Playstation 5 Reveal Event Reaction | Game Dev Unchained Roundtable News

I Oh everybody welcome to another episode of game dev unchain the number one game development podcast about game development in the lifestyle of era I am for an Pham and this is a special episode a roundtable news episode with a good old friend ray Graham how are you doing ray see ray back there on my TV so excuse me but the game dev on chain set isn't officially done so I'm just in this bin warehouse for now in the time being as that is being made but you know where where about like what seven months into kovat now six months in and I kind of like you use you Ray as a kind of measure of what's like out there so far does that that's like the closest it's ever been since this thing has started where I'm like art right [ __ ] it's like

but then reach now which kind of correlates with how how the circles getting a lot smaller what do you have anything like that where you're starting to hear more and more people in that side no I haven't heard like most folks I know don't have it as least as far as they know and I haven't heard of that status has changed that much yeah well that's good man it seems like the Bay Area actually has been pretty steady right it hasn't been any crazy surges there's been a bit of a surge but it hasn't been it's not like Florida or Texas right yeah Texas is crazy but uh onwards and outwards today uh again this is a opinion that reflects our own opinion and not of our employers so please don't get us fight well I can't get fired but ray Megan again this is

just we're about like three weeks later but it's worth mentioning the last time we did this we kind of reviewed the Unreal 5 tech demo and last of us two one of those is out now which is the last of us - I think it's appropriate to kind of play catch-up I don't know if you played the game yet I haven't but I've been hearing pretty good things correct yeah no like I yeah I played a little bit of it about what is it maybe three four hours into it and it's a highly polished naughty dog game but that's that's what it is when it comes to the tech and everything it's it's super super super highly polished when it comes to gameplay and like when it comes to sorry not gameplay when it comes to just the emotions and the feelings of it and all of that it's it's a very depressing game to play so far

but yeah yeah I heard the user scores were kind of opposite of the critic score I don't know what that was about you know if that is that some kind of controversy behind then I don't know what the because it was like 4.9 i metacritic learning and use the scores yeah the critic score is really high what is that about what's your theory it's what the gamer is about the users being upset about certain aspects of it right there's been all sorts of spoilers and like Story spoilers and and things like that and then people are very upset about that stuff a little bit too little bit too invested in the world and all that and and the game went a little bit different direction and so a lot of people are pissed off about that and started down down them rating the game but for my perspective as somebody who

makes video games and like it's it's a technical polished marvel it's a really really good game in that respect and yeah yeah the story might not be what you want or there might be some stuff that happens that kind of throws you off like really early in the game but you know suck it up right yeah I am looking forward to it I hope it's more but it sounds like they didn't really make any crazy bad mistakes they did what they usually do which is pump out a really polished game people were upset I didn't read any spoilers I didn't even think this boys was such a big deal like I felt like Naughty Dog made a bigger deal out of it than people actually finding out about it or like really really spoiling it it wasn't to the point where it was like in our faces wherever like the oh my god I can't play the game anymore and to be honest like every leak in history has always been like that

starting back to half-life 2 leaks never ruin the game sales or anything we've bet it's always the developers kind of crying about it but no one really else really cares they're just gonna either bite her or weren't gonna buy it before so glad that kind of brushed over the user score was a surprise I wasn't I was reading a bit on it but didn't really understood it no one when it comes to that stuff that's not a surprise ever right it's it's a it's a highly touted game that people who wait before that it's been hyped up to oblivion that's gonna be saving cancer and then it didn't do all of that for some people so they're gonna moan and groan about it and still play it and still finish it and not a dog still got everybody's money so yeah I don't know the problem is you know it is a definitely interesting man I mean we are at the end of the era we're at seven months in this

year has been really slow I think everyone's pretty over twenty twenty we haven't officially hit the second wave yet and we're already having like these surges in California which it's not even the second wave it's just this is basically our first wave where people the social distancing stuff worked people celebrated early as if we had the vaccine and of course you know it went to what we were fearing before except this time we have more effects more more more testing available yes I guess it's a good thing and we didn't couple months ago but yeah it's happening the same way everybody pretty much thought about a bit it was coincidentally like a couple couple months ago before he got really bad my friend was saying that how he's just hanging out with his other friends and basically you know as long as within the

last 14 days there was no symptoms that it should be cool they maybe they were going hikes and stuff but that's exactly how California is spreading the virus is between family gatherings and friend gatherings like Chris I mean what else what other ways is it you think you're just gonna touch a tomato that someone else touched a day before and that's how you're gonna get it it's just like it's more it's you hanging out and breathing on each other then the mass falls off and then you're eating barbecue in the backyard so it's disappointing it sounds like it's gonna be longer and thankfully we don't have any of those floridans and I'm sorry Texans that have like those arguments inside the city hall about how like wearing an ass is like kind of like a bit like wearing one like a mad dog or something like a muffle I don't know you see any of that like it's pretty and so now people are reacting to wearing masks

or not yeah no I'm sure we have people like that in California too quite frank oh yeah we do like on set clips and all yeah yeah yeah exactly exactly there was one in Orange County that's right isolated is I'm looking at single out I look at single out Texas and Florida on that there's just you know some folks are just some folks want their freedom I guess you know are just tired of it all right so don't understand the pier the perfect meme to sum that up that I saw was the idea of like people peeing on each other right so if one person wear pants that image that image sharing that on Facebook yeah yeah so people if two people wear pants and one pees on the other it's more and less likely that you're gonna get peed on I mean that's the same idea that I for some reason I don't understand what especially in the Western countries they there's a strong resistance to how it

works or not in Asian countries where they've been through this a few times everyone's where mass even when it wasn't a pandemic they were just for out of courtesy of being sick or not but uh yeah man I definitely appreciate Canada a lot more to be into being in this disaster like I just we are really not do you miss Canada after all it's just hearing all your Canadian friends being taken care of it month a month and not having to fuss over living for yeah for sure for some folks yeah you know that's a way better situation for or at least you know yeah or at least the universe stimulus checks are gonna still be coming right we got one do do we do it yeah do I miss having a sane government yeah maybe you know but you know like it's I'm doing fine we're doing fine

right now and you know it does it's a little inconvenient it does suck being home but you know took your passing son like what are you doing playing games DD a man that you're falling into do you have a no are you know like have you gotten used to your monk life deef do you feel or do you feel like you have reached enlightenment like this generally no I Gerry like staying inside I journey like staying home so this slow like the first first two months was a to three months out I was like this is great it's fantastic but now yeah I know I got now I need to go out and and at least do some stuff um but uh he's pretty strictly yeah you're not one of those people hanging out a friend don't know like the only thing I only didn't have done recently was I went to we went out to dinner a couple weeks ago

