complexity uh and yeah we'll see how it goes because what we really looking forward is like yeah outstanding lunch perfect performance no server crashes like Diablo I the infamous eror 37 and stuff like that um yeah just like outstanding the games Marvel like you can see the graphics are just gorgeous like yeah everything is perfect everything's perfect the environment the production values the cinema the campaign's great it's like a six hour experience I would say the story is okayish I would say there's some let's say plot holes or like things that don't
make really sense but yeah let's say okay there's a bit of nostalgia old characters returning and so on so forth it's great for like a casual player that would just play the game for like 50 hours it's amazing but what what it offers for like liveops content or what's going to happen when yeah we're actually talking like what's going to they what they're going to do for liveops so in a little bit of a develop M diaries that they're doing they already talk about or let's say let's go to the main town in the meantime so yeah we can show it um they already talk about that they're going to have season pass model going to kashad or the other K okay so they said they're going to have a seasonal model uh where you are pretty much progressing a season pass during those season with again like completely new character let me show you bit of a things on screen for those watching not
listening so yeah everybody who is listening to this you should be watching yeah because it's it's it's better just better experience um the visuals are great the visuals are great it's amazing so so they are going to have a cosmetic battle pass where on one side of of the battle pass the free track you're going to have some I guess free Cosmetics on the bottom part you're going to have mainly like premium cosmetics and on the top part you're going to have these kind of uh blessing currency smolders that going to pretty much reinforce some of the blessings or like bonuses for the season for like new characters again they're encouraging to level up more than one character and that's pretty much it um okay the the other end game I don't know how you progress by the way through the season pass like if it's just like levels or like most probably levels experience I think we'll see like uh I I'm going to compare it with with P of Exel we can talk about a little bit more
but just want to get back to that cosmetic thing you where can I read all the uh things on my weapon or boots oh in the occultist onti on the left yeah in the meantime I'm going to show you just a little bit of like those Cosmetics that that we have here so the thing is that you can dect out your character pretty pretty good I would say even without spending any money and uh you have these like even slots that I made that you can pretty much save your so I have let's say this Arctic Druid that I have made and I have this like desert Droid because didn't really make sense for me to go in desert in Arctic gear and then I have this like wooden Droid or whatever and these are all made with completely like free-to-play stuff that you get from the game where you can just uh go there and like change stuff and have like these different things within different colors and so on so forth F rolls I need to fend RS to roll
my boots okay I know never gonna find this type of [ __ ] okay whatever yeah so you can you can have the appearance uh then you have like tattoos and stuff there and then you have like the other slot they have is headstones which is like the thing that shows when you die it's this kind of a ghost over your cor really interesting choice get how is this important yeah yeah so those are the Cosmetics loss the other big Cosmetics loss is of course the horse and oh yeah the horse is like I would say one of the main points uh you have different horses actually that you can have you have different horse armors so for all of you that were not playing with us during the beta so yob was crying all the [ __ ] time where's the horse where's the horse I open world game man like there's so much walk why can have the horse sooner yeah yeah yeah that's true yeah I already bitching about it too so I know I know the pain
and then you have the trophies on the horse which is like this uh yeah let's say this trophy or that trophy but yeah so we have let's say three slots on the horse and then one two three four five six slots on the character and then The Headstone slot let's say so that's what like 10 slots or something like that and those are just all cosmetics and it seems that they're going to just go for Cosmetics which in my opinion is a little bit of um let's say unused potential or like they could go more and and the problem is that these guys don't really want to go into a game playay altering mechanics that you can sell altered gameplay you mean altered gaml exactly because let's switch a little bit into ped of Exile and we can compare what they have keep in mind that ped Exile been running there for like 10 years or actually let me let me go to my
