“History Happens Every Day” 2027 Kickstarter Wrap-Up Stream!

[music] Kickstarter. You get caught up in the Kickstarter. Hi everyone.
Hi
Will. There's Will.
Hello.
We're here.
GREETINGS AND SALUTATIONS. WELCOME TO THE LAST HOUR OF OUR HISTORY HAPPENS every day extra history calendar kickstarter uh celebration stream extravaganza. Um Will and I are here with you hello across uh both channels. [laughter] Will's like I mean I'm half here.
I wouldn't call us an extravaganza. Like let's not oversell it, right? The real stars of the show are the backers here. We
That is true. But that's what makes it an extravaganza. I didn't say we were the extravaganza. I meant the campaign that the backers all did created an

extravaganza of their own making. A historical one, one might say.
Yeah. Okay. That defies historical precedent. Even
there we go. Hey, thank you. Thank the 1776. Look at that. Back that away. We are in the last hour or should I say 57 minutes of this campaign. Um, for those of you just joining us, uh, about a month ago, we [laughter] launched the Kickstarter for our third uh the third times a charm uh, uh, history happens every day calendar, which is basically a calendar that you get to Here's some of the old ones here. There's the 2026 one, right? Uh, and then I think I have a 2025 right here where there is uh a special uh and often underrepresented uh historical fact on every date and some of the pictures on the calendar dates has specific um lets you go to a QR code that lets you see videos that teaches you more about the history on that day. That has been the thing we've been working on um each year for the past

three years. And uh this year we went uh bigger and and harder than ever before. And we have a whole brand new slew of art from David Hoiso and Voodoo Val uh in the entire thing. You can check out the campaign in the link somewhere here on any of the videos you're watching. Uh to basically see if you would like to back in the last 56 minutes of this campaign.
Yeah. Uh, you know, let's Matt, let's I'm getting I'm getting news that we should go live to the street, and by the street I mean the Kickstarter, and actually look at at this
at this ridiculousness. Um, sure. Yeah. Okay, cool. Great, chat. Um,
you did this. Look, look at this. Look, look. Behold, behold that behold that 1454 calendars.
So, uh, this is an absolutely insane number. In fact, the the the amount that you all raised for this campaign um broke two of our [laughter]

two of our what we thought would be the last goals, right? Uh to the point where when you got to 90K or like when it was looking like it was going to get to 90K, we're like we have no like we had nothing else we could add into the campaign that would not slow down production. And the most important thing is getting these all out to you in a timely manner. So, we didn't want to like add like, oh, what if we did a Zoey statue or something? Do you know what I mean? Like, it's just not worth it.
Um,
but what we landed on, we'll talk. We actually did land on one specific thing that you did get at 90K, which we will get to. So, there's the what I was saying before. Essentially, there's dates in the videos, but if there's a grade out uh image, if you scroll down a little bit, will uh those dates with the specific images behind them, you can scan the QR code and go to one of our videos that teaches you more about what happened on that day. It's a great way to sort of like, you know, try to like learn something new and maybe watch something depending on uh which day you have it and what time you have.
Yeah. By the way, I love uh Oh, that's not going to show up here. Never mind. I was going to Brad is taking credit for

we did this.
Of course,
I thought it would.
Agreed. Uh obviously the art is historically inspired. We go with basic we go with like uh classic works of art that our artists uh Davido and Voodoo Val then transform to mash mish mash into pieces of history that we've done series on. Right? So here's star night but there's a wig and harass. Uh you know it was goes all over the place. I feel like many people watching this might already know this but I'm just trying to go through. We also added playing cards because we thought it was something that we would use every week [laughter] and we're like, why not make a set of extra history playing cards? Um Alli uh Extra History artist Alli Artham uh illustrated all of the face cards along with two extra jokers of Walpole and Zoe and of course that beautiful card back there. the thing we hit um essentially on the n uh when we hit 90k, we now are committed so long as it does not slow down production to to make shiny andor foil in some way the box

that the cards come in.
The talk box. Yeah,
the tuck Yeah. Uh not the cards themselves, mind you, but make the box that the cards come in foil. Uh if that does not slow down production, that was a thing we figured out we could add and we will go from there. If you'd like to learn more about playing cards, we actually did a wonderful episode on the history of them. There you can see that you also voted throughout this campaign on the pin that will hold up your calendar. You could have done history.
Yeah. C can I just real quick but but in here is the voice of the people.
Sure.
The will of the people. Now, why'd you waste time with the vote?
Why did you waste time with the vote? The like there was there was a horse. Okay, great. History horse is great. And the foreshadow, which is a bit that some people get. And then there's Zoe hanging out inside of a skull. This was the most foregone conclusion. Listen, I personally listen, we have so much Zoe stuff. I didn't know if people would would want something different. So, we wanted another animal. History horse has been around since the very

beginning. And uh I like how kind of you can't really see through the X, but he's terrified holding on to the push pin. Uh, and then the foreshadow is just one of those things that like I really enjoy because he shows up in history stories on our on our channel when we are saying one thing but you know it's going to lead somewhere else.
Yeah. No, it it is a literary device that we literally use to um to like help uh help help people get it. Uh, by the way, I think I think I fixed it. Hold on a sec.
I did. Now we can now we can summon chat. Uh, wonderful.
We also added to this campaign refrigerator magnets. There's a couple votes going on there that got uh you made the one of the pieces of the calendar, the Bismar uh going to also be a fridge magnet there. And there are some winners for some uh extra history shorts. You also backed a bunch of the uh super luxe limited edition um backer areas where you work with us to make

your own short. In fact, I think there's a few left. Um, we normally do eight a year. I think we've done four so far. So, if that's
done four,
so in 51 minutes, if you somehow want to work with us on making a specific extra history short, that is the way to do it. Basically, how that process works is uh you submit three ideas and you and Rob work through what it's going to be. Rob writes the script and then we make the thing based on your uh your input. We have a very pertinent question, Matt, which perhaps you will be able to answer.
Yeah. Let's go back to us on the camera while we do this.
Will the calendar and playing cards be available after the Kickstarter ends?
Yes. Yes, they will. In fact, but here's here's the here's the calendar kicker. Uh not as cheap. [laughter] We are basically doing these a lot of this I believe at or even slightly below cost depending on which element of the thing is making up stuff when these do hit our store. And um we are hoping that they uh will in a timely manner. Um the