I'll always outdoor diagonal and outdoor and that was that was being just be house honestly dude there was like eight to ten restaurants the last two weeks in Orange County that clip got closed down because somewhere at prove it within those restaurants so there's like a two-week ordinance to close and there was a ten the last week I was like holy crap man it's like opening a week you have someone would Cove it it's like my gym finally opened up lastly after three months and that was my biggest anger I try to go to no gym right now I had to man I lost so many gains be you're back in your backyard or on the side of the house or something but nah you can't you can it's just so many pushes I can do

before I felt like I was getting like I tried the body be calisthenic things like let me get into this a bit like a week you know like man this is not the same I'm sorry yeah it's using body weight right now but uh it's been quite a changed man and I'm pretty sure that Jim's gotta closing in as soon as someone I walk in the gym I see these questionable people like most of them don't even wear masks or they wear it like this right a lot of those people they wear it like ready yeah idiots which is which is useless yeah which is kind of like the meme where like you're working underwear underneath your penis this is like the same idea is like your penis hanging out where that's just the same but yeah I'm on this this year is dragon like I was the same with you man the first two months it was like you are cool I mean I was used to

working at home so that wasn't too bad but like being forced to be at home all the time that was new but my Justin it was probably less scary then everybody else is but yeah 7 months 7 months is too long did all the guys I think the worst part is because it hasn't been several months since March sure part [ __ ] five months right it feels like said March April April May May juju July it's like four it's like four months man so yeah yeah well what makes it worse is that is that you have friends and family right that are like constantly enticing you to go out or not and I don't know if your family is hanging out as much because my family is a lost cause like I can't no matter how many depths and symptoms and like even with recoveries that people come back with this have like long term damage that they don't

know how much long-term families like I think I can beat it I think it beat it it's like what makes you so special man at the world is dying right now it's it like some young like young folks you're exactly young folks but I think a lot of it is just a lot of business they're doing whatever they can see like well my mental health is way more important it's like dude what are you talking about good yeah it does affect your brain College definitely a fixer mental health right but I was like mental is Matt his sort of heard yesterday is a friend of mine who will remain nameless it was like he said oh yeah I'm going to UM go to Vegas like this weekend for a park for a 40th birthday party and I was like oh my what last birthday party right 48

he was like no and then he was like then I'm like yo like we are you driving like super cheap right now and I'm like how you gonna go to a birthday party in Vegas and beat and be safe right he's like oh yeah we're gonna social distance where we eating together [Music] people use social justice just to like fit in I don't think people understand yeah it's so sad anyways let's get to it yeah I mean it's just depressing dude oh let me see what I can do here let me try to spaz this up so uh so the focus of today's roundtable is kind of looking at the police station 5 News I mean I was able to browse through it and I don't know if you saw the whole thing overall it's pretty cool is pretty citing um it wasn't as crazy to me as

the you know Unreal 5 tech demo of course not right but it was impressive I mean you can definitely tell that that there was a jump in graphical fidelity and more things on screen than usual right the PlayStation 4 for sure but it wasn't a quantum leap that we were all hoping for right but I think that's gained about we kind of expected this kind of stuff let me get this going actually set this up for us so yeah I mean was there any game in particular that you felt was a standout actually actually in playing prep Ratchet & Clank he actually oh I have to give it to insomniac man they are very good at keeping their franchises alive like they

really yeah we'll get to it oh I'm also angry myself action oh yeah [Music] there we go turn it off okay good so ya know yeah when we get to it right there's a part of Ratchet and Clank Oh were you going through the dimensional portals of the warps right you know that art is showing the power of the PlayStation 5 start showing like this is something that you cannot do on PlayStation 4 right this is showing the speed of load the SSDs and and that is I think a really interesting way to show that new functionality in a way that impacts gameplay right which is more than just graphics the worlds were incredibly detailed but still could load really

really fast that is that is a perfect example of why you would want to buy the PlayStation of five right there's other games that are like mad just minor upgrades over PlayStation 4 but the ones that row like we're made exclusively for PlayStation 5 we're just crazy amounts to detail right the graphic quality itself didn't really increase that much but the level of detail is is is a lot like way more detailed worlds and it's crazy mm-hmm so this is a this GTA's this is the most disappointing of us so this is a lot of talk was about the GTA how GTA 5 kind of survived like three console generations right and there's not an ounce it's oppressive for rockstar it's great for them of course in you know take to to kind of figure out that

formula where they don't spend eight years making a game yeah so it was great for the developers but I think for as a gamer you're kind of disappointed because to me it felt like there the single-player life of GTA's is dead right they're not as yet worst in my world it kind of sucks I mean I loved you TLC it was a story but nobody know like GTA the next GTA will have a single-player story right like I imagine a will and it will probably double down even more on GTA online right but um but you know they're just gonna make sure that they it's something that will blow your mind away and give them time to make the thing at the scale they want to make it right but definitely you know bringing GTA online to PlayStation 5 it's just you know it's a move to make more money right cuz I'm money on GTA online right so is this another platform to get be there and

make money right so why why not why not do that this guy me at first I thought these guys are included because they were stiff right did you get that feeling that I was like oh man they'd 3d render this on the PlayStation 5 you know what it was is it's the it's the really plain backdrop and that really sharp image quality that kind of makes it look like me yeah yeah it's cool I mean it's if that was intended to be there's kind of it it's kind of an aesthetic and aesthetic that they're going for you know yeah if that was on purpose it's cool cuz I definitely got fooled I'll say wow that's impressive yeah all the footage about the sea has been captured so this this was ratchet right no though this was spider-man yeah so