other character this time of course there should be like a high level one that you could see and this is like a this is the game that was created in order to like go back to the roots of Diablo 2 when Diablo 3 came out and uh what these guys did they tried to go very very core like it's literally Niche so [ __ ] deep yeah you need like you need a university to play this game it's very very complex yeah I opened up the skill tree and I was like nope yeah we'll get there yeah and the thing is that let's look at the thing that they have in their Cosmetics yeah so see how many slots the Cosmetics have so I have like helmet skin like different things that I can put even like neck attachment or whatever I have here and and these La just keep on increasing and increasing and some of those are very very kind of lever for instance this helmet that they
introduced lately uh or I don't know where it was actually down there but what it does it glows depending on number of monsters you have killed so it interacts with the game play Then you have pretty cool yeah yeah yeah then then you have these like let's say the footsteps even like I can change what what could be like in my foot steps if it's like fire footsteps or like Galactic footsteps whatever I have two pets that I can you know change or whatever that works with me every single skill has his own plora of cosmetic effects so skills can actually have different Cosmetics effects portals like actually the town portals have different Cosmetics effect they even have so much cosmetic effects that they created an effect that randomizes the effects so I have a lot of these let's say like the usual Town portal like you have in Diablo so when I would use that
like a custom cosmetic one would appear but if I have like so many of those like I can only equip one so what they created is that I can randomize those so the game randomized that for me so instead just looking at one if I open the map here the game actually creates see like I have this three one then I have this whatever Sun one then this black hole one and then like two more or three more sun one go to roll there randomly it's similar to what Heartstone did where with the card back thing because they already like again cosmetic of a cardback and they did uh disc kind random CB so you never know which one you go into the battle because that's what happens when you have like 20 Cosmetics on one slots it doesn't make sense to create 30 more so you need to somehow be able to show them off so what happens with these guys they have very very clever effects here and like different things that they have been adding throughout the years and more and more slots and this I think what diabo will do later down the line
so now we have as I said 11 slots and we'll end up by the end of the year with something like 15 to 16 that's my guess so they're going to add exactly like same things that these guy have because they have been like added for like 10 years like there no other way really to do anything in action RPG um the other thing I want to talk about is the end game uh because this is as for monetization model sorry not not end game but the the other part of the microtransactions so what P of Exel does is that you have your stash and this stash works completely different than the Diablo one because if we go back to Diablo and we go into our stash and people are already complaining it uh that the stash is so small and like why don't we have more slots and my guess is they maybe will go this way but it's just a wild guess so here is our stash where you have like four slots that I have like what like gems then I
have some uniques then I have PVP ears for those who don't know like if you kill a player in Diablo you get his ear so you can remember him and then potions or like Dungeons whatever but just four tabs and some tabs of course in my inventory it's already kind of low and keep in mind I'm using one character already feel it all Leverage The Power of loyalty driven UA with mplay users discover a colle collection of curated games to play based on their interests the more they play the more units they earn the more they spend on inapp purchases they also earn units can be redeemed for their preferred rewards including a variety of gift cards tapping into our exclusive and growing community of engaged Gamers at a global scale loyalty works for any game in genre so what ped of Exel does they sell stash tabs so you can buy more
inventory space for real world money it doesn't change the game playay in a way that you're more stronger more powerful it just creates more comfort and this is the thing that I would call this model it's pay for Comfort because it is much more comfortable to have like things organized nicely because keeping mind design action RPG there's lots of Loot and a lot all those OCD people like yourself like a lot of time you're just playing inventory tetres or dealing with loot or like organizing and so on so forth yeah there's so many of these then they have the special item stab that they years of Exile to which is going to be very much simplified version of this I hope so I hope so as well so I can finally play it and pay attention because if I if I start you know like trying to learn all of this [ __ ] it's just like only the preparation to just find the build uh try to understand how