the price will be going up because we can only offer this pricing due to the fact that the k that this is literally on a Kickstarter itself. Um so the cost will go up. I don't know off the top of my head at this point exactly how much. Uh, but if you literally at this point in these last 50 minutes of the campaign, if you're interested in any element of it, uh, heck, even if you say just wanted the playing cards, you could back at the $2 level then add on a pledge, right? Um, that that's going to be still even doing that will be the cheapest way I think to get those playing cards.
Yep. Um,
basically, uh, pledge pledge pledge two bucks. If you're if you're not sure, if you're like if you were if you were coming to this right now AND YOU'RE LIKE, I'M OVERCOME WITH CHOICE PARALYSIS. WHAT DO I DO? Throw us two bucks. Pledge at the $2 level. Worried about it in the in the um in the the thing, especially because we hit all the stretch goals. There are there are no more stretch goals.
There aren't any. I was Listen, I was gonna and I ran this by no one. I was

going to [laughter] say we try to come up with live right here and I I listen this campaign has gone above and beyond and you have been so enthusiastic and loving and supportive of this entire thing and we everyone at the studio thanks you so much for doing this. I also know the expectation of what these streams what what the end of a Kickstarter stream is supposed to be and I was like oh should we try to see what would happen if we got to 100k? Should we see like what would be the dumb thing that I promise on the fly that makes everyone's lives at the studio a living heck for 3 months to provide. [laughter]
Oh, I was thinking about like realistic things that we could DO RIGHT NOW.
NO. SO, SO HERE'S HERE'S my question to you, dearest chat. Um, and again, um, if you're on YouTube, uh, the way that we handle chat, extra history, I feel like I'm explaining things that maybe extra credits kind of gets more. Uh on Twitch, chat is called Brad. On YouTube, both

channels uh it is chat is called Janet. And on Nebula for our shows over there, it is Rocky because Rocky is silent. Um so if we say Brad, Janet or Rocky, that is whom we are referring to. So, so brainstorm with me. Yeah, exactly. Roller, this is it. The only stretch goal left is metaphysical. So, if we were in the last 48 minutes to somehow
Oh,
wow. Alex, I didn't know you were mad at me.
No, we're not doing that.
What would be some things that would be Actually, this is actually a really good question. Let's even pretend that that's not even remotely an option, right? What are some things you liked about this campaign? What are some things that you'd love to see in a future campaign? Like I'd love to just chat with everybody and talk through uh or any questions people have in the last minute.
Last 48 minutes.

Last 48 minutes. There's 48 of those last minutes as of right now.
By the way, we're we're we're currently clocking in at $95,000. We cracked 95. Uh which is
staggering.
So what would be chat? What would be the exuberant $100,000 stretch goal that I cannot promise, but if it's good enough, I'll I'll break it.
So, hear me out. Hear me out. $100,000. We uh open up a poll.
Mhm.
Based on what people suggest here as a thing that we add, we look into doing for next year. I mean, that's something we could very easily do.
That's like actually like a realistic thing, right?
That's a realistic one. But what if we got what if we got wacky with it?
Yeah.
Well, look at Will being all pragmatic.
Okay, I like this one. At $100,000, backers get to co-write an EC or EH series Twitch plays Pokemon style. Rob

will murder all of you.
I will I I would endure this at $100,000. Rob will kill all of you. Well, if it's EC, Rob wouldn't be writing it.
Yeah, but like
So Rob probably would laugh at that.
He would laugh at me because I would be the one doing it.
Oh my gosh.
At 100K, Matt cosplays a character from the calendar art. Which one would I cosplay though? Let's see.
I feel I feel like you could be Jon of Arc doing the Oilia thing.
The float. We need to find the silliest body of water and also get you floaties.
Floaties and a flag. An EC flag.
Yeah.
Let's see. I have a question. Are you with the council cult? Unless you're talking about the Gen Con panel uh that we just did.
Legally, no.

Legally, no. George Washington. Joan. Jones seems like something I I'm looking at the Jonah Mark part right now. [laughter]
I like I like RC's a million dollars. Do something worthy of remembering on future history calendar.
WHOA.
YOU KNOW, I FEEL like I feel like and and some fantasy nerds are going to geek out at this. I feel like we have a rather Telamascan approach to history, which is we are here to record history, not make it.
That There we go. Yeah, we're we're we definitely don't want to do that. Uh Christy asks, "Where's Zoe?" Zoe's sleeping on top of her tower. Tell you what, let's do this.
We get to 100K, we'll get Zoe.
No, no, no, no, no. If we get to 96K,
we get,000,
I will go get Zoe. And let me say how dangerous a 10:00 Zoey top of her cat tree tower grab is. Uh that is that is me putting my life in danger uh for the good of the Kickstarter. And if you've

never seen Zoe live on stream, it's also Matt putting his face in danger because one of the things that Zoe likes to do, especially when she's tired, especially in the morning, is make biscuits in his beard, and sometimes they're claw biscuits.
Yeah.
Uh Desiree says, "Uh, maybe you try a historical food drink recipe related to either one. Requested episodes are two most popular episodes." That's a fun idea. There's also um what's the is it Tasting History is the channel that's super super popular. They kind of do that. I'd love to God I'd love to team up with uh them or some other folks to do that cuz I don't know. I mean maybe that's the fun part. Rob and I do a cooking show. Uh that would go off very very poorly.
Especially because you two are 12 hours apart.
Yeah. So one of us would be cooking breakfast and the other would be cooking sleep. Uh, [laughter]
how do you cook sleep?
I don't know. Um, let's see what else did people say. The balance between historical accuracy and

entertaining 2D animation is tough. What is the most challenging part of researching a topic for extra history? Uh, I will speak for Rob and the writers. Uh, I would imagine actually actually I can't speak for them because that's who's doing the majority of all of that research. I would say though the tricky part with the first part of your question of sort of making it into an entertaining 2D animation is figuring out the the the best way to balance for a sort of like PG13 uh contentwise episode in 2D Beanard animation because as we all know history often is not uh clean. It is not sanitized. It is not um uh uh
monetizable on YouTube.
Well, this is another thing. Uh but like but my point being is I think trying to find the balance between the script and uh my narration and the art from the artists of

doing the balancing act of let's say we're talking about something really difficult like what do we show and what do we say and what do we tell in that regard that balances all out. though it still feels like correct and uh true to the subject material and also doesn't either seem too kitty or jokey or just be a constant bummer the entire time you're watching it. And I think uh the artists in particular do a really good job of helping to find the moments where levity can come in even in sort of a dark moment or like right after one. We try to like build it into the scripts where like if we're talking about something very specifically dark, I think um uh we have we have a series coming up uh very very shortly that handles some some very heavy material that we try to do this dance around. We're doing a series on Kent State and what happened there and the different things around Nixon's war and all that stuff. Uh so how do you turn a story like that into something that is not just pure sadness all the