yeah this is like you know a spider-man upgrade okay and I think my favorite game of the PlayStation 4 generation it's definitely spider-man like that game is amazing I finished it off the DLC finish the DLC like the game's dope right so now you're gonna add mouths mouths paralysis the mix the graphics there look incredible right um and then yeah you just get me the same gameplay make it look a little bit better and put Miles Morales up in there like yeah I'm playing this like mmm like no doubt yeah is it crazy impressive like is this like hey this is what PlayStation 5 is giving me I'm not really but like it's a good-looking game and it's it's a really good-looking yeah

that's a that's a insta insta like for sure yes oh here's this guy ran this completely skipped PlayStation 4 there wasn't a Korean Tourism on on--for at all right yet no there was there was a was a sport yeah great Turismo sport I thought that was kind of like a in-between for their next one wasn't it it's pretty full fight 8 didn't have a lot of cars oh yeah but it wasn't yeah it wasn't a solid like number numerical Gran Turismo yeah sure but it was it was a you know I think I think that's the only Gran Turismo on PlayStation 4 right so and honestly it took honestly the this is these images I was not impressed yeah to

money this right here is good like that right there it's kind of showing off like some some raytrace reflections right so you know it's gonna be it's gonna be rate race for reflections all over the place as you see everything shiny right mm-hmm but I'm still like like that's all it's really giving me you know I mean it looks good though like like no lie looks good but when you're playing it's not a necessarily look at this good right you know they're using the cinematic bottles and all that kind of stuff right so I don't know like I I uh and I'm and see what it looks like but I wasn't like completely blown away by this hmm let's see this is number seven right the six was for PlayStation 3 correct it wasn't a six wings yes II skipped one the sport was always was one of those like it was like phantom pain was it phantom pain what was the one Ground Zero that to our Ames before over

there yes it's the sport is not a two-hour experience it's like a full-on grand joyful game it's a really big game right but he just didn't have a lot of cars they didn't have a lot of cars in it but it's a pretty big game I didn't really feel like it was like something stripped-down Gran Turismo experience when I when I played it you know yeah man this took too long this is like one of the situation where development took too long and you're looking at old graphics right but how many fours that came out before this is announced that looks so good it's they basically just they just vomit out forces at this point really it's take two different skews that they just keep coming out with rights and Lifan ii take their time right i don't doubt that the listening a bit feeling like a real car and the racing and the controls and gameplay is gonna be the best no doubt about that

but the graphics here is very aged like I've I feel like I've seen current gen games that look better than this as it driving you yeah this is like this disappointing I don't think I don't think it's coming out at launch right and so they have time petuzi long that's you um here's the game here's the game I'm talking about right here um this is ratchet no yes yeah it is but it's cool that they did the portal thing I'm curious how that I see little you're saying this is the fuller you say out of everything is set the fuller processing yep our PlayStation you know this the first shader going on look at the amount of detail in this world doesn't amount of stuff going on it'll start doing some gameplay in a minute but it's yeah it's

this is good you see like some translucence effects look at the amount of detail it's it's kind of it's just bonkers he looks getting there right here and right here loading a new level boom right like what it's intended that's impossible but that's just impossible alright so a level boom full level detail like what this is condition system showing off showing off at this point that's no this is definitely the nearest Unreal 5 tech demo and of course it's a different style but to me it was the closest out of all the demos that felt like a huge jump yeah it looks fun man I'm I'm actually looking forward to playing this one I mean yeah games are usually really fun right so yeah I've always liked the spirit on a spiral of Crash Bandicoot all those type

of games jak and daxter I used to play all those on PlayStation 2 so this is developed by the North Carolina team right because there's TV insomniacs to use I know folks that were working in the Burbank office that worked on this so okay they're just helping out but no Lauren I thought the North Carolina team was the main team work on retching playing where's this guy just do they say that studio belongs to we have multiple studios like that though like you're gonna have everybody there's all ha you know all hands on deck make the game have two games that are going on in the same studio right so sure but there's always a to Kemah rain or to kiss Joey [Laughter] what you being like that a man I didn't

I didn't make that dichotomy dude it's not my fault I was originally I should turn the lights on when I am there you oh god don't be on behalf of the listeners we appreciate you finally other lights okay you tell the difference dancing it's not legit now sound like I pay somewhat but not really you pay for my mic if I know right I've been trying I keep thinking everybody's like man I gotta get him the mic but I just keep forgetting to send it to you but I'll pay for you the money as a thank-you since retching thank you yeah it's for actually payment but uh like just the you know gameplay like you're playing and shown two different the portal stuff and of course you see the

raytrace reflections on the floor yeah like doing a portal change right here one two that's like a three second load of a whole different level you know I mean do you know any friends at insomniac because I know that you use a proprietary engine oh yeah that's a great custom made but with how's the usability of it is it just the same as areas oh yeah I have no idea quite frankly I should ask some folks I know I guess this is different than what they used on spider-man right or are they using the same one I think they might be the same engine for exactly yeah it's it's I'm always curious about that like the Sony Studios I know insomniac wasn't a so Gnaeus to you until recently but their first party studios are always

using proprietary engines that's uh but looks great like you know you say you could say they suck but the games that are making are second to none at this point like some really great looking games you make it yeah that's what people say if I call duty but I still say them and they suck the tools so easy.you weights yeah you always hate the engine that you have right like that's that's the golden rule all right mister unity sounds like you love this guy yeah no but like like know every every PlayStation Studios game that they've come out with the last two three years I've just blown people's socks off right like high quality so what do you think that's about right is it like the inner competitiveness how

how are they still able to kind of keep pumping out hits i think i'll different state but i think i think all these places have they'll take their time i think they'll just come out with a game every one or two or three years right these are games to come out and it's like the last one came out six years ago right like they mmm they take their time right and of course we hear of all sorts of you know work-life balance stories and crunch and they'll edit all of these places yeah but the the games that come out of there out of a lot of these companies are just really well done because they they just take the time polish Polish polish yeah so we're watching project agafia for the podcast listeners i keep forgetting that people list designed this is gonna be so this is the fantasy is that square enix right this is korean yeah that one looked really it you see that was a

