“History Happens Every Day” 2027 Kickstarter Launch Stream!

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Yeah, sick goof them ups. Well, I goof them up on the right channel at least. Uh, credits is now live. History was live. Credits, for those unfamiliar, YouTube does this thing that I love so very much, which is on Twitch when you click start streaming, you start streaming. And on YouTube, you have to click start streaming in two places unless you set a very special secret setting, which I forgot to set for one of our two channels. So, hi credits, Janet. Hello. Greetings, salutations.
Welcome in to to this party for the history happens every day 2027 calendar. Um, we were just about to sort of go over to uh I believe the Kickstarter page.
Indeed, we were. And in fact, well, that number is moving quite quite quickly. Let's Let's move on over. Um Matt,
yes,
we've been live for 8 minutes.
It's going well.

Yeah.
Uh uh [laughter]
that's eight. That's the Yeah. Mhm. 8 minutes.
Here's what Okay. I I I'm not trying to put anything. Let's scroll down away from the number. Let's not look at the number and let's let's look at the the actual campaign here so we can sort of describe it and then we'll check in once we've done and completed the explanation. Right. So, as I was saying, you can obviously see some of David's art right up there for uh I believe this, at least as of for now, is the November uh art, though I am not entirely sure. David, uh tell us a little bit. Well, actually, we'll get to that piece in a moment. Um [clears throat]
uh so you can see there, but specifically the other half of the calendar is this part, which is the actual dates.
Uh and there's a new historical fact that is often underrepresented on each day. We try very hard to refresh them every year. And then the dates with specific Oh, scroll back up, Will. So, sorry. the dates with like you see those sort of like shadow images there. You can see this clearer on the actual Kickstarter page itself. Those are linked to a QR code at the bottom of each month which if you scroll ever so slightly looks like that. And that will

take you to videos in our catalog tied to the date represented under the little picture. So, not only can you learn something new hopefully every day of the year, but also on specific days, you can scan it and watch videos and like really deep dive into the the history that we're talking about.
Um, next up we have a little Voodoo Val and David Hua part here. This is one of Val's pieces. Um, what is this based off of?
I I wonder night and I think that's a Ottoman aar. Yes.
Um I I love this piece as well. We'll be revealing more pieces of art as we go uh throughout the campaign.
And and I have a fun fact about this piece of art that you two gents may not know.
Star Night. Difficult puzzle. Difficult puzzle to do. Very difficult puzzle. IN FACT, CHAD HATED IT.
YEAH. [laughter]
YEAH. It's going to be difficult. Yes.
Yeah.
Hey, I want to give a shout out real

quick here to Hez. Sorry, I'm blocking all of our faces, but found the channel through YouTube short videos. Now I'm binge watching all of your content. Love your channel. Thank you so much. That is the goal. We love doing the long stuff and the shorts are fun and I think we do a really great job with them. Uh everyone who's touched them on our team does, but they're supposed to be the gateway drug. Um and so I'm very happy to hear that. All right, so next up, we wanted to kind of go a little extra uh no pun intended uh here. And so one of the the sort of premium add-ons you can get either in the deluxe package or just as an add-on on its own uh designed by uh eh artist Ali Artham uh we have extra history playing cards. Uh I am so flipping pumped for this specific piece as well [laughter] because I've seen all the cards. There'll be extra history uh uh historical figures that we've done episodes on in a specific style on the cards um for the jack, king, and queen and maybe a joker or two, who knows? Um

and they they are absolutely gorgeous. The card back, which you which you can see a little bit in these pictures, is phenomenal. And uh this ties in nicely with sort of like tying an object that seems commonplace to us today, but also through a rich history that again perhaps we'll be learning a little bit more about in approximately 18 minutes. Um
I can't I can't wait to see the amazing work that Ali has put in this ones in this cards because she's she's amazing.
Yeah. and we have such such a different style which is always great to see another artist take a take a you know jab at something you've done before.
It's so it's it's so fun to see. Um and then uh if you keep scrolling actually this is this is the preview. We will be watching this episode which actually isn't quite live yet but will be live right when we watch it later that David did along with uh guest writer Robbie not to be confused with Rob. We have like nine Robs who who who have written for us before. Um,

it's just a collection.
Yeah. Also, uh, we will be doing different votes for specific things throughout the campaign. For instance, this year, uh, we have the the actually the thumbtack that we use to push the calendar into the wall. I believe I have the first year's one or maybe it's the first year. Yeah, I think it was. I don't know if you're going to be able to see this right, but like it's wall pull sitting on a thumbtack. These are Kickstarter exclusives. these thumbtacks, which you'll get to vote on which one you want. History, horse, Zoe, or the foreshadow. Uh, you will not be able to get anywhere outside of this campaign. Um,
I I just I have a question.
Yes.
Matt, did I don't like Foreshadow and History Horse are great. They're wonderful.
Uh-huh.
Do we really think that the audience is going to go for anything except Zoe sitting in a skull?
So, here's the reason. Here's the reason. Zoe, there were three different Zoey pins to vote on last year. So, if you backed the calendar last year, chances are you you already have a Zoey thumbtack
to hang your calendar. Mine's hanging