it works what's the best build for me and blah blah blah it would just take me like [ __ ] one one or two build is not really the problem the problem is like learning what to do with each of these mechanics that that's the problem um I was trying to find the build and I spend like two days and it's like no no no no no it's very hard like ped XEL is like yeah 10 to one complex oh yeah yeah DIA to yeah before P Exel um yeah but this is my wild guess that what they're going to do they maybe will go this kind of Road of pay for Comfort because in my opinion this works much better regarding monetization because yeah how many Cosmetics can you sell or how many Cosmetics are appealing for you to have like of course there's this like special group of players that they will buy them but in the end these are very very important features and in ped of Exile they are literally altering game plate at some point because some of the premium tabs that you have here can be like only the premium tabs can be indexed on the players on the trading
side meaning that if I want to put my like their own way of auction house if I want to put an item into an auction house I need to have that premium tab because they don't want to facilitate trading in order to have like a special auction house within the game they have this kind of a gray Zone trading where I need to have the premium tab I need to my item to be put in there and then I can pretty much let's say pick it price there and I know that it cost this and this and this and then anybody will pretty much go on the site see it there and message me game hey I want to buy your item like you already like adverti it for this match let let's just trade it so this is their way of like trading items within the economy it works pretty well and uh yeah my guess is that kabo will probably want to do the Comfort tab something like they will add more and more and more currencies and [ __ ] into the game and yeah it will be more and more cumbersome the question is if the
things that that will solve those like new problems will be paid or will be free that's that's a question but of course it will in my opinion this is like the best monetization that you can have like it's a little bit like of course this pissing the everything should be free and not altering gameplay audience but I guess there's no way around it they of course have their own battle pass uh like if I go into the can even go here yeah I need to yeah don't know if I can go here screen trying find there so many mechanics haven't been here for a long time yeah yeah so yeah but pretty much they have their own battle pass but the other thing I wanted to show is the end game or like what's their liveops with the seasons because how of Exile works and let's go to like season character le
as I said like you need to make a new one starts from scratch so I have like level one here yeah but that's the thing that Diablo 3 started doing as well yeah of course diao also do it but the difference and the big difference between let's say Diablo 3 here is that current end game here is that I can level this character to 100 I can get some like whatever achievements that I have here like challenges that some have some cosmetic rewards some have just like player title rewards and then I can kill like World bosses I can do these three of Whispers like pretty much like Quest system for end game and I can do like Legion Events or like complete the map and that's it there's not much to it social activity wise there's also not really that much to it the bosses are kind of easy very easy like like eight people will kill a boss in like two minutes there's not really like yeah but then you have like super hard L at the end of the game and then level 100 L
that Uber L that will one shot everything so great like like [ __ ] said it's like a platformer but yeah that's not much mechanics to do and you can as I said like you can finish all of these things within like 100 hours of gameplay time which for hardcore arpg players is not that much when you consider that the season works for three months yeah that's like super fast for everybody what do you do so if we go into P of Exile what these guys have uh they have this um let's say challenges thing that for every three months for every we they have like these different challenges there's 40 of those and the game pretty much it's like a bunch of achievements or like things that the game requires you to do and they track it nicely here in this tab and then you have cosmetic rewards along the way as you see like if I 12 challenges I get these House born gloves
tier two so on so forth and then I can also get the leak totem that's just like a display case in my Hideout where it shows that I have progressed to the challenge this and this and this but the problem with these things that they take so much [ __ ] time to do literally like grinding goals like the last one is called grinding goals like level 100 or defeat U bosses 75 times activate the altar of something 750 times what defeat come on man like it's just this is this is like the the that's just the scale of it like these guys are aiming for the really really really core audience like I mean core like people that play like three hours a day or maybe wait what three hours a day is nothing I play three hours a day sometimes and I'm not I way far from the core so so the scale like how much hardc coreness this whole thing can capture it's it's like much much bigger and I let me go to my other