original IP right yeah starting I see you didn't like the dark fantasy like ah this guy this is the cat game right yeah the guy came it's straight so this guy what's his name coupie Kleenex do you remember his name the main developer for this so he makes like a lot of these unreal for tech demos um a few years back I know Ronaldo loves this guy and if you finally decided to make this game that's been kind of teased for a while and right now what we're seeing is a bunch of like like an alien urban alleyway with the cat kind of walking through the environment and there's no humans existing whatsoever it's just robots doing human stuff and it has a very

interesting part style and I need to read more on this but I think the team is very small too they created this this is being published by Annapurna that's standing up all the are they the biggest and the publisher player right now out of everybody I don't know through the biggest but they're deaf their name comes up a lot for sure not a lot but a little bit fur and if they say yeah if they say this is captured captured on a Playstation five like yeah that looks really good that's really smart to going with cats you know that's gonna sell like bonkers cats I'm a dog guy so yeah people of calculus but yeah there's just so many good thing to about this whole video um

after I was watching it I was just like Sony is all about games they love video games and so they showed high end Triple A from their from their first party studios they showed Russia a bunch of indie stuff some middle middle-of-the-road double-a looking stuff many different types of genres many different types of play styles like they were just like look we have games like you come to come to our system this could be all of these games you're gonna be here for you right um which is something that I have to say that your boys at Microsoft haven't really shown quite yet my voice I'm with so many fan so like this 3d audio thing has been being pimped a lot

I since under demo ok so they're showing the controller now and I would love to know your thoughts about the look at the console in a bit but what's so special about the 3d audio again I don't understand I feel I feel like isn't that more about with my Sonos set up then PlayStation only what does the place they should do and it's about giving you a sense of immersion right so then the if the PlayStation is dedicate hardware that to do all these special effects it relieves the main thread the main processor for doing actual game stuff and you could do this really complicated audio stuff on this dedicated processor right so you could get more immersive effects and sound cheaper right though the thing that you really should be asking is will we finally give audio guys more budget to do you have your stuff and still wanna still one guy the last two weeks of

shipping it's this thing they're not gonna have time it's nice that they dedicated some chip wear but they're not gonna turn out sure all the audio folks are super happy about this right but it's like yeah you know are we gonna give them the budget to actually do it yeah you still got two weeks just we're taking that processor to it's about this game right here I'm a big housemarque fan I think every game the house mark makes is pretty dope this is a big departure from the type of games that they usually make can you Frank give a little back story of how smart then what else is in the house mark has made a bunch of PlayStation games that are like top-down twin-stick shooters it so they're dangerous like 60 frames you know I can't remember well what was it wrestled then yeah resogun was their most recent game okay um and you know residence is a great game and they had

some other games that I can't remember right now but I'm always super impressed with their games and then I saw this I'm like house mark is making this this is crazy like this is completely different for what they usually make mm-hmm and then later on here around here I think of the video you'll start seeing a whole bunch of bullets getting shot everywhere and I'm like oh yeah okay that looks like a house barking no but it's just is no longer a twin-stick top-down it's not you know third-person control shooting things and looks like a horror curved IPS shield the bullets everywhere yeah that's how Sparkle I do like the context of it it's playing with the Groundhog Day looping effect mixed with Dark Souls so it seems like every time you die you got to start over which is really trending the last few years um I would say like but I don't think the

graphics are that amazing from what I've seen that video while they're bloody sit right there used to having the camera far away you know like yeah that's a small team though I can't remember I don't know man that's not even that's not even excuse where I've seen small teams make great graphics man first for shader for shader going on here this one I missed I didn't I don't remember seeing this one it's a good so it's like a little Tigers stuffed animal a little big planet absolutely yes right yeah very surprised they came out with this one I thought they were gonna fully dedicate to dreams which they just released straight yeah but this is on medium alright this is a different dev studio also sumo sumos making this oh did they give up the IP well so he owns

the IP right cuz Media Molecule Sony company but it's [ __ ] up it's like a bar shocked by shock one CEO seen a bash at game though is the pre game we have Sackboy the kids slow sack boy this is yeah Mario game wassup yeah and if you do a Mario game right like it could be a really fun game to play and it looks pretty cool so like I'm a bad man you user generated games I've talked about this in the podcast with several guests even in the last you to X ray we had one speaker kind of dedicate to that it's an emerging market right it's huge it's gonna be huge it's the closest to a modding community in this generation that we have had recently since counter-strike mati oh yeah you don't

build it I don't think you build anything this I think it's just a Mario game you haven't shown anything like that's why I'm assuming because they haven't shown any sort of user-generated content here right that's [ __ ] no one wants to place sack point Sackboy was like a mascot that looks bland yet for a reason yes tech boy and you want it and you want it your own kid IP you're gonna go for it like this what's up yes I mean Sonia does that with their playstation allstars every few years they feel like they can copy Nintendo or yes copy the $10 a few years and fail miserably because it's not what our core audience is about now this game I do not like I don't know man I just like

twisted metal or something so this is like a to put car crash right now characters turning it on with rag dolls it's twisted metal that you can get at your car and run around and I'm like why are you getting out of your car though like what's going on and but the destruction looks amazing in the cars the level of destruction is is really detailed but still I'm like why are you running around is that goal the gun actually it was important for - yeah and they're trying to show all the different characters right like like all these different goofy looking characters so that's probably gonna be a focus I'm like but but why right like I'm confused because people like seeing themselves in games rage that's where the money's at so we can sell hats and masks see I would understand it if they did kind of like rocket League where

they're playing the riffing off of hockey right or another sport mm-hmm I don't know if that's the case but they did not showcase that and all they were showcasing the characters well their phone case the characters and the destruction on the cars but but they should have showed more gameplay what the goal of the game is it would have been more successful now this game that you're about to see is very very pretty very pretty I really did skim through all this I don't remember yeah what I saw from PlayStation was just they completely focus on gameplay which is smart ah this one okay but this is gorgeous yeah I knew a couple friends that worked on this before they left and I guess this county has quite a history and if