right up there,
right?
Um, so listen, Zo, I tried to talk Zoe out of it. [laughter] And she she said she said, "Hold my catnip." And then she crawled into a skull and then Ally drew it. Um,
that seems right and reasonable.
I can't I can't I can't. Um, all right. Let's scroll down a little bit more. They'll be sort of
Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. I'm I'm with Napoleon Bonapart here, but why not more Zoe? See, no, that's just correct.
I I I I I was trying to balance things out. [laughter]
No, there is no balance. Only cat.
Apparently, I failed.
So, yeah. Uh here we have some of our reveals already. Obviously, uh Siege at Night for January. Lots of them have not been revealed yet, but we will be will be revealed as we get through the calendar Kickstarter. Another one of David's. I love this one. I I I I love this one, too. Uh yeah,
this is playing off of uh Steamboat Steamboat Willie uh essentially or Steamboat Mickey. Um but now we have instead uh Parallax uh in that style and

our bean style uh who is a a predominant and proliferator of flat earth theory. [laughter] Man, that episode was amazing to so fun. Wild and just in every sense, you know,
and here he is uh sailing off the edge [laughter] of the earth.
Yep. With a with a with a basket of Newton's apples going everywhere.
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And uh David did manage to uh snag a little bit of a hidden Mickey in there as well, which is very very fun.
Uh we we can keep going. I know. Oh, that would have been good. Good. It would have been good to have a hidden Zoe. We have all this stuff. Oh boy. So, this is the one that was sort of the hero shot on the the preview campaign. And we were going back and forth. Uh Jeff and Cat will be able to talk about this a little bit more about which would be the cover art uh this time, but this is a beautiful piece. Uh obviously, Aphilia.
Yeah.
Um but now, uh Joan Arc uh because we've done Joan on the cover before, I think that was another reason why we were

choosing something something else possibly. But this piece uh I think this was one of the first pieces that was was crafted by Val and uh It's absolutely nuts.
It was so interesting. We we did this one as a puzzle. Um we do several of these as puzzles over on our Twitch stream uh leading up to the campaign to to get a sense of which ones are going to work well as puzzles and also um to do like a little bit of an art preview and also to generate time- lapses of them as puzzles to help with the reveal process. And this one is probably the fastest anyone has gone Oh, that's Oilia. like seconds into doing it. It was it was s it's such an iconic piece and um the uh the art like really nails it. Uh the the homage and then you get Joan in the middle. It's it's I love this one. This this is one where where when we're done with the calendar next year, I'm going to turn this one into a wall poster. Like I love this one so much. Well, lucky for you, Will, because in the campaign, you can actually get

digital posters in the deluxe uh thing, which is designed exactly for you to make your own and print your own uh posters.
Yes.
You don't say.
Yes, we got big digital posters, then we got little digital posters that could go on your phone wallpaper, too. Those are coming up.
Oh, Save Path by Moonlight. Uh that's our November from David. Uh this was a super fun one. Um, and I think you can actually see in the Kickstarter video the piece that it's based off of like sort of next to it.
The piece that is based on is it not much to playing the flute by moonlight by Fujiwara no Jasuma.
Mhm.
I think I'm saying that right. Which is uh you know this this beautiful Ukio type of artist which is like painting on top of um textiles. I think it's uh silk and or or printing on top of silk and it's it's gorgeous just you know go find the piece uh playing by the flu playing

the flute by moonlight and we have changed that by the main characters are I think noanga and his um Jojimbo which was I don't remember hato Um, I one of my favorite things about this and it's it's a little hard to see on this screen capture of a picture in low res on the Kickstarter. You'll see it better when you get your calendar hopefully or when you get the large scale digital uh prints is um the s the the work that has gone into showing off the textile lines,
right? Because normally you'd have to put the like normally the textile lines in the silk are just there because that's part of the medium. But in order to recreate an homage to the piece to put the textile lines on the digital and like it shows it's so I love this one too. I love all of the art. Uh but the

the textile lines really show the kind of uh love that the artist put into these.
Actually that was that was an idea. Well, it's it's been something that we've been doing since the first calendar because I I I wanted to like show that these were real paintings like the they were like painted on on on canvas and and Jeff like Jeff pushed pushed a lot you know that idea in all the paintings like and when we arrived to this one I was think I was saying this was printed on top of a of a of a silk um canvas and we you show that and and it was a back and forth process not to make it, you know, very overbearing, you know, uh and don't m the piece, but I think I think it shows, you know, that level of detail.
Yeah. No, absolutely. Um
All right. And then, uh down here we've got our our pledge tiers. Uh so for just $2, you can get in and vote uh on