time? Um and it is a it's a hard balancing act and we try to do it. We don't always hit it, but we try really hard. Hope that answers that question.
No, it's a it's a it's a it's a good question. Um
yeah, Pixie, uh uh if this is something you want fans of both of us, let them know. I'll reach out, too.
I'll figure out something to do.
Yeah. Okay. All right. Uh we had another uh Kickstarter question. Uh do we know all the face cards for the playing cards, or are some of them a surprise?
I think we've revealed them all. Have we? H should I just read them?
I mean, we're in what? Like, someone's going to come back and look at this and be like,
"Yeah, yeah, hold on. Let me grab the graphics." Uh, I can't show them cuz Will doesn't have them, but I can tell you every card and what suit it is.
And this isn't scuffed at all. So,
no. You know,
let's see. Graphics, playing cards. Hey, that's not right. Hold on. I'll find it. Will vamp answer more questions while I

find this?
I will. I I will. Will I vamp? Will I vamp? Yes, I will. Not will I am. Update 18. List them according to grass.
Oh, here we go. I Okay, here we go. I have the list. So, for the spades, the king is Kamehaha the Great. The queen is Kathina Schwartza. The jack is Vlad the Impaler. For hearts, we have Napoleon. Uh, for the king, the queen is Jon of Arc, and the Jack is John Brown. For diamonds, uh, we have the king is Monsamusa, the queen is Eleanor of Aquatain, and the Jack is Theodore Roosevelt. For clubs, the king is Alexander the Great, the queen is Chiang Sal, uh, Jack is Iben Batuda, and then the jokers are Robert Walpole and treasure hunter Zoey.
Very nice. Actually, I think you guys did what I just read, um, someone suggested on this campaign or or asked and then said they wanted and I think it was an excellent suggestion and we took it to heart instantly. We didn't I don't even think we put it behind a stretch goal. Maybe we did. I have no idea, but it's passed

by this point. Um, is an extra card in the box that has all the names and what like because you don't see the name on the card. It's just a playing card that has the K or the J or the Q, you know. Um, so there is a essentially like a key uh that tells you all the names of the people. So I'm very happy that we got that in there.
Yeah. Um, Alex asked, "When you first did the calendar, how'd you find a calendar manufacturer? How do you how does one do this?" The little behind the scenes, if you will.
Yeah. So, Alex, the interesting part of that is uh because we we did like t-shirts, pins, mugs.
Mhm.
And then and plushies. And then the only other weird physical object we tried to do and it never went through. And maybe one day we put up pre-orders and there weren't enough to do this. It was during our um
remember this
our four horsemen of the apocalypse uh series uh where we had David illustrate the most metal square plates that would

plug together into the four horsemen, the the historically accurate sort of from from the first mention or whatever horsemen of the apocalypse. and uh they're so outside of what we do. Uh and and we were going to make like metal hanging wall plates and it just there wasn't enough interest. That's totally fine. Maybe one day it'll come back.
Um
so when we the reason I bring that up is we like looked at a bunch of manu like manufacturers to do that. Um, and that put us in touch with a bunch of different folks that did a lot of different wall hangings. But at the end of the day, uh, we ended up working with Nebula, uh, and the and the people that they had in-house, uh, to not in-house, but the the people that they'd worked with with other creators, uh, to do that. And, um, yeah, and we've we've jumped around a bit. We moved around, but it was something where we and actually Jeff, I got to give Jeff a lot of credit here. Jeff basically Jeff and Cat I would say Jeff and Cat are the masters of finding the best quality place to build these things at the

lowest uh you know sustainable both in material and human cost that it possibly can be. Um especially cat specifically working on shipping and figuring out what all the shipping costs should be at the time. Um, we we learned a lot of that for year one cuz I don't think on the first year we did this, we had enough of that information right up off the bat and uh, Cat works tirelessly to keep that that whole thing. If you scroll down on the actual calendar Kickstarter page, there's a bunch of information there. So, um, yeah, it was luckily we had friends who knew how to do it, I guess, would be the the the shortest answer of that.
Matt, the sleeper has awoken.
Okay. Um, and uh I'm gonna send him both links.
Oh, [laughter] I was like, which sleeper are we talking about? Uh,
the West Coast one.
The West Coast sleeper. The the the scary West Coast sleeper. Um,
well, I think it's just the one link, is

it not?
Well, no, cuz audio is in
Oh, yeah. Send them both.
Send him both.
Great. Awesome.
What other questions we got while we uh have our special guest popping in? Uh,
would we ever consider making custom playing dice? Um, I don't want to say yes. However, we have thought about not only just making custom dice, but what would be the thing that extra history could do with dice or a dice set that would not only make sense for us, but also be something that we hadn't seen before. And I will say not, this is no promise that this will ever be made. We have an idea if we will it survive kicking the tires of it over the course of the next 6 to9 months. I have no idea but we have talked about it.
Yeah.

Hello PT ski.
Well um
have you seen the new World War II movie Pressure? I actually went to the New York premiere of that film. I uh waved at Brendan Frasier and I think he smiled at me. Um so it was fun and it's a pretty good movie. I enjoyed it very much.
Ah thank you knows best or know best. Thank you so much for the pledge. Very much appreciate it. Hey actually this is a really good question as we wait for for Jeff to join in. People watching the stream right now probably more on the history side because we just don't stream over there a lot. Um, is this is this moment the first time you've heard about the calendar? And the reason I ask is we put out so much information on community posts and videos and I did that take that potato salad video and if you haven't checked that out, please do. It was very fun to make. Um, but like and we do ads at the end of some

episodes and a couple other things and I'm curious if those are reaching the same people that happen to be here today. Does that make sense?
Yeah. Uh, Matt, do you need to do anything in clean feed to enable?
Nope. He's in. I see him. I don't see him talking, so he's either muted or there's something on his end.
Test test.
I hear him.
Excellent. Wonderful. Then let us bring him into the table. Haha, I DID THE
HI, JEFF. WHOA. I'll move over a little bit.
Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna We're We're scooching. Um,
there we go. I I was not wanting to talk to make sure there wasn't something I needed to do to not get a double.
Totally. Totally.
Yeah.
Is Jeff quiet for you or stream? Just so I know he's a little quiet for me, but I know that.
Yes.
Um
yeah, he he's quiet. He's quiet on stream, too.
Uh Desiree, this is my first time seeing the stream and hearing about the calendar and just pledged. Thank you very much. Um the Yeah. So, that's interesting to me. Um,

it is it is it is a truth universally acknowledged. Uh, and I can tell you this from years of experience that no matter how often a piece of information is repeated on YouTube,
people will miss it because I still
Yeah. Right. I still And are you ready for this? Eight years later get Wait, you all have a Twitch channel?
Yeah. Yeah.
Right. Hey, so
this is uh their first time uh 999's first time hearing about it.
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
Um yeah.
All right,
Jeff, talk to me again.
Testing
sounds more quiet than us.
Not a ton on the
As long as it's good on the stream, it's good for me.
You can always pop me up a little.
Uh here's a question for for the for the panel here as we get into what's our what's our timeline on this thing. We got 33 minutes to go. I was just popping up the Kickstarter to take a look.