you're telling me that this was captured on PlayStation 5 at this quality don't believe it so it's pretty good well here's the trick right when you say somebody's captured on the device you'd only say I'm what great what frame rate they captured it at right but uh but still like yeah this this this is great it's cool so I'm seeing kind of like um it actually reminds me of a PlayStation 3 game art style forgot which one but it has like a kiddush fantasy look to it looks like an adventure RPG there was a game in Play Station 3 that of course it's not as high fidelity but it kind of reminds me of that kind of kids adventure Zelda or feel that this is

kind of going with social titles like what's that game in pick Pickman yeah they have like these little cultural characteristics Oh guys funny around that's cool this looks really cool this looks good man she's real good I got like I really like oh look at that that's great like yeah like the like you know stylized stylized our style and yeah that's just it Kim yeah yeah well you're the PlayStation 4 game isn't at least for these demos aren't like crazy impressive like unreal 5 tech demo but you could definitely tell there's just more things on screen that crunch and Cannell you're sure it's everything's just looks more fuller which is a huge show

and so this one this what I mean when I say Sony just loves games cuz in this game is like like a completely different type of thing yeah and you know and it's getting showcased you know as part of Sony's thing right alongside Spider Man and all these other big Triple A games and it's like an indie title about you know dinosaurs going to high school 10 5 what tiny she's really nice going okay well that's what it is right like that's what you're seeing here yeah you didn't like this area's completely yeah probably skip this goodbye a volcano hi and it says art styles not the ourselves definitely not my cup of tea it's not my thing it's a style for sure I mean it's

consistent it's a very consistent and good art style so what's the game is like story base it's like a story based gaming and you're at high school and I think he plays one of those dinosaur characters so you're just playing like a dialogues dialect reason all right like sorry so you just sounds like hey we have different types of games or what type of game do you want to play we got you right all right you know one thing I was surprised about this they didn't talk anything about their VR sit no it was very surprised oh this guy meant oh this guy see him like at every I think I saw him that your unity whatever you did because it's hashtag made with unity odd world yeah I met him at the section when I was working section studios like look Larry you know he was kind of looking for an external development and we were talking

to him it's old man he kept at it and it's being made well this is definitely huge IP yeah you will see the Vegas and gameplay bits it's you know the ever really high quality bar when it comes to art mmm and the quality of their art and the game is pretty fun Jose it's a cool idea I think they could do a lot more with this IP even like shows and comics and stuff the world is very realized like this this looks good breath I'm not mad at this that's good destruction destruction explosions going on train delighting yeah actually I could be with unity breath yes that's what's so cool

it's cool do you know who's uh who's developing this for them for that guy yeah they have a bunch of the developers but I don't know who it is right now you're the main one is I don't think I've ever played at an odd world game all the way through I just really like he didn't play Abe's Oddysee back in the day I remember seeing it but I never played through it so it is it's like a combination of a little bit of lemmings right and prints or yeah but it was a soul storm is kind of amping it up but it's definitely some lemmings you have follow followers she told them what to do but you could like give them weapons and the day to start wrecking shop and then that one is I will sort of like destructible and it's it's it's crazy right you supposed to rescue them

and take them to the end of the level right nice address and you can craft your own weapons out of different things you pick up and yeah it's it's it's a really interesting game don't ya this yeah this was intense thank you no no no feelings yeah easier oh wait no it was the alien one yeah yeah and I was just kind of like okay this is this looks okay sure I thought it was hacky sack yeah he's dead with the alien twist or something that's not as I started events no I came over in the name of the game at all right now um yes this games what's this this games giving me like alert this will give me like a killer 7 vibe

honestly if you ever played killer 7 like I kind of gotta buy like a missus so we're obviously in Tokyo Japan there's a lot of like masked figures more psycho seen a little bit of horror vibe with it some kind of Bioshock plasma going on you know typical Japanese Oh weirdo directions what does it tell face oh no no this face face the unknown the that's really crazy it also I it's a whole name 2021 yeah that's again that looks like they

were making it for PlayStation 4 and they're like yes ok yes sure you throw it on plays eating bugs exactly yep I'll try to sneak one in there yeah and again it's launched out of there a mixed bag man it's always like that something you're gonna get an upgrade to play search for or yeah exclusive game I was surprised to see horizon man that did not feel like six years how long it's quick what is a legit sequel or was it expansion if it feels like I might just be it seems like it might just be a it's a sequel but it's not like a full-on like they're using the same engine same tech maybe adding some new stuff here and there right I like this a lot better it looks a lot better but not like not like crazy

leave some pals better you know mm-hmm I think I think in horizon when they do the underwater part I thought that believe my mind I was like whoa that looks really good right so so there's definitely like a quality increase but yeah you know it's the same engine decima that's my engine right this game we're not even talking about this one and I'm just like I don't even know what to say about this you know what this is what is this seeing a lot of but - Lansky with really low poly our style of stylize sure alright let's call it apply there's a sky seeing some more bad fluid animation this is gotta be indie what is

this what's the project so far sure she'll be nothing here nothing happened oh like a holiday 2020 yeah snacks that's right that's from the the folks that did sword and sword and Sworcery hearing that didn't look so great maybe the story is really good yeah you know it's good for an indie title look really nice this is from gearbox publishing oh yeah this one yeah I was kind of height for the same quite frankly and then the more I see of it it's God fall the more I see of it I'm like I don't know we hide from it man the first time I saw God fall I was disappointed because that was the PlayStation 5 game that they showed well

they showed the first one I think they showed Xbox series X thing first thing up for xbox 360's well yes we mean scream you know all the platforms but like I like these type of games and but then the more I see the more I'm like I don't know man did the art of this channel everything's of shiny that was my first complaint everything's unnecessarily mean and shiny Huckaby as as blunt as you're being right now well who's making this this is like a respected developers of it this is from um who's making it as a counter play games having games yeah I didn't know gearbox published games did I thought they were just yeah they started they started publishing from people so they started to grow but

their thing was this promising false promises and so this is a silver ash I wrote not about that yes this this also looks interesting too like I don't know what this game is I no idea how what's going on but I'm like not interested to hear more or to see more so these are your developers of hyper light drifter is there Nick yeah yeah a lot of anime influenced for sure yeah I don't know what this is no idea this is when it comes to teases man I'm always like I get it when you just want to show a little to incite curiosity from there