whatever things are going on, and you get to see all the the the the updates and everything. So, $2 gets you in for updating
and you get access to the pledge manager at the end.
Yes. And you get the pledge manager at the end. Um the the $25 tier gets you the calendar with some there's a secret here. Hm. Interesting. Uh so you get the calendar and you get the QR code website and you get voting and you get all the stretch goals for the calendar. And if you get in early, it's only $21. I don't know how many of those are.
The early birds might be gone. Although I'm I'm purposely not looking at number or anything until we're done with the explanation.
That's correct. I am very much in the same boat. I'm very eager to scroll up, but we won't get there. Uh for $45, early bird is 41, you can get the deluxe history calendar, which is the calendar and a deck of cards and the thumbtack and two fridge magnets uh and four phone wallpapers and four digital posters and all the deluxe stretch goals.
Yep. and uh the ultimate pledge which is

$65 for 61 if you're early bird. You get everything that I just said and a puzzle.
Yeah. So, let me just talk about the puzzle very quickly. So, last year we did this one.
Chad spoiled something for us.
I know. Don't say it yet. We're not there.
Okay. [laughter] All right. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say it aloud.
Yeah. I'll just pull this up. [laughter] It's it's it's 11:20.
We'll talk about the timing of it after. I am curious to see the total once we scroll back up after the explanation.
Sure. [laughter] Sure. Sure. Sure.
So, this was our last year's puzzle, which is hard to see. It's in the plastic, so apologies for my lights, but it was uh Chat Zoey. There we go. Um, and it is a wonderful puzzle. It is also uh the box design done by uh Simon over at actually the Nebula Studios is phenomenal. And um the thing I really like about this, now that we have this next one for Joan, um where is it at? It says puzzle number one. And this one

will say puzzle number two. So they are actually going to be like able to be next to each other and make sense. This one was very difficult. I don't know if you can kind of see the gradation of the brown. [laughter]
Yeah, there's just a bunch of flat brown. Good luck. Uh
I made I made I made this one with my mom, you know, in in my parents house uh when I went, you know, for coffee one day with with them and we just had it on top of the table and and they were all looking at me like with fierce hate in their in their [laughter] eyes like
you draw this and you don't know how to put it together. I was like [laughter] sorry like
you didn't design the pieces. Yeah.
Yeah. It's your fault, you know? Yeah. Tell them tell them this year not to to pick an illustration that that had so much brown, you know.
I'm very happy that because that was sort of like a last minute idea in the campaign last year of just it wasn't

even actually in any tears last year. It was just an add-on you could get uh when you when you sort of went out. This time we're baking it in. This is there you you can sort of like lock it in right from the get-go. uh because they were just so much fun and and all of this art is so beautiful. I want to keep making puzzles, man. Like I think I think that we have at this point by the end of this campaign
what 30 something pieces, right? Like that most of which would make excellent puzzles. So
yeah, I I think I think we have plenty of you know great artwork.
Yeah. um to I mean I spent six months in in the first calendar painting and in the third in the second one I spent like four months because we like streamlined the process much more.
Yeah.
And and and the beautiful artwork that that you know the new artists have put in like is is just amazing
and and I think I think you know making more puzzles like is just I want more puzzles.

Yeah. I want I want like a row of these things in my house. Um, next here is a Scholastic one. So, if anyone for any teachers out there, if you're just interested in getting a bunch of of calendars for classrooms, etc. at the lowest possible thing that we can sell them at, uh, 1045 calendars. Basically, there's no extra like hoopla in this one, but this is just sort of like for any educators out there or who want to put it into classrooms or use it for schools. That's a cheap the cheapest way we can possibly get more calendars into your hand. And then
before we explain this, we should make sure that some of them are left. Hold on.
Let's make sure. I'm sure they are.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Those don't go as fast. So, this one is the $500 tier. Now, you might be saying, Matt, David, will all of the extra history team.
What? [laughter] And you would be right to say that. Um, so essentially what you get to do here, and we've had great success with this in the last few years. Essentially, uh, if you get this pledge, and there's only eight of them because we can only get

that many into our schedule, uh, you will get to work with our team, submit three ideas that we get to choose from and work with you. We give uh, we have ultimately, just to be very clear, we do have full veto, but we'll always go back and forth with you and make sure we find something that like you are happy with in this. and we will um write well research write uh record animate and post uh a extra history short on that topic that we have worked with you to develop.
I just like time to bankrupt the entire French empire for the $500 [laughter] tier from Napoleon Bonapart.
Yeah. my my I I love this tier so much because it's been and like and I got to say like some of the ones actually if you go scroll down a little bit will there's a full playlist uh right underneath this tier of all of the of all of them that we've made so far.
Um so you can kind of see like what you would be getting here and like these were all topics chosen uh by the people who made the pledge level which is just

a really fun thing to do. Uh, and it's something I haven't really seen offered a lot of places, especially at uh, it's funny. Uh, at the at at first the price point is insane and then I'm like, no, that kind of makes that kind of makes sense, [laughter] but again, there's only eight because we can only do eight.
Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Uh, okay, Matt, is it time?
Uh, real quick, let's just go down to shipping because I want to talk. I know there's some questions about that. There's just all the other the prices, etc. We can go through that. The stretch goals. They're coming. These are going to be uh, added all over the place. So, CAT has done uh I think a remarkable job at trying to basically parse out what we believe the pricing will be for shipping. You'll see the final version when you check out, but we wanted to make sure that the shipping cost was upfront right there for everybody for as many countries and places that we possibly could. This is an incred like again we are a very small studio. We also do we've only done physical merch like this scale twice before and each time we've learned um and uh especially