What calendar? WHY, IT'S THE EXTRA HISTORY HISTORY HAPPENS Every Day calendar. The Ace Show.
Hold on.
I love I do I do like that people just don't know at this
I I I have a thing. It's this calendar. It's this this calendar right here uh with historical facts on every day of the year. And some of them even have links to videos that we've done about them. Uh, and you can back it right now over on Kickstarter for
or 33 minutes.
Yeah, for the next
32 minutes.
For Yeah, for the next 32 minutes. Uh, you can do uh you can get the calendar for $25 or you can get the deluxe edition for 45 or the ultimate for 65.
Deluxe comes with the playing cards and the fridge magnets. I believe the ultimate comes with all that plus uh the puzzle, the second in our jigsaw puzzle series. Yeah.
Yeah. So, yeah. So, that that is
this is the first year we put a puzzle in with uh last year we did it

separately. This year we put it in and um I'm really glad we did.
Yeah. Uh that puzzle last year, series 1, which you still can get in the store right now, I believe, was Zoey uh as uh uh Chad Chad Zoey uh based off Cad Noir. Um
this is one of my favorite pieces of art David's done for the calendar. It is uh wonderful and I my favorite part and now the next one says it
and this is the sort of the promise right it's puzzle number one
and we have so much great art from three calendars we want to keep trying to make puzzles and like keep keep putting them together
now I will say I will say that we did take feedback into account this year when choosing which piece of art to be the puzzle
that is true
because we are aware that um the chat Zoey is
hellishly difficult to do because it's a bunch of beige.
Sure. But
this year too, we went from 600 to 500 pieces um for the same size puzzle because it was both hard and the pieces

were tiny.
Yeah.
But it is a great puzzle if you
I finished it. Zoe and I finished it. It's in the video.
Yeah.
Um I will say we also
we also let people
What was that?
Oh, sorry. I was say it's a good Thanksgiving or show up with a family puzzle.
Yeah.
Kind of thing. We actually that was one that people voted on and again should we have known that Zoe would take it? Yes. Did we anticipate that to happen? Because there were some other great options last year for the puzzle.
I was like there was this
Yep.
Oo. All right. Hold on. Richard is challenging chat.
In lie of a proper $100,000 stretch goal. I pledge that if we reach $100,000 before the cutoff, I will put aside enough for the video tier next year.
Whoa. Oh
chat, you have been challenged. There are 30 minutes and some 4,62 4,7636.

That's a many until we get to 100k. Um then we can pay rent.
There we go. See, this is why [groaning]
I hated all of that. I [laughter] HATED EVERY PART OF THAT. IT'S TOO EARLY.
It's not too early. This Well, this is technically earlier than we stream normally. Um,
very early over on the West Coast. Thank you.
That's right. That's right.
That's why Jeff wasn't with us at the beginning.
That's right. Um, also Jeff, at this point, just so you you know, as studio director, I feel like I should I should fill you in on a couple things. The first promise I made um was that if we make 96K,
I will go get Zoe and wake her up from a top of her tree and bring her on to the stream. Now, that is a incredibly dangerous venture. That's the worst possible time and place for me to do that, but I've promised to do it. Um, so there is that. And then the only we were we were trying to brainstorm in the off chance that in 29 minutes we make 100K.

Who knows? Who knows? Uh, these these things end so crazy sometimes.
Alec Baldwin knows.
Possibly Tim Curry. The only thing we we sort of put it out to chat to see like what an idea would be and the only dumb actually this is a great idea but it'd be doable and weird enough is a cosplay photo shoot where I'm in a river dressed as Joan with the flag. [laughter]
We We need a ridiculous body of water and and the dress and a extra credits flag and Matt needs floaties because
Yeah, I don't want to drown.
It won't be good without floaties. He like needs water wings.
There's a place in Maine that you go to sometimes that I feel like might just be shallow enough to do this.
So I could Jeff is referring to the pirate rafting trip I did for 10 years in the Sako River in Maine. Uh where we built a 6x8 pirate raft with a 6ft crow's nest and a plank and a full grill bolted onto it. And I may or may not have been dressed as Jack Sparrow and

conducted weddings on a beach. Regardless, uh yeah, I could I was a captain, will um regardless. Yeah, I could float there. It's a good It actually looks a little bit like this. I'd have to like put I'd have to put Frostborn as the sword in the back on the beach.
Yeah, I feel like that makes it better. Also, hello.
Hello.
Hi. Greetings and citations.
So, what um
the future insurance claim will be one for the history books.
There we go.
Yeah.
So, here's a question. Mhm.
Is there anything for people that have already backed the campaign and let's say that backed uh a standard level or even uh the deluxe but not the ultimate? Is there anything that was holding you back? This is more for posterity for next year or something like that. Anything that was holding you back other than monetary funds um from getting the other extra stuff? Were there some things you weren't as interested in? Was you just want like one particular thing? like what were what were some of the highlights andor reasons you may not

have gone uh through the for the for the big shebang? I'm curious.
Yeah. Uh because you all are um a group of people who show up in the morning for most of you, not all of you, many of you in the morning to watch us countdown to the end of a Kickstarter, which means that you're pretty invested. You're you're pretty like you're pretty here for this. uh even if you didn't back, you're here for the idea of it. So, you're like our ideal audience to know like what what more could we do to make this more appealing
and and we do recognize not everybody wants a physical calendar.
Oh, yeah.
We already know that we're making a niche product
and that this is a labor of love and for fun.
Yeah, I I like I like this one. Dumb thing holding me back. Magnets don't stick to my fridge. valid
ceramic fridge.
There are non-magnetic fridges. They they do exist. They do exist. That is a