comes the moment where you got just got it like it clear insight curiosity right but if part of your style like this part here I was like you know yeah I'm [ __ ] are you yeah if your style is is to be weird and different make you think right then then the more obscure it is the better rheticus it's kind of how folks are approaching it yeah I always I'm always cautious with people who whose messages about obscurity because it either our magic nieces or complete [ __ ] right that's there's a thin line between those look well they already they already made a game right so I think right I think I do they know something we keep falling back on that

but for me once man all right so this is a hitman hitman yeah no yeah no it's I believe is it man yeah see that's that's strong art direction man if I can just tell by like the feeling of it a short well they showed homeboy in the beginning right this oddity you know a disputed here okay hit a Trump parrot I office oh you didn't have his red tile I think he finally figured that that was just exposing himself too much you don't really blend in with a full black on black suit with a red tie your smart man but this is just another game that has they use a custom custom in-house engine um so do you know any story behind them

using that engine no not much story no I decide I do know that they it has better - it has pretty good tools but of course it you know like I said everybody complains about the engine that they have run round unity so they definitely completely different to play about those ones - good for good reason for good reason a lot of times - yeah mostly programmers well I guess unity they you guys still work on your tools so I know what is this if they still hit or do they switch your different game you know there's no gate man stood oh yeah they're not showing gameplay though yeah this is where I felt like oh they're gonna show gameplay and then they didn't rate trace rate race for flexors though

they're showing you a lot of that yeah is this hitman three is that what they're saying yeah hitman three yeah there's only three and you're and you're like well there was there was it man it meant - and then there was hit man they didn't deny - oh man so confusing it I think it was statement - and then they then the biggest hit man that came out was just called hit man again there is reset the numbering and now this one is hitman three I don't need that one of their this is their yard box thing right there that's that's being Nintendo right let's let's make a kids a kids game the kids who want to play right it's to half ass man there's nothing appealing about this I would say

if something appealing right it's like it's like it's not a girl it's not a character thing yeah do you think that character kids out here are dying to play but I I don't think so I agree with you but you know but that's the problem with their mascot with sac pointing that astral I think it's called Astro right the little robot those are supposed to be real and because they were presenting something else all right with sac boy was the user generate stuff supposed to be playing an Astra was kind of demonstrating more of the VR features they were never meant to be the the main stream this one yeah the interesting I love this I love so see this is how you do low poly man this is little poly boy but the purpose isn't art stuff i one thing i hate when people use low poly and they call it art styles like bro you just don't know how to model but this is

you could tell this team knows how the model they just they just they chose to uh to go with his art style so what's fantastic this looks amazing somewhere else do that it was racist with the environment to make it realistic to contrast and your poly man this is someone knowing what the doing man all praise yeah I love it this is who what else do they make the studio I can't remember the Stevens's love it it's like a French baby so artistic oh yeah see it I want to explore with this guy so it looks like an open-world RPG and this is get shitty there's a sense of humor in it looks

like a sword fighting some some some combat seasons got some gun stuff and it's fun animation like this the thing was only like 80 Polly's man scariest thing I've ever seen that's cool this is awesome like this just like we have art direction but we know yeah yeah little devil yeah little devil inside yeah even together that was my stand out favor right there out of everything I mean I love the ratchet too but to me that new IP was very excited because I know nothing about yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah your friends are here dude how are they doing how they doing the next game well I guess out of everybody but

like super stars all the time and make things work do doing a brand new game every day every time but that the flying Zion did I'll say though like even this um the thing that impressed me the most was that shot right there yeah and even though I was like this way looks this one looks a little weird but but it looks like the skin looks good the big character is a stand up the environment for this one the lighting for this and why experience but the character was like so realistic yeah it's not gonna sweat the sweat kind of ruined it but um Amen it's a sign sweats you don't know does he sweats in Italy and it looks like a two-bit math on his face yeah it's how I

sweat Steve do you think Saiyans gonna be the next big superstar like the big superstar after LeBron and go no each sons a long way to go but that's what every token for him but we'll see at this game here I don't know what this game is this game is crazy I said we're seeing a strawberry that's stylize walking through the blades of grass a lot of people with Emily were like Google yes yeah a lot of people I know we're like I'm buying this game immediately and I'm just like yeah it's hardly just hipsters living in San Francisco didn't know you know it's indie game from the same people that did Octodad right oh okay yeah I know that guy yeah it was like Phillips I'm still yeah I'm still confused a lot to give you

alright so see alright I trust them gonna hit this guy up then we've had on the pub would bug snacks is what this game is called yeah they're go realistic where you go super weird man and that's and this makes it a lot of they're like yeah yeah I played this game this game is amazing have no idea what this game is and this is also using a custom engine oh really yeah does that surprise you in any development team design their games every custom mentioned is that very common am I missing out here it's definitely not very common but it says it's not that surprising if you feel that you know no

other engine can do what you wanted to do and then you get from even up if you at once then you now your engine to something you're familiar with you know the tools you know how to make stuff with it and that you can get here Indy and you could spend you can spend the time you could build off of it yeah how how how realistic of making an engine an asset for an indie company anymore I mean the hopes of it being sold off or being actual value of the any company is that a thing anymore or oh you mean if they sold it you know so like commercially not just commercially but does it bring value to any company to have like a custom engine anymore well I think a breed will look at it differently you know I think it brings value like in terms of like you know how it works you know the ins and outs of it

you know exactly what it does what it's capable of you know every line of code every tool that is used in it that's valuable right mmm but the question is how valuable is it what's the risk versus the reward right yeah do you really want to spend time writing an engine or do you want to spend time making a video game all right great that's don't do it matters that's mathematics that people have to do for themselves right so so don't do it just this is from just from software this is a just even Souls right so this is this a remake right remaster or is it a new life honey I was confused it's the it's the measles yeah so sorry master the kid sorry that gets a sequel is it a sequel see I get some confused with the names

now I loose track them because they're so similar there's Dark Souls it is that before I believe ya believe which one was the first one I thought was demon souls the first one yeah so they have the same name and then they did Dark Souls and then this is demon souls like I think there's a subtitle on it but I can't remember what the subtitle was but things are good again so it's a it's not a remake or remaster it's a completely new IP from the same team but it's but if something is published by her from from software though listen blue point is in the pub she know about this game here but this game here that no that's