I don't know if you've been watching the news uh but physical merch across votions is a little is a little it's a little unpredictable these days.
Would you say it's hard to sail straight there? Yeah,
I I I would say uh various various tariffs sure aren't deals. Um but the the Yeah. So, we're trying to as best we can let you know exactly what that would be. You'll obviously see the final amount when you uh when you go to check out, but these are the estimates that we have. Uh and Kat has worked uh a long time to try to figure these out.
So, you can take a look at that, make sure that's all uh works for you wherever you are. And of course, you can always reach out to the campaign itself. Like for instance, if you're not quite sure what you want based on shipping, um, pledge the $2 tier, get locked in there. You can always change it later and then message the campaign and we will get back to you as quickly as we can with whatever information we can. Um yeah,
I'm very happy that we, you know,

display uh the shipping cost for all, you know, all continents and everywhere because that's something that my family said, you know, next time tell them. But my mom has this idea that that I I I'm the boss of the studio by some reason like just and I could order people around like it just was like tell Max from your mom, you know, [laughter] just tell her tell her
and look, it works. It works.
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
It was like that they have to fix this because you know was like okay mom just [laughter]
All right.
Are we ready?
We're ready to scroll up. Let's see
cuz cuz we're we're about to premiere our episode. Uh
yeah. Okay. Great. Yeah. That's a number. Uh let me just let me just reload to make sure that that's
um correct. Uh I'm sure it is. No. Yeah, that's Well, sometimes Kickstarter's uh widget gets a little suck. So currently um we've been live for 28 minutes uh and you all funded us in 20 of those

which is uh twice as fast as last year.
Right. So
so holy heck. Thank you very much for that.
If we keep doing these at once
the first year was 4 hours.
The second year was 40 minutes and this year is 20 minutes.
Right. I'm not a math scientist, but at some point it feels like we'll fund the campaign before it starts. [laughter]
I feel like that's like an inevitability.
When will then be now?
Um,
uh, Will, I don't want to block you, but
time Cali cat caffeine ranger had a great question. Can you guys make pins? Uh, fun fact, we actually already do, not in this campaign. This is a specifically a thumbtack to put the you it the reason why it's a thumbtack is the pin the actual pin like pointy bit is longer so it can go in your wall and hold the calendar especially on dates that like once you start flipping pages up and the top gets thicker. Um so it it has a pin back but it will be longer and might not

feel correct on your um like as as a pin pin. But over on our store uh our regular store over on Nebula um we have a bunch of pins. There's so many pins uh that we have and they all look really really nice.
Um I don't think I have any right here sadly.
Yeah. Wow. Well, this is um
this is a lot.
This is a lot.
Yeah. Uh
holy moly.
Tell you what, uh let why don't we take a brief break from from the Kickstarter. Uh it's now 11:30. Let's Should we watch an episode?
I think we should.
All right. Well, let's let me
let's Yeah.
Okay.
So, let's explain exactly how this watch this little mini watch party is going to go.
Uh yeah. So, I'm gonna put [clears throat] I'm going to put the episode on, but I'm going to do a countdown because Matt and David can't hear it through my mic to them for tech reasons. So, I'm going to do a little

countdown. They're going to watch it along with us. Uh and we're just going to watch this episode uh that should be going live soon.
It is public as of now.
It is uh it is public right now. Um so we will uh we'll be watching this thing that you could be watching there, but you should be watching here with everyone else. Um
and then we'll hang out and we'll ask David some questions about the art and then we'll be moving right along. We've got a break neck pace today. We've got um some special guests coming up. Rob will be here at the top of the hour. Then Ally will be here at the top of the next hour. We're gonna be swapping that out for Jeff. But you're stuck with ME THE WHOLE TIME.
THAT'S RIGHT. [laughter]
I MEAN, WHAT?
That's terrifying.
I'm not letting the power go to my head. Let's uh let's [clears throat] let's watch an episode. So,
all right. Count us down, Will.
All right. Uh starting in three, two, one.
My head. Where am I? Wait, where's my lect turn?
Good evening, Mr. Croll. I'm pleased to