character and I like I try to do these things like they're kind of pretty good they always keep you kind of running because there's something still to do and there's like a lot of achieve achievement things to do there um yeah I think it's it's it's like a good system and my guess is that the battle pass or season pass that Diablo 4 will do will be kind of similar let's see but for instance here you can see my totems here that like every one of the is a representation of a thre Monon league so there's a lot of them let's say no life yob the no life what the G come on yeah but not that big no no Eagles on my side like we full complete so anyway but what I wanted to to tell you that this gives meaning to leveling a new character to starting the economy from fresh because with ped Exile the economy on the standard realm the one that no one plays is [ __ ] I'm I'm sorry like it does the price is inflation they don't care about it because what they do every three
months they start from scratch the economy is new of course there's inflation towards the end of it but they don't care because what happens in another three months they reset it again and that works great so yeah I really wonder how Diablo will do it because Diablo I like with their Seasons like I don't know how many of those like 30 of them runs they they didn't really 28 or something yeah and if if you look at the da graph of P of Exile it's very very very uh kind of consistent pattern of Spike during the start of the league and after first month there's like a big down Spike and then in two months at the start of the another new league there's again very very big spike and so on so forth and the spikes actually go higher and higher and this game is taking more and more players of course keep in mind that P of Exile was bought by 10 cent so they are not that small anymore and uh yeah they're going to announce more details around ped of Exel which my guess is will be the biggest Western
competitor to Diablo 4 in next month in end of July well they announce it in the end of July or is it already live in the end no no they will announce the date of beta at the end of July and it will be already playable at Gamescom on this okay but by the way uh if you can help me a little bit that would be amazing yeah I'm going to go there save your ass um my yeah but we'll see like I'm just kind of speculating like how Diablo 4 will run this because as I said ped Exile is definitely even though it's much smaller in size because it's burdened by its very very high complexity uh that literally you need the university to get into I'm hoping that they will get it much more streamlined uh for ped of Exile 2 experience already they announced some of the things that they're streamlining but yeah I would be very glad if they can because the end game if we compare the end game systems a lot
of these are taken actually from ped Exile so if I go here into the ability system and in this kind of paragon system so what you see here is this kind of very very big skill Tre that I'm pretty much going my way through where I have these glyphs that I can put there and like they will be affected by all the other nodes within its vicinity and so on so forth and adding more and more of these kind of chest boards and rolling it and it's super complex if we go into P of Exile and look into their tree it's actually the exact same concept it's just kind of pretty big you don't rotate anything and you just follow away but like these kind of sockets that you can add there into the slots St they have it so they took this kind of a mechanic streamlined it a little bit or I would say also add a little bit of complexity with the rotation everything it's a lot of complexity so this is this is a little bit can confusing to me like why they have this kind of very very high level of
complexity they want to cater to the like end game RPG audience but I don't know like if casual people can deal with it because of course P of Exile they have just the character skill Tre but also the map skill tree so so why not another big one yeah amazing and on and on top of it there like the their best end game system is the map system where you like go through this atlas of maps that you start from the border and slowly progress your way to the middle of it where you have the ultimate bosses and you need to do things it's very very engaging and like one of the best arpg endgame systems but again this is this is very complex so I don't know how Diablo plans to do it but they they are definitely taking some of the mechanics of P of XL already so you also said that there is some kind of inspiration from lar as well right yeah the other inspiration is Lark which is the other big competitor that I wouldn't say is that um big in Western space it's more
an Asian game from Korea but it's also an open world oh now you came when I almost killed everybody thank you very much Mr gri Man rewards yeah of course you because Diablo 4 is pretty much a mutation of those two games where you have the arpg experience of ped of Exile I would say or let's say RPG experience in general and then you have the open worldness uh that's typical for games like Lark where Lark also has like another like different mechanics such as like the sailing mechanic where it go through these islands and like do events and stuff there they these guys don't have it but lar is also low for like five years so maybe something will come out of it but it's definitely much more to the MMO feel like we pretty much met those two players on the road as we CER you wouldn't be able to to for this to happen in Diablo I or ped X out there's no random players in the world here there are so but why why is that