very interesting thing that I don't think we'd considered. Thank you so much for letting us know that that that is that is a thing.
Um uh by the way, this is a good reminder from Dolphin. Dolphin just checked her pledge check because she was on deluxe and not ultimate like she meant to be and this is the last like you have like 25 minutes to like lock in any increases or if you were if you were one of those people who backed at the $2 level and wanted to upgrade later once you saw what all the stretch goals were. That's a common practice in Kickstarter. [snorts] Now is your chance to do that. Go check your pledge.
Yeah, exactly. One of the things we guarantee, by the way, is that uh anybody who's pledged, all of this goes out first to all of our Kickstarter backers, and this will always be the cheapest we ever offered. That's will go up in our store after,
but for Kickstarter backers, we love you and we always
bring it down.
Yeah.
Uh Richard had a question. What size is

the poster that got added with the puzzles? The the folded like there's a there's a physical version of the um of the art of the puzzle in the puzzle as well.
Be very honest on this. I don't know.
Oh, really?
Actually, hold on. Let me look at what we got.
There's got to be something in the in the files.
Yeah,
I have all of the files. So, give me a second. Um,
this is this is a fascinating fact from Nova. Modern fridges are mostly only made with ferris materials for the purpose of supporting fridge magnets. Non-ferris materials are more efficient otherwise.
Oh, a thousand%.
I I I
What a weird cultural like staple. No. What a weird cultural magnet.
You can't staple to a fridge. It's metal.
Yeah.
Okay. That's
unless of course you've got uh Smaz's wooden wooden fridge.
Oh, that's kind of fun.
Yeah, it is. I feel like I feel like the best part of a wooden fridge would be getting to

stain it to like match your kitchen cabinets.
Oo,
like a stealth fridge, right? like like it's it's an inset and you just like it's the same style. Now now I want to design a kitchen. Uh we are halfway to 96k by the way. We are at $95,58 with 23 minutes to go. Matt,
I'll get my falconer gloves.
Yeah, I was going to say prepare the gloves. Um Oh, I like this. I like this idea. Cork fridge door so you can pin your stuff to it. That
you'd have to replace it maybe every two years.
Corkboard on the fridge door.
Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Uh fridge rivets. I like this plan. Yep.
Rivet.
Rivet. What riveting content?
What riveting content?
Oo,
indeed. Uh
you have to take care of it otherwise you'll get kind of screwed.
All right.
So, on the print size.
Yep. [laughter] Yep. Let's go to that.

They quoted us a price which um and then it just says suggest size. So last year what we did, let me show you. It just says suggest size. We can suggest any size within reason. Like our our person there is very friendly. Did it say in parenthesis within reason? Nope.
Cuz like last year this was inside Hold on. Oh no, I lost a piece. Come back, piece. This is definitely a puzzle you don't want to lose pieces from.
Yeah.
So, last year we got this, which I thought was both cool, but it was also a little big.
Uh, hold it up like in front of you directly. So, it's in the Yeah. Like, cuz I can't see the other edge with Will there.
Um,
there you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
So, this looks like it was actually Hold on.

I don't know. Would people want a larger a larger thing like that or a smaller one?
That's like 2 by3 I think.
Yeah, actually I think but I'm not entirely positive that this might have been the exact dimensions of the puzzle.
16 by 20.
I think it's a little smaller than
it looks a little larger.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah. Uh
but so the puzzle is going to be roughly the same size this year. Um, and they picked a good size when we did it last year. Like that was the suggested size. And it's good because when it's folded, it fits neatly in the box.
Mhm.
Yeah.
And they're going to have to fold it to get it in the box unless it's like smaller than the box. Yeah.
Right. Unless it's like an A5. Um I I feel like this is this is also a good time to mention that there are uh people whose job it is to engineer these things and we are not those people, right? None of us are product engineers.

It should
we might play one on TV.
We play them on the internet sometimes, but like we are not
Oh yeah. I was trying to look around and see if there was a product that I have engineered, but I don't think there is. Yeah. kitty cat.
Different kitty cat. By the way, uh we are now I I am happy to report that um our house our long-term house guest Clover has figured out how to open doors.
Raptors. Oh, yeah.
She is a clever girl. And so she broke out last night and started exploring. I am I am working on training her to get in my lap so that we can do like the council of evil thing where we have three guys sitting here talking about the Kickstarter uh
you know petting cats but
holding cats.
Yeah.
God, Zoe's going to be so mad. Um
what that you pick her up or that Persville was on before she was?
No, that pick her up. Zo you think Zoe

cares about any other cat? [laughter] Uh, when you were first setting up OBS to Twitch, do you expect to be selling products to? I had Look, look, if you told me eight years ago when I was first learning OBS, like all the things that I would make this incredible piece of open source software do, I would have laughed at you. Um, and I learned how to make it do new stuff every week. Every single week. Let's spin this around a little bit because the the the interesting thing here is the calendar has now become I don't want to get too into the the financial weeds but uh YouTube has made uh many a decision and audiences have shifted and a bunch of other things that make um
things that were steady not as steady anymore to put it as lightly as humanly possible. And so, uh, Jeff will team, everybody comes together and tries to

find ways to, uh, essentially, and again, no way that we do this, especially like a Kickstarter, you never know what you're going to get, is like officially 100% stable, but we're trying to diversify ways that can still help keep the channel going and afloat and keep everyone paid and all that jazz. And uh so it's interesting the answer of the question of did we ever expect to be like selling products? Not really. But I I I want and I Jeeoff I'd be interested in your uh take on this as well. I'm incredibly proud of what we've made the last few years and this campaign is shaping up to be no different. And like I'm really thankful that the that our audience is excited enough to to to not only want these things that I hope that they think are cool, but also like that are really down to also support the channel in this alternate way. Does that make sense?