see the serum has worn off. Now it's time for a little game.
Okay, who are you? Look, if this is about Zoe's catnip business, I can explain with this.
This has nothing to do with your cat, Mr. Croll. I've been watching you.
A thanks. Wait, so you subscribed on YouTube or over on Nebula, a creator owned and operated streaming?
I'm not one of your regular viewers. I am your replacement.
I'm sorry, what?
You see, I am a man with a vision. a vision and a near infinite budget of tokens for creating loweffort AI generated history content TM.
Oh, why could I ever get kidnapped by cool villains?
But to create my empire of slop, I must first deal with you.
Ooh, nice double on Tandra transition to the episode topic. I'd like to see your AI do that.
Henchmen, the game is poker. Five cards, high stakes.
The rules are simple. If I win, you shutter extra history, making way for my

data centers to drink Earth's water and convert it into listicles scraped from your own scripts.
Oh, but what if I refuse to play and just turn this into an episode about the history of playing cards?
Do not [clears throat] tempt me
into having a GOOD TIME. GREAT. LET'S GO.
I wanted to go full Bugs Bunny here and David killed it.
Yeah, that's great.
Also, here's the ad before it animated again. I got to tell you that the Kickstarter for our history happens everyday calendar is live now. And if you back it at early enough, you'll get quite a deal. You'll see what I mean after the episode. That is if Zoe rescues me first. Zoe,
your first hand, Mr. Crow.
Thank you. H cards. Cards. Really curious things, aren't they? Take this hand. Aces and eights. The dead man's hand. Ominous.
You're not supposed to show us your cards. HEDGEMAN, RED DEAL.
UH, NO THANKS. I like these ones. Say, do you know why it's called the dead man's hand? Well, it's because infamous cowboy Wild Bill Hickok was holding this hand when he was shot dead in a saloon,

creating a name and tradition. And that's because even this common, unremarkable deck, emerged from a millennium of cultural evolution, forming an interconnected story woven through the fabric of global history and lived human experiences that span centuries. Think about it. A deck of cards can fit into nearly any historical sense. Be it an old west saloon, medieval tavern full of boisterous peasants, a modern casino where a swave secret agent duels a less than scrupulous billionaire, or wherever the heck we are where an animated host is fighting against who are you? Like Darren Aronowski? Doesn't matter. But we even place superstitious meanings on these random number generators. I mean, they are related to tarot cards after all. We actually did a whole short about that a bit ago.
Oh my claw on a cross.
Uh, how do you make that thumbnail appear above us, boss?
Never mind that. Make a wager, Mr. Croll. Okay. Well, I would wager that you've never thought just about how much this ordinary deck of cards with its numbers, faces, and jokers all got this way. Because these cards were holding didn't just spring into existence fully

formed and perfectly fanned. Rather, these suits we're playing with here are only the most recent incarnations of a developmental process that stretches hundreds of years and spans the entire globe from China and the Middle East to Europe and onto America.
Please stop flashing your cards. henchmen redee us again.
But some scholars propose that the earliest evidence that we have for gaming cards can be found in 9th century China during the Tong Dynasty. Various sources reference a leaf game being played, but its specifics have been lost. Plus, the leaves themselves were probably only part of a system that also involved dice and a board. But then, Chinese drinking games also used cards that provided written rules and forfeits. And a game called Mao still makes use of money cards featuring various amounts of coins divvied into foruits. They acted as substitutes for actual currency. Kind of like how these poker chips we're using today do.
Correct. Like the ones you're supposed to be wagering right now. I don't think you understand how dire your situation.

See, around this time, card decks used in games such as Ganjifa were developing in Persia. The Ganjifa deck consisted of eight suits of 12 cards. And each suit's 12 cards consisted of 10 number cards featuring motifs such as swords, cups, coins, and polo sticks, as well as two court cards, the king and his adviser, the vizier. See, now this is a hand that's starting to look a little more familiar, right?
WOULD YOU STOP SHOWING ME? WAIT, HOW did you change the cards?
I show my turf, my man. Anyway, Egyptian cards, sometimes called Mamaloo cards after the ruling dynasty, followed a similar pattern, probably descending from the Persian style. And one deck actually survived from the 15th century and consisted of, what do you know, 52 cards and four suits. These were cups, swords, coins, and polo sticks. The sport of polo originated in Persia. As well as the 10 pip cards, there were now three court cards consisting of a king, his deputy, and his underd deputy. Though these cards didn't usually depict the personages on their faces. Intriguingly though, traces of the

influence of the earlier Chinese money cards can be found on Mamaloo cards. They actually used their own version of the Chinese word for the highest number coin cards, myriad, meaning 10,000. So, you're saying there's a link all the way back to Chinese paper cards? Don't encourage him.
Exactly, henchmen. Everything's connected somewhere down the line. And given the steady westward travel of playing cards, it should then be no surprise that they began to appear in medieval Europe. In Barcelona in 1380, there was mention of a man described as a painter and playing card maker. And 3 years earlier, in 1377, records in the Italian city of Florence detailed a playing card ban. And more such bans start to appear throughout cities across Europe over the next four decades, which does a really good job charting their spreading popularity. Of course, these bans were due to cards pretty quickly becoming associated with vice, as people liked combining playing, drinking, and gambling.
You are gambling with your very existence, Mr. Croll, if you don't cease