important by the way I mean I don't care um it's not that important to be honest because there's not much content that it would require for you to that's the thing yeah right engage with other players exactly so it was interesting in the beta where we had to get everybody go around the boss exactly now in here like you said like those bosses are not that well difficult anymore yeah it was really like really tough to to beat this boss in the first beta yeah my guess is that probably they will introduce more and more of these kind of uh end game mechanics because even in lar you have these Dungeons and there's definitely a lot of mechanics that you need to do like similar to World of Warcraft actually where you need to learn the boss patterns like in this phase the boss does this stand here don't stand in that if you screw it up everybody dies and they're pissed at you so on so forth so the well double for they don't have that currently so I'm
like really interested if they will actually follow this road because the bosses and actually the raids in L star are much much much more complex than in Diablo 4 you know what would be great to actually have on the video The Butcher the butcher if he would Ambush us here yes I'm not sure if here but uh I actually could spawn here but yeah I haven't seen him basically yet don't know but definitely uh Diablo 4 is excels at much better accessibility or approach where like pretty much everybody like people start to make fun of these like Diablo dads that's me I'm the Diablo Dad I'm also Diablo dad that they have just few minutes of gameplay per day in downtime between their 50 kids and so on so forth so it's become a meme in the Diablo it's definitely meme yeah definitely but it's amazing we'll see I'm really interested
like this year is going to be great because we going to have like two biggest uh action RPGs on the market pretty much show their full cards like how they're going to tackle the market and it will be great for competition and great for us players so that's going to be good and on the other hand we're going to probably see some new business models being utilized I would say because I don't really think that Diablo 4 will just be okay with just Cosmetics I think they will need to sell something more either that Comfort we talk about or something else I see like why they didn't even introduced this from the very beginning because they rushed it to be able to launch before P of Exile um I don't think so they didn't rush it like keep in mind this game was in development for like five years I but it's the blizzard way of of doing things soon hey launch it soon yes thank you very much fast forward [ __ ]
10 10 years oh here we are don't you have a mobile device I don't know by the way this is also interesting uh ped of Exile is also bringing its mobile Port uh to be announced on uh that Exile convention what is that is just going to be Diablo Immortal or is it going to be literally the like game playable on mobile phone it's going to be the game playable on mobile phone okay so I'm I'm really um P of Exel one or or two two P of Exel one will cease exist there won't be P of XEL one after the Patch okay okay XEL like it's similar to The Counter Strike uh thing where Counter Strike also just improved and that's you have the new one okay so we just yeah okay morphs into P of Exile too yeah exactly okay so yeah we'll see like there's lot of unanswered questions lot of possib abilities where this can go where this can go really wrong or really
good we'll see but the most important thing for me is that yeah the lunch was UN sending the content the campaign and everything was great but what will happen next what will be happening with the game in a year in half a year and like what content we will see because if this is what is the prediction prediction is as I said like they will need to monetize something more than Cosmetics but do but why do they need to monetize something else because um they I think their schedule is like a expansion every two years or one year don't know what was the schedule but they're definitely they already announced that they're making two expansions expansions meaning that you need to buy them again for $60 or4 100 Delux Edition and you can't play because you're in [ __ ] on California yeah that's that's also the other thing thank you very much uh problem in between I
don't think so that Cosmetics Z will be enough in between those expansions because P of Exile makes money I would say hand over fist with those like life comfort features okay Cosmetics are great but you definitely want more stash space definitely more like more ordered stash space more like possibilities to make your life e easier here that's the thing I would I would pay for making my life easier well I do it every time I can in real life so why would I not do it yeah exactly like why why why don't you know if you can buy business class why wouldn't do it in in your arpg if it doesn't make you any stronger at all like you still need to go to it's not pay to win so it's not pay to win it's pay for Comfort but yeah some people like the Orthodox one still call it pay to win or like but why is it G play altering think but why is it pay to win because you have more room for