I thought it
Yeah.
And
I I think it's interesting. Um the other thing it's also like the economy.
Sure.
There's a we we've always had to sell things on YouTube. Like we get sponsorships. Yeah.
That's part of how a modern YouTube studio pays its staff because we like to make sure that we pay our people. Like at the end of the day, making sure everybody gets paid is my number one thing as the studio director because um we live in a capitalist society. People have to buy things, rent, food. So I've heard of them.
Excuse me. [laughter]
Yeah. So, um we've always had to put sponsorships on. Right now with the economy and with tariffs and a couple of other things, there are less sponsorships than ever being done on YouTube. Um,
uh, I'm going to put a I'm going to put a caveat in there. Reputable sponsorships,
sponsors that we would want to work with.
Yeah, we have a no crypto, no gambling, uh,
and a couple other nos left and right,

here, there, or center, just for other reasons. Um, yeah, and so being able to do this as opposed to hunting for sponsors who are not interested in, I think, is a huge win. we get to make something cool that certain people like that they can bring into their house. Like last year the coasters were really cool in addition to I was going to say I love the coasters specifically and I'm a little bit sad that they didn't they didn't happen this year. But also the coasters from last year they've taken like hits at my house. Like they've like drink spilled everything. They're like they're still fine. And I thought I was like there's no way this is gonna like
who know like I I knew we tried to make the best thing we could
on that one. Gemma was completely right on that.
Gemma Gemma over at Nebula just crushed that. Um and so uh I while I am sad we're not doing more coasters, the four coasters I have from last year are still strong as strong as ever.

Oh 100%.
I I want to say that like one of the ways that I think we could maybe phrase it is you all are our favorite sponsors. like the fact that you all we're we're finding new ways for you all to help support us either here or over on Patreon um on the Kickstarter, right? That
Nebula subscriptions
neb Ne nebula subscriptions or you know just buying our other merch from the merch store uh which you could find links to pretty much everywhere. Um
that's one of our favorite ways to like make sure that the studio happens because that way you get something cool. you get to keep making cool things that you like. Uh I I I find that to be one of the most rewarding things, which is one of the reasons.
It's a win-win.
Yeah. Which is one of the reasons that I I um the you know, Kickstarters are traditionally tracked by tracked by the dollar value, right? How many how many dollars people have pledged for this cool product idea that we've had. I am always and consistently blown away by

the number of people backing. That is that is my personal favorite stat. Yeah. Um because there are 1466 households that are going to have our really cool artwork up on the wall and that that to me is just like the coolest thing.
Yeah.
Um kind of kind of on that nose note, uh Rose uh Loverville says, "Just want to hop on and tell you I love and respect everything you do. Keep up the history. Uh telling forms that grab youth's attention. Thank you very much. Uh that means a lot and that's kind of indicative of you know why we do what we do and why we make things that hopefully can help inspire people to be excited about history and uh try to keep learning more about it and learn from it and uh um essentially it's funny we were talking about this in a in a different end of an episode but like learn about history so you can not repeat it. [laughter] Um, and that's a that's a tricky that's a tricky thing. So,

yeah, Jeff, before you got on, we were saying we had kind of a Talamascan approach to history where we uh we we want to study history and not be part of it. [laughter]
Yeah, I think we're living in the wrong time. Actually, I think almost everybody's lived in the wrong time for that.
That That's true. That is Yeah, that's No, that's true. The pace of change is ever increasing.
Yeah. Mhm. Uh, we have 13 minutes left. Big ones, Jack.
13 big minutes. Also, fun fact, Zoe will be turning 13 on Halloween.
Whoa. Black cat turning 13 on Halloween. I think that only happens once a millennium.
So, you're going to stay home and wear a suit made out of horseshoes and lucky clovers?
Most likely. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay, great.
Don't forget the salt. Lots of salt to surround yourself.
Yeah. Well, whatever spell Zoe wants to cast, that's what we're gonna do,
right? I mean, it is her birthday. Uh,
we did just watch Obsession last night, so that's dangerous. But I I don't know. She was gonna think of something better

and nicer, I'm sure.
I gotta find a new thing to watch. I just finished uh the anime that I was watching. I got to find a new one. Oh, that I haven't watched Free Run season 2.
Kona, is Black Cat in turning 11 this Halloween? So, two more years and you get to experience it.
Yeah, right.
Ring of salt around the house. Okay. Problem with that. Problem with that. Do you know how expensive salt is? But Roxel, it's cheaper than rebuilding a house.
Yeah, [laughter] this,
you know, true, fair, real, and valid. Uh,
will I dress up Zoe this Halloween? Probably not. Um, Zoe has only ever liked one costume, and that was when uh there was like little clip-on like little wings. Um, and she loved those. She like slept in them and wouldn't like everything else she kind of like wants out of. We can make this happen.
Yeah. Um, any other questions about the

Kickstarter in the last 12 minutes? Anything anything we can say to to to to bring more history into your home?
Uh, we are only $254 away from the significantly less than $254 as the count updates from you needing to go get.
We're down at 169 nice dollars away from Zoe on stream. Is mayonnaise an instrument? Great question.
Uh,
next question.
Right. Uh, Zoe shopping list. 35 L of water, 20 kg of carbon, 4 L of ammonia, 1.5 kg of lime, 800 g of phosphorus, 2.5 kg of salt, 10 g of salt. Peter, I think you meant grams, not kilogram of salt. That's that's that's a salt giant, sir.
We're making a cake.
Yeah,
a cake of equivalent exchange, maybe. Uh oh, here's a good question from Cookie Clicker. Will the deck of cards have historical figures for just the face cards or is the ace through king? It is just the face cards

and jokers.
And jokers, but yeah.
So, yeah, we have
we debated about that. We went back and forth, but uh traditionally
Mhm.
the cards uh although there are some sets that have things on the aces, but
we went with we went with the classics.
Salt is both for the body and for the ring around the house. Excellent. We did add an extra card in on um suggestion from our Kickstarter community, which is a thing we probably should have thought of, but listing the names of everybody who are on all of the cards.
Yeah.
Mhm.
Um so it is a 55 card deck instead of a 54 card deck.
Yeah.
So if you want to invent a game with that card, by all means,
it could be used as an extra joker.
Yeah.
And I'm investigating tuckbox foiling. I am in conversations with our manufacturer.
We talked about that. And if it does not slow down production, that was the 90K uh stretch goal.
That was our whole thing. As long as production is not slowed down, we will chip in for the extra once we hit 90.
Because we know that one of the most

frustrating things about Kickstarters
cuz I think all three of us have backed Kickstarters that have done this
that scale into oblivion and then never deliver. In fact,
we're going to be talking we're going to be talking about um Star Citizen.
Yep. uh on on Games for Breakfast coming up right after this stream uh and their wonderful stream that they just had. [laughter]
Wonderful. Yeah, it'll be great. Um by the way, uh as as we wrap down, uh when we finish, I'm in charge of all of our live production. So, when we finish, you should automatically be forwarded to our Games for Breakfast stream, which will be starting about 15 minutes after this one ends. We just need a couple minutes to do some turnaround. Um
15 minutes max. I bet you we can turn around faster.
Oh, yeah. But we had to. Um, but we'll be
turning it around and and starting our weekly uh gaming news breakfast roundup, which we do every Friday. So,
this stream was lovely, not only because we got to talk to all of y'all on Extra