this stalling.
Hold on there, boss. Maybe we should uh let him speak. I mean, this is way more interesting than your putting faith Teddy Roosevelt videos.
A thanks, Henchie. Now the same year as the Florentine ban, a German monk named Johannes living in a monastery in Switzerland left a record describing playing cards and their various uses. The cards sometimes described as coming from Soros or Moors were clearly descended from the Mamaluke deck and divvied into four suits. Swords, cups, coins, and clubs. Yeah, apparently Europeans weren't really familiar with polo, so they swapped the polo stick for a club. and a single pip card became known as an ace after the old French ass meaning one. The Mammluke court cards were also given a more European flavor consisting initially of a king knight and page. These styles first seen in Italy and Spain are still popular in southern Europe and are sometimes called the Latin suits. Oh, like you said in your tarot deck short.

Don't make him do the thumbnail thing again. That was spooky.
Precisely. By the mid- 15th century, Germany was a prominent playing card manufacturer using processes linked to the woodcutting industry in cities like Nuremberg. Now, card decks back then were expensive, handpainted, and larger than their modern versions. Actually, a 1379 entry into the financial records of the Duke of Luxembourg noted an expense for purchasing decks of playing cards with the same value as 8 and a half sheep. Don't know why they were cutting the sheep in half for value propositions, but you know what? To each their own. Plus, German manufacturers also began to stamp their own styles on the decks. Swords, cups, clubs, and coins were replaced with Germanic pastoral depictions like leaves, hearts, falcon bells, and acorns, though exact designs could vary. Like in Switzerland, shields sometimes replaced the heart and roses the leaves. And the oldest surviving complete set of European playing cards, the Flemish hunting deck, created in the Netherlands in the 1470s, depicts hunting paraphernalia like dog

collars and horns. Hey boss, you could get cards MADE WITH ALL YOUR FAVORITE stuff on them. Like piranha tanks, krypto, Sam Olman, Dameste, the railroad tracks.
Now that's an exciting idea. Wait, no. Stop distracting me.
I mean, what could be distracting about learning that court cards also varied in style? While the king remained, the knight was sometimes replaced by a queen, and the third card was sometimes a prince, the English word often used for the card nave, originally meaning male child. Then in the 17th century game all fours, a point was awarded for a winning trick that included the nave of trumps. This point was called a jack, which could also be a nickname for a common man. Later, it became awkward to have both the king and the nave start with K. So the name Jack replaced nave. Moving down the timeline, France was next to begin mascard manufacturing, synthesizing Latin and Germanic styles. The most common motifs there from the mid- 15th century onward were clovers,

pikes, hearts, and tiles. While the king, queen, and still nave became standard courts. Wait a minute. Pikes are LIKE BIG SPEARS. THAT'S going to be where the spade came from, right? Looks like a spearhead.
Again, A+ henchmen. You want a job after I escape here, you just hit me up. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. [laughter] French card makers then simplified the designs of the pip symbols and habbd the four suits between red and black. This made cards easier to stencil, allowing mass production on the new printing presses. And it's in this late medieval period that cards transitioned rapidly from luxury handcrafted item to a widely available gaming accessory. And even as design simplified, people did start giving court cards elaborate backstories. In the late 16th century, for example, people began associating historical and biblical figures with different suits. like King David was the king of spades, Alexander the Great, the king of clubs, Jon of Arc the queen of hearts, and Lancelot the nave of clubs. We would also be remiss if we didn't mention that

colonialism also played a role in the spreading of playing cards. Native Americans received Latin suits from the Spanish in the 16th century, and the Portuguese traded them to the Japanese, eventually leading to the founding of Nintendo as a Hanafuda card manufacturing company in 1889. No way. So, you're telling me Queen Victoria could have been playing Nintendo technically? Yep. And it was during this steady process of migration that playing cards continued to evolve. And in the 16th century, they were thoroughly embedded into everyday European life. France then introduced a tax on the manufacturer of playing cards. While in England, an organization called the Mystery Makers of Playing Cards of the City of London received royal approval in 1628 with the objective of regulating playing card importation and manufacture. And that company, yeah, that still exists today, which is a prime example of how England had its own impact on the development of the modern deck. After France taxed card makers,