blue hole that's me but um this game here looks really interested I like the style I like what they were going for it's playing you're ending with the groundhog mean it's like the second game yet and then Boop it's very trendy yeah it's it's also a good way it's also a good way to save on a Content cost right it's smart man I mean it is a very gamey mechanic I'm surprised not a lot of games do it until this year [Music] but like I guess you know it's arcane I get that no one this right uh yet no one this forever pipes you know it's just it's just good art because you just write the same this is the thing or the hair macstew the players and then later on it kind of feels like it could

possibly be a co-op game or adversarial PvP type of game our king was has been very impressive to me our player feel like look okay knows how to make games like you know like Bioshock right is it you see you get a you live by shock from this system shock like that that's the time games they make with with prey and what's that the one Doug I can't but someone tip of my tongue and I can't it's honor Dishonored yeah like they they know it's a yeah is they're very like unique and there's like the the the development studios that kind of remind me of like the PlayStation 2 hey days where these game C's were making kids after hits right and just have like a very strong core design team and every other discipline like the last one before our Cain was Rocksteady for me where like they came out of nowhere and

they just [ __ ] nail like game design from begin at the end those Batman games were the most polished type of games ever played and I feel like art King kind of plays along with the same vein we're beginning to end they have a very power plant barking yeah think about those systemic immersive simulation games right inside you sure I like it cool art now looks like yes now it's showing normal to play ish yeah and like they don't really say like what what this other character has to do with it right but she's trying to kill you you're trying to kill you trying level and kill these other folks right so I could see that kind of being like a to play a I hope it's kind of like the well it plays along more with like the left for dead things where mmm trying to

prevent players from completing their mission right yeah it's a nice break away from these player-versus-player competitive modes and it's been a while man left for dead has been kept in years but like mmm I'm very surprised now a lot of games kind of take that formula go with it I mean I guess payday ish kind of did that yeah yeah but like just everything everything about this I'm just like I dig this style the seventies Val - I like that yeah and you could play as homegirl - right yeah it's cool I like it yeah all right all right let's get through this baby along but of course yep of course like anything in there um did that look like a PlayStation 5 like you need a business card for it you know just look another

look look like a cool ass game though right look like a game you want to play right sure okay what's this this looks like one of those like PlayStation 4 didn't ship it one time so let's discuss me into why you ate me I can tell you this we can all tell so you didn't ship on Silas don't pay some fine alright let's [ __ ] it look yes honestly like I don't think there's any other games in this reel that really hyped me until the end until you saw Verizon right so yeah skip it let's skip it oh my ass is the world wolf one oh this one was crazy - this one was who made this one I forgot on the tip of my tongue - it was it kept calm it's had a

cat cop feel to it that's cool there she's showing like a holographic cat right now in what looks like New York City that has like a huge rari tentacle it looks like time-space froze she's like a tell I don't know what that is just amazing speechless glasses shattering gravity turned off you got this astronaut boosting around saving this little girl on his back it's like a Jima game to be honest if he made a space key that's why I thought too when I first thought I was like is this Cagiva but uh but I think it's cool meet a wire mesh to kind of stop a satellite from falling onto their

face and then he's falling in the skies going in some babies so this is so bad [ __ ] crazy where I cannot have prank my top yeah she's also gonna be on Xbox there's supposed to be an Xbox as well so ah it's cool it looks interesting like I mean they didn't reach or anything but you feel like yeah yeah let me check that out oh of course it's a cat you're right kefka catkin always makes those crazy sci-fi [ __ ] let's go keep going keep going we're almost done there this arisin right here that's it horizon yeah so it's just like 1.5 correctly it's in black you know you're gonna open do you I wouldn't even say that man like I'm in like this year that was really good so it's it's it's too fast for a sequel

which is why I keep wanting to say it's not horizon zero dawn - they don't even call it her eyes until done to you right so I mean but if you're building yeah it's not called for instance you're done - right so that looks great your building should say your building on the App Engine you amp up the tech amp up everything you're doing you depart right turn that around pretty quickly how long has it been it's been like three years doesn't it it's a pretty short man it's too short for another coming up this is coming out in 2021 I believe right and it's four years it's crazy for a triple you the it's an open world-ish game - it's crazy I still got a place through the first and I actually I went back to playing the first one again and yeah I'm diggin it it's a pretty good game cuz I kind of hard I found off of it kinda hard because of the pacing in the beginning you know and

so I didn't really get much I didn't I played for like ten hours and they really didn't really get that far into the game right but I finally kind of broke through that part and it's yeah the game's pretty good picking up the pace yeah I'm just glad for gorilla man they've always been up there and tired miss equality for me it's just that even though Killzone had somewhat of a niche audience it never really went hallo big right and then what else do they make after that it was mostly that and then this right there wasn't anything with tree head and like horizons like the their new engine write the decimal decimal engine which is proven to be a very good engine yeah our DS has proven that thinking you can make pretty good stuff with it because then Kojima used it for death stranding right so yeah looks good it looks this looks good Ben got mad I wish I was on my end it's it's

a the compression is killing it yeah let's go it's clean on this side see camera is getting hot all right man and that's pretty much it I think this is the last thing right yeah this is the last thing it was good love it alright so let me switch back real quick as I get this situated oh my god there's been a spirit of huge

yeah these people but Yemen that's that's that all right let me get you set up in here mmm oh yeah this is where they show the show the actual box lets official at the end all right so what do you think of the Boston are you fan knows alright it looks fine that's fine people had jokes and the jokes are always funny you know we always make fun of the hardware where

they first gets announced but yeah I know it looks look pretty good like it's fine yeah I mean I saw the could everyone at the same certain is the concern is is like what you compare the size like people were trying to compare the size of it to other things and it seems like seems like it's a really big console is it looking at it doesn't look bad now some people were doing tonight some parents based on the size of the the disc entrances slot as a controller and it's and it could be very it could be a very big box I think that looks pretty good looks like you know like a very standard you know consumer electronics device you know and it's so thick PlayStation 4 with the binder and it the more it was more interesting bit is