History as well and talk about the calendar one last time before the campaign wraps. But also, I got to drink my coffee an hour earlier.
Yeah, Matt's not allowed to drink his coffee unless it's on stream. He's contracted.
It's in my contract that I wrote. I should renegotiate
with yourself.
I don't know. I think you got a pretty sweet one. No, I don't. No sugar in this coffee, Jeff. HAHA. YOUR PUN IS USELESS. [laughter]
OH.
UH,
50/50 chance. Yeah.
Uh, Cookie Clicker asked, "This has probably already been answered before or already, but when was this Kickstarter first thrown around?" Um,
I So more than this is our third one. Yeah. About half. So if you go back basically two years. So since this is our third one, our last one ended two years and a month ago. Wait, is that right?
Sure.
It doesn't matter. But
one year, two year. Yeah. So
about 6 months before that,

um I'd come up, we were chatting with things we could do and I think it was me, but I'm not sure. It could have been somebody else had broached the idea and Matt Cat and I all bounced it around for a while. And then I started working with David uh one of our artists on doing art because it takes a couple weeks per piece of art and to do 13 pieces of art was therefore a significant studio investment because that was taking David off of doing episodes.
Yep.
For roughly 3 months.
Um and then we worked with Rob to start getting daily historical facts.
Yeah. I think I was the mad person that Rob could probably hate me for that sort of pushed hard for the different fact every day thing. And then we all came up with the idea of like, oh, what's the extra thing this calendar can do? Oh, what if there's pictures and there's a QR code. I think like my original bad idea was like a QR code on every on on all the ones.
I was the QR code cuz you always hated QR codes and I said, "Let's have QR codes." And then you were like, "Oh, we

could do them all over." And then we eventually arrived on the one
on the single one at the bottom. So it doesn't take away. Yeah, that's how it worked out.
Y
you were the one who decided pictures because you were the one who then went and looked up pictures to put on each day of of the episode. A tiny picture from the episode that would tell you to go scan the QR code.
Yeah.
Yeah. But anyway,
it's always a team effort. Like these are always team effort. We did this a while. It's been years in the making. Uh I want to get this real quick. Uh uh Brandon asks, "Will there be an extra history mythology compilation book of all the different figures and events shown on the channels?" Uh that's a that's a big ask. I like it, but no, not right now. We have toyed with the idea of doing some sort of book thing in the in the future.
Book,
coffee table book, etc. Um stay tuned. Nothing nothing unlocked for that yet. Brody also asks, "Before this ends, uh is it uh I know it's pretty difficult to do extra history stuff because you do more extra history live streams on extra credits." It's the same difficulty sadly, Brody. It's like Rob, who we'd want to have on more often than not, uh,

is in Hong Kong. Uh, and so, uh, the time difference is a killer.
Matt.
YES.
DANG IT.
You need to go get Zoe because we left. Yeah, we have with 5 minutes to go, we have crossed $96,000. We are at $96,000 and $96,48. And Matt is now off to go get Zoe. Uh, as promised. Um, yeah, Matt has to sacrifice his arms to the Zo. Well, fortunately, it took long enough that she's
she's more amendable at this point. She [clears throat] got to sleep for an extra 55 minutes. Um, so yeah, [laughter]
going for a coffee table book. Need to get a coffee table for it. In my mind, the kind of thing that we're thinking of is the um the way things work style book, right? or like some kind of um like illust like there there is a long history of illustrated educational books

in that style. Um
it's a we've actually tossed around multiple different variants internally. Um, one of the things I thought would be kind of interesting is because we have all the scripts for all the episodes that we could actually make like an illustrated history reader of taking some of the scripts, turning them each into like a chapter and taking images from the episodes.
Mhm.
And so, you know, we could have like a his a world history or like a history of Europe, a history of like some place we've done lots of episodes on. And with a significant amount of work, we could turn all of the scripts into a long story and put like there's different things we could do.
Yep.
Okay.
There she is.
Okay. Okay. [gasps]
She upset.
She not happy. But I did give her treats, so she's good. Zoe, we made

96,000 thanks to the backers on Kickstarter.
Yeah.
What do you think?
Get your paw. Get your paw. There you go.
Yeah, she made it. She made it to the end of the stream.
Yeah,
that is a sleepy looking kitty cat.
Two river says, "I love your table with pin designs, but they are for the magnets. Looks amazing."
Thank you.
I I think we're we're very excited about those.
I am actually It's fun. This is the first year we haven't done postcards. Yep.
Um and I am super excited that we are replaced them with the magnets and the playing cards. Both of which bring art in in a different way. And I am very excited to put the magnets on my own fridge, too.
Yeah, it was actually really cool. Um are you covered in cat hair now?
The pixels aren't going to be able to see it, but it's there. No,
so much cat hair. Um,
yeah,
I'm vacuuming later.

Uh,
hey, don't get it on me.
New guy, how dare [laughter] you my vengeance will be tenfold. Yeah, no, that's true. Um, she'll come back in the middle of breakfast and demand attention. Um, we got two minutes to go.
Two minutes.
Just two.
Yeah, that's true.
There are many kinds of books we have thought about. That is another one. Yeah. little golden book style on the history of tulip speculating.
Though I will tease here at Gen Con, Matt and I had a pretty good idea for a whole other thing that um we
a whole other thing.
A whole a whole other thing.
Whole other thing. Get my shirt.
Mhm.
Um yeah, we have we have lots of um we have lots of Kickstartery ideas because this is a great way to interact with all y'all. Um, especially when we do the we uh Jeff and Cat sent out a poll before like months ago before this campaign started about what the things you liked and what you didn't like. And actually that poll to YouTube subscribers and

backers I believe um was that's what made the playing cards a reality because everyone was so excited about the playing cards. And then the refrigerator magnets I think were the second place thing.
They were number two. Then they beat out um more coasters. They beat out extra history dice. Like there was a whole bunch of things that we listed on. I was kind of hoping for the dice honestly because I love dice. But I am very excited that what one did win. Yeah.
Uh with
93 seconds,
right? We're going to we're going to
Oh, it counts down.
Yeah. We're going to go we're going to go to the countdown at 60. Uh
at 60 seconds we'll go to the countdown.
Yeah, absolutely.
So if you have any changes
right now,
do it now.
Yep. Make sure you've checked your pledge. Lock in everybody. Lock in. We're we're we're counting down the last seconds. Uh
gone in 60 seconds. Roller. [laughter]
All right. And then Steam is on a delay.