some moved to neighboring Belgium, where they began selling across the channel, meaning English cards followed the French model, but with innovations. Clubs, hearts, diamonds, and spades were popularized in England, with the latter two being transformed from the French tiles and pikes.
If I were playing with this old deck, I could cheat with ease.
Excellent point, slotmonger. And actually a few modifications in the 19th century helped out with that. Since players might recognize specific cards from a dogeared corner or a mark on the back, manufacturers increasingly used rounded corners and elaborate designs or lithographs on the backs of the cards themselves. Numbering the edges also enabled cards to be more easily held one-handed in a fan.
Yeah, but like what about this ace? IT'S ALL FANCY.
WHAT? YOU'RE THE DEALER. DON'T SHOW HIM THE DECK. HA. SEE, British law required that boxes of cards be stamped before leaving the factory to prove the tax had been paid. You know, this stamp took the form of the ace of spades, and the commissioners for stamp duties created an elaborate version of the symbol to foil forggers. Now, it's just

traditional. And with card making becoming bigger business than ever, you can actually start tracing much of this growth back to one man, Thomas Dearu. Born in Gernie in 1793, Dearoo founded a printing company that in 1831 was given the right to print playing cards. With the industrial revolution well underway, Dearoo produced cards like never before. He drove smaller rivals out of business with high production runs, reducing variety and leaving his card designs as the dominant ones. And by the 1860s, we were left with a deck of cards very similar to those that we still play with today. Oh, and Dear Roo's company is actually also still around as the world's largest commercial paper maker.
A huge corporation putting small artists out of business. Now you're speaking my language.
Ew. Though on that note, the US actually did leave its own stamp on cards based off of English decks. It was an American, Lewis I Cohen, who secured the

patent for first introducing the corner indices that streamlined gaming. Plus, Americans also introduced the Joker. Shocking. I know. See, in the 19th century, a card game called Uker became popular in the US, but it required an additional trump card that outranked the two jacks used as the highest and second highest trump. Thus, the Joker came into being, though we don't exactly know why it's called the Joker. Some claim it's a bastardization of the name of the game Uker or the European game it may descend from, Jucker. Then this may in turn have its roots in the German word junker, meaning young nobleman or squire, like the nave. It kind of all loops into itself. Oh, but you know, speaking of jokers, I think that sound I'm hearing means you two better duck and cover.
MY RIDE'S HERE, CHUCKLEHEADS.
NO. ENJOY playing 52 card pickup.
My precious historically significant deck of common playing cards.
Looks like he'll have to deal with that mess. Later, slot merchants. Punch it,

Zoe.
Oh, curse you, Mr. troll and your team of human grain. It's an animated cat that are hellbent on crafting educational videos from your human mind.
Well, extra historians, if there's one thing I'd like you to take away from my kidnapping today, it's this. AI slop sucks. But if there's two things, I think I just want us all to remember that a lot of what we think of as modern commodities have roots running deep into our shared past. And most everyday objects that we use are part of a long historical evolution. And you know, since we're talking about cards evolving through history, why not some that have evolved into extra history?
That's right. This episode,
we don't have to watch the ad for the thing. That's what we're doing right now.
Well, um, Matt, I have, uh, interesting news on that front.
Sure.
So, we were watching an episode,
of course.
And while we were watching an episode, we hit the first stretch goal. [laughter]
Okay. Um I Yes, Cat is on the back end

doing some stuff. Uh let's see here.
So our our first stretch goal uh I think we go down here a bit is uh is that we are going to uh it's so far down. There's so much art.
There's so much good art. There's so many cool things. Uh okay, great. Everybody uh is going to get some credit in the Nebula store uh as as part of
$5 for the calendar tier, $10 for deluxe tier. Deluxe tier and above. Um and also Yep.
Yep. And next up at $15,000 and just $4,000. Uh we'll be doing an extra magnet in all of the deluxe and I guess ultimate tiers. Uh and the uh backers will get to vote on which magnet it is. So please look forward uh to that. immittently, I guess.
Speaking speaking of voting, the pin vote actually when you hit the 10K mark, the pin vote is live now. So, you can choose between History Horse, the Foreshadow, and of course, the one

that's going to lose, Zoe in the Skull. Um, [laughter]
look, look, look. I just want it so we can do the funniest tiny version of Alas Poric. I knew him well, Horatio. But also the the Nebula credit uh gets you I mean all of our stuff is in there. Uh you could get the old puzzle if you haven't gotten the puzzle yet for to keep your set complete if you're doing that. We got extra history mugs in there. Uh worst dads in history. This is uh Vad uh the second. Um we got a whole bunch of stuff in there. Zoey plushies, etc. So that can all go towards that. Um just, you know, or any other creator. I know Patrick Williams has some sick stuff in there. I know Real Engineering a couple others. Like there's a bunch of good stuff. Um, we have a we have a relevant Kickstarter question. Um, Richard wants to know, "How can I have multiples as an add-on because it won't let me get more than two? One from multi, one from the add-on." I believe, let me take a stab in the dark at this. Cat or Matt or really anyone on the team can correct me, but I believe the answer is hang tight. The pledge manager will