the whole digital edition right so like going full-on and embracing the digital from day one petals ah that's I still think that tells me that it's gonna be pretty expensive but is the new digital edition it will probably be what another 100 bucks cheaper or whatever only on our bucks just did not have the blu-ray thing yeah I think I think that's what I would expect would be like a hundred bucks cheaper so much what would you get mad because blu-ray is kind of out right it's not 4k blu-ray still still doing the thing but yeah most people are streaming right so it's really about what what do you do and what do you need I have a feeling I have a feeling though that it's gonna be pure Digital Editions that are gonna be available you know like you know so you're gonna go to sort one of the buy one and it's gonna be like that we only have digital edition right so mmm but like I when it comes to

game so I stream I downloaded all of my games anyways yeah I guess I'm at that place where I don't know which one to get at this point yeah yeah yeah as long as they have my account tied to these gains that I eventually will buy okay with that yeah and I definitely don't I definitely don't need a disk drive for games right no but I do have I do that 4k blu-ray so I have a few of those yeah you're the only one left it no one buys the other you know I want streams no you're right no no you're right you're right but like I said like I don't buy everything for cable I have a few choice titles that are like yeah that's that looks good the

difference between that and streaming is still very noticeable but you have to like you have to look at it side by side pretty much in this day and age mmm but yeah but Sony just came with it they just came with the games showing that ton of different games alright alright that's kinda what I I like seeing that I think that's good like they're like look we're coming out a new box and here's all the games you feel to play on this thing so then that's ramaya well let's make a prediction man like Microsoft I just I know we're going a little longer than usual but what does end it real quick Microsoft's going pretty hard with snapping up let's just call them second-rate like it's it's not not yet right maybe eventually they'll become like an IDE like I saw me act like a gorilla Gaines oh no maybe right I'll give them the

benefit oh oh that's not there that's nothing strategy though that's not what they're trying to do all right they tryna they're trying to just create a bunch of different game types right so they got in exile for this strategy games they got uh who else they by obsidian right they bought obsidian right for for like RPG type games they got they got the folks that did a horizon right playground games they also got a ninja theory for the action type games and so it's really a play to get a whole bunch of different types of games on a mess right and then and then you play your games anywhere you want on your PC on your Xbox on your Xbox one on your on your iPhone over Project X cloud like they're going for the subscription money right and if you're going for it subscription there's no reason you should be making horizon zero dawn which

is like 200 hours right um you don't want people paying subscription only playing one game you want them playing a wide variety of games right so then they're not going for like the high quality single-player experiences that Sony's going for they're going a completely different route and only time will tell which one which one of those works out but I can tell you right now after seeing the PlayStation 5 stuff like as far as I'm concerned Microsoft is getting killed off yeah but you never have but you know oh you never know what they will come with when they show their event in July right the more closer to end of July right there halos and stuff maybe they do have some tricks up their sleeve and it is good strategies they have to kind of avoid the head-to-head combat with Sony because last generation didn't work out too well maybe they do know that like the likelihood of them having a naughty

dog in their pocket or the gun Sami a-kor got a war team they don't they don't the subscription is probably their best bet where they just get enough people hooked to it where they have like a you know money flowing in but it feels like Sony kinda has that in their back pocket too so you know there they are fully dedicated to the streaming services I feel like so it's called this because in the end that lets you go to Netflix not just these guys they have a bunch of movies there's this one quality movies there right and that usually wins people over other content content is always king right but Microsoft is going the route of like we're gonna have content we're just gonna have a lot of it right would have a variety large variety of content that you could play anywhere like that's really what they

are going for mmm and they bought a pair and you're its monthly you'll pay us monthly for that privilege I don't know about that I feel like it's Annie like I tried X cloud 9 X cloud um their other one game pass the five dollar one yeah for a couple months and I just wasn't I stuck years in war and so Forza and I was like oh it's cute and then as soon as saw a Sony one I was like oh there's a lot more gains on this even though their web application sucks compared to Xbox because Xbox this win was right but the games was like I kind of like these games but like I will sit through this pain to play horizon zero dawn streaming then I don't you see PlayStation has a streaming thing yeah I

did same same deal the it's $10 a month and be it you can just play it on your computer and it's just fully stream yeah you talking about PS now right I think so is there a new thing yeah it might be a sell but you can play you've been her eyes on yes now I didn't even know that was possible it was on there I mean they pulled they pulled titles one set up and stuff off it got award the new Garda war was on there think they put pretty good hits on there once in a while and it's it's spider-man what's on there yeah yeah that's pretty cool the web application sucks alright oh yeah and you playing on PC on the PlayStation you can to tell Playstations PlayStation right but you know I like to play on PC sometimes it's just horrible I compared to the Microsoft version but

because the game is somewhere much more enticing and even if I you know if we're just talking about back-catalogue me a playstation justice wins dude it's just I don't know what Microsoft can do I just don't know Hot Shots on there to Hot Shots Golf yeah time to place issues yeah yeah man PlayStation 2 titles are insane compared to everything else so only Nintendo can beat them and in terms of back catalogue yeah anyways we'll see man I'm very surprised the consoles are still coming out in the year I feel like everyone's gonna be pretty sick by then to go buy new consoles to justify I think new consoles be perfect way to break up the monotony I guess I don't know man not even one has like a great salary as

if nothing happened like Rea over here people are suffering out there bro unemployment rate is high praise e I don't know it doesn't feel it doesn't feel like the timings right man they got a delay it did to me it doesn't feel like that you have enough consoles because China just recently just opened right so who's making all this Constance I want to thank you for your time ray that's been in light mmm yeah I mean I didn't watch the whole PlayStation 5 but it's cool to kind of get your thoughts on it and next time we'll resume back to to to all the greatest things I know where there's a lot of stuff that came out the last month that I'll just gather up then thanks much but as always it was great to have you on you're sounding better you know I'll be a month from now I'll have the new set you know I'm just the apartments kovat right now oh my god Tara temperance it's too hot yeah but

yeah I'll have it all set up and it'd be pretty cool man but thanks again for coming on and everything all right no problem man thanks for having me and I'll talk to you later talk to you later see you man all right [Music] you [Music]