stashing at yeah more room you're faster because you don't need to you know care that much or things that much so you get like more dungeons per minute blah blah blah oh all these amazing stats main maxers yeah yeah yeah okay true Jesus yeah but actually the other thing I wanted to point out that Cosmetics yeah that that's why I'm also kind of afraid that Cosmetics will make it for Diablo for is that their Cosmetics are kind of L luster compared to what you find in the game already like in in ped of Exile the Cosmetics are really shiny really good you immediately know when you see someone okay this is a cosmetic and and they're they're weing some whatever something of that they they just bought or was like given from some kind of achievement in the game here like stuff looks pretty good even though it's not a paid cosmetic so like for instance do you do you see the ma that I'm holding here this two-handed mace yes this is this is like an
exclusive cosmetic from like viewing Diablo 4 on Twitch nice but it it's it isn't really like anything great like if I see this is the glowing fire Stu that I have now is the original one that I'm changing the appearance in the other one so honestly like these are more cool no difference yeah so my guess is that they don't want to break the like the Dark Fantasy here with all the shiny whatever things you're glowing like a you know disco guy but yeah the Cosmetics don't really make the cut then I think so we'll see okay we can leave the dungeon I want to really see the butcher M Mr uh yob where where can we find where can find you just need to run out of dungeons that's oh okay so it's randomly spawn in randomly spawn in the
worst case situation where you're getting your asking and suddenly a bunch of spa okay perfect oh now not this event again okay [ __ ] it let's let's let's go okay um your casual player rating here my casual player rating like 10 out of 10 10 out of 10 of course no really like I really enjoyed the beta I seriously started playing Diablo 3 after the bet I ended because I was like okay well I need to play something which is definitely closer to Diablo 4 I tried to play P of Exile but it was just too complex to University P of Exile first I I could I could I just couldn't I it's just like it was too much so definitely 10 out of 10 and uh because yeah my casual uh casual player rating would be definitely 10 I don't I'm not even on at the end of the the end the content yet so but yeah I I'm still pretty much like having fun
and playing alone it's it's okay for casual players this is amazing and like it's pretty much like new Christmas for us uh hardcore RPG players uh it was also Christmas I would say uh until you hit those first 50 hours of gameplay and then for me no I wouldn't say [ __ ] it's pretty much not that much to do like I enjoy let's say the PVP from time to time if you find a player that's low level than you if you find a higher level than you especially those like no lifers camping the sides there with like level 100 Barbarian rolls around and kills you in one shot that's an outstanding experience yeah I can yeah that's there you just go and farm some Cosmetics for the bosses like every six hours or like some daily stuff and that's it that's not really that much to do so there's like yeah I can I can try to pretty much level this character to level 100 and try to get on with it but you do that when you need yeah why would you do that when you need to do it again in like a
few few weeks yeah exactly like that's the thing no yeah okay yeah at least if they would have that kind of challenges pass or whatever like the tracker there that would track your progress you get something out of it for it so that could be like something to keep you going but other than that like people already like the streamers they setting their own goals now because they run out of stuff to do but they they run out of stuff to do in first week of course because they that bling nonstop yeah but yeah let's see like we need to give give these guys a little bit of U let's say uh how do you get benefit of Doubt because of course the game's out for what like 20 days yeah so for 20 days I think it's amazing but yeah we'll definitely see what happens afterwards and how the liveop systems and the end game content going to improve because it will it will be pretty important especially how they will be able to balance between the Casual players being able to to uh engage with the content and then the hardcore players because that that's
that that's the current kind of debate on the internet like I said that oh I need to like level up my character again and then the hardcore plays like what did you expect like this is action RPG 101 yeah so for me like the rating is something like seven to eight out of 10 I would say say yeah you will say seven or eight definitely eight okay let's see yeah I think we can end it here I think so as well I think so as well uh too bad Felix couldn't join us because he's definitely already 100 level watching all the ads watching all the ads they have here exactly so he got experience from watching ads so that's why he's on level 100 killed Uber lth with uh with ads all right thank you very much guys for listening and uh watching the the YouTube stream or well stream YouTube video um share it with your friends uh
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