That's fine. But we'll still react accordingly. So technically you'll have like 7 seconds more. Okay. Here we go.
Well, it turns red. That's insane. Red.
Whoa. I don't think I've ever watched a Kickstarter countdown before. Even our own. Uh, no. I won't just make noise throughout the entire thing.
If you're waiting for the last minute, this is it. This is the last minute. That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah. 100%. 30 seconds left. Thank you all. Regardless of whether that number moves again or doesn't, thank you all so much for all of those. I like that number. That's a nice number. I like,475.
Yeah, it's a very good number. Um, I I think uh I mean this has been our most successful one to date and we've got plenty of ideas for next year. So, you know,
yeah, chat, thank you. Salute to each and every one of you for being here and supporting us as we
Yeah.
as we watch this number tick down.

Four, three, two, one.
Happy Kickstarter. [laughter] Hey, there's fireworks AND THINGS. LOOK AT THAT.
It does the thing. $96,169.
Nice.
Nice.
Palindrome crew. Well done. Well done to the palendrome crew.
Yeah.
For 96169.
That's That's crazy impressive.
Nice.
That I'm after all lurker, you did that. [laughter]
Amazing.
Wow. Amazing.
I you know Well well done. Well well done.
Oh that's so good.
Wow.
I I
lurker. What a lurker.
You win.
Yeah that's Yeah.
Lurker wins for today.
Wow.
Uh

all right everybody. Well now now uh so real quick before we before we sign off and get [clears throat] over to breakfast. Uh Jeff, do you want to run us through what people can expect now that the Kickstarter is funded?
The Kickstarter is wrapped. Um what I was about to say is I'm about to go off look at the numbers of all we what we've got to get a rough number for our manufacturers because I will be getting that to them today. Cat will be sometime probably in the next day or two. Um well, she'll be sending out a message shortly that says thank you everybody. Um with a list of next steps. Our pledge manager will open sometime very shortly. So, if you want to take your pledge and do any last minute adjustments, like if you wanted an extra deck of playing cards or other things like that, that's what you can do. Then, sometime in the next um week or two, as we get the full list in, um anybody who pledged um a calendar level above will get their Nebula credit and access to their digital art
um files, which come with this. So, that the stuff we can get you quickly, we'll

get you quickly. There's a small chance the Nebula credit might take longer. I remember last year it ended up coming out closer to Black Friday.
Okay.
Um which is still fine because that would mean if you're going to the store everything would be discounted. Yeah. We will find out when they can get it to us. Um and when we can get the list of people in but I'm pretty sure the digital files will go out quickly. Um after that we will be we have actually already finished up every single thing this year before the Kickstarter ended. So the playing cards are done, the puzzle's done, the calendar's done,
the designs of them are done and and to the manufacturer, but nothing has been manufactured
has gotten all that done and we already have it to the manufacturer.
So I will be getting them final numbers
and sizes of the poster on the inside of the thing, which we should make it 7 ft by 9 ft.
And every time it should get bigger.
Yeah.
Yeah. see how long it takes them to catch on that every time they say really and then you say a different number,
right?
I feel like that may delay our puzzle.

Ah, okay, fine. But um so you guys will not see anything for a little while while we start getting proofs back for everything, but our goal is to have this shipped in uh pre Black Friday. Um that is what we're aiming for. Short of wackiness, that should be a very achievable goal. Um, and if so, as soon as it hits the warehouse, it will be mailed out. If it comes in earlier for that, we'll mail it out. Um, yeah, at this point, sit back, wait for your pledge manager to come in. Make sure that you go and check it out because it's going to ask for things like your address. Um, we we had a couple people this year when the Kickstarter start say, "Hey, I never got my box." So, we said, "Well, we sent you like eight Kickstarter messages and three emails, but you never put your address in." So, we couldn't ship you anything and they said, "Oh," and they put their address in and we ship them the stuff. [laughter] So, we cannot ship you stuff until you give us an address.

Yeah.
Um, but yeah, otherwise it's typical Kickstarter stuff, you know, make your final selection, put in your address, wait for cool things to arrive.
Yeah. And again, thank you all so much for uh the support and you believing in this project and uh funding it a in 20 minutes. That's was the first insanity 30 days ago. then just continuing to support and share and and bring this piece of our little internet studio into your house. It really means a lot. We hope that you love it as much as we do. Um and we cannot wait to get all this stuff in your hands. Um I was trying to think if there was like And will you have a you have a stream you have a setup for like cards, right? To like play cards like for Magic.
Yeah,
we might maybe we do something with the playing cards when the playing cards come out. we do a stream of some kind just cuz you have that set up.
Yeah, 100%. We can do that.
Um but yeah, um I guess that's it here for the Extra History side of things. If you want to keep hanging out with Will and myself, we are going to be starting in a couple minutes our uh games for

breakfast show over on Extra Credits. If you stay on Extra History here, we'll just bring you over there when uh this stream ends. Essentially, it is a gaming and tech news uh weekly show where Will and I uh and sometimes a guest, though it is just Will and I today go over all of that stuff. uh in hopefully uh engaging, enlightening, and um totally sane ways.
Yeah, very sane.
Today we're going to be talking um everyone's getting sued. Everyone's getting sued.
You get a lawsuit and you get a lawsuit, you get a law.
I feel like gaming news these days is just like, okay,
who's who's in trouble?
Yeah.
But no, we actually I want to talk about like the Kingdom Hearts 4 launch or trailer, and I want to talk about a couple other happy things, too. So, we got a whole smorggish board over there. So, stick around if you'd like. Otherwise, yeah. Again, thank you a million.
Yeah. Anything else, everybody, for that? Because this is a Will and Matt stream. Will and I stream every Tuesday a different one called um design club live where we'll take something

interesting
for game design, game social, game commentary, and we'll spend some time looking. Coming up, actually this Tuesday, Matt, you probably don't know this. Dr. Michael of the Good Game Project is joining us.
Oh, heck yeah. and we're going to talk about some of the uh EU funded research onto games and specifically for this one we're going to be talking about neurodiversity and competitive gaming.
Nice deal.
Actual expert.
Dr. Michael's great.
Very excited for that. All right, everybody. Uh that means that it's time to say goodbye to the people. So, bye to the people.
Bye to the people. People, goodbye. [music]