be your friend,
right? I believe there's two ways to do it. One, you can just add them when the pledge manager starts at the same price that they are. And I believe the extra one. Wait, so uh the question was about adding more magnets outside of the package.
Mhm.
Um there might be here. Let me You know what? I should I should back this
I [laughter] guess probably.
Let me let me go through the process on my end live and I'll be able to answer that for you.
Uh and then we had last year last year was was an option. No, I think you
I think so. So I'm going to do I'm going to pledge and I'm going to do the deluxe tier and uh shipping destinations. Oh, and that's where it'll show you the shipping cost that is labeled below. You can there's a drop- down menu of what that shipping will cost in addition right when you choose your your package.
Oh, um Richard says uh he can add one outside the package but not two.
Interesting. Let me let me uh put that to the team. Y
that's a good um
um and then someone was asking about add-ons. Add-ons are all down here. You

can get an additional calendar, a deck of cards, uh the exclusive fridge magnets, the Kickstarter exclusive thumb tack, and a reminder the vote for that is live right now. You get some phone wallpapers or uh some digital posters, or of course, you can get the extra Jon of Arc puzzle. Um I really like this as a puzzle. In fact, um well, we only have David for 10 more minutes. I had I had I had a question for David. David, out of all of the ridiculous visual gags, I have two questions. one funny in one series. The funny one is out of all the ridiculous visual gags in that episode, which one was your favorite [laughter]
cuz you got to draw all of these ridiculous things.
Uh the thing it was it was it was great working episode. Um sorry right away. I think the beginning of the episode and the end of the episode is amazing because Matt made well the the script Robbie script was amazing and and Matt like portraying different characters and

like making voices and like all this really quick jokes were very very fun to animate. Um but but but you know like when when Matt like he he he he just called me and went like we have to talk about this episode because this is very fun and it's very fun and I need to tell you and then explain like the the idea and and it came it came like a little bit like we had this idea and the moment we had it we had to do it like like we couldn't back off you like the moment it was written
and I I love that like I love that we as a studio we can just just pivot to something if it's fun and and creative and we have that you know create creatable you know create liberty with writers and artists that's awesome.
I want to I want to give a shout out to David first and foremost for being so game on this thing and then sort of talk about that sort of moving backwards. So obviously David and I had the meeting

like you said and I was like this needs to feel like what if Bugs Bunny was kidnapped by a Bond villain. Yeah,
right. Like that's the vibe, right? And David nailed it through and through the entire time. In fact, the I believe when I first saw the first part of it after the first week, I was like, "Oh, g like this is this is more than I was expecting and I love it." Um, the interesting part here was uh then I you know I recorded my parts of course but then I gave it to our audio editor Mac
who is a lovely uh human being and he uh I was I basically asked him like I did different voices but I I was like I need each of these characters to have different sort of slight pitches that don't sound completely garbly. Uh and he managed to sort of uh accentuate my voice in different ways that I thought was really really nice. And shout out to Robbie and Rob. Robbie had originally written a different script and we were working back and forth on it, like a more traditional Extra History and it was good. It was fine. And Rob and I were doing our notes and then Robbie was like, "Can I try something?" And I was

like, "Yeah." And then he sent a version of that back uh with the three characters. And then it was just me, Rob, and Robbie going through and like punching it up and like writing in the jokes and all this stuff. Like the the the flow of it and getting the information across while there's a silly meta narrative going on felt very appropriate, especially for something that's like uh playing cards. So, it was really it really was an absolute team effort to come up and get to try something different like that. And I think it was a blast.
Yeah. Uh, I also I also want to uh shout out um the the very difficult task that I think David once again just pointed at the at the you know the fence and knocked clean out of the park which is um making all of the historical decks look visually consistent with the art style of the episode but also retaining enough of the original historical version that we understand what is going on. I thought that was really well done. Um, and I I love like one of the places you can see if if you go back is uh the

difference between tiles and diamonds, right? It it's not obvious, but you can see that they're slightly different symbols because we're talking about a thing that converges to a to a modern version. Um, and I I really liked that. But David, what was your favorite of the historical decks, right? Cuz like you're obviously familiar with like modern playing cards, but like was there a particular historical deck that you got to find references for that you were like, "Oh my gosh, this is so cool." and like inspired you.
Um, to be fair, like Robbie did a very good job of putting over Trello,
all the art references in the
with all the with all the in decks and and a lot of examples and and so I I I love I love the the Ghanaifa cards, the Egyptian ones. like I I tried to make a rendition that that Matt, you know, you know, he said, "This this is amazing. If you can do more of this, you know, um and and and also I like the Latin suits

because in in here in Spain, we still use them like our our our cards um culturally, they're not the poker cards."
Yeah. We we have the barpa which is the the Spanish deck and we still use those those um um signs that you know the the that that the deck has actually there's a shot in which I I translated I mean I put it in in Spanish you know how we called every every suit of the of the of the cards and yeah we still we still play with with a with uh to to this day like it hasn't changed in like 200 years.
It's it's so interesting because the Americans are like, "Yeah, our country is getting old. We're 250 years. We're 250 years old this year." And the Europeans are like, "Our decks of playing cards are older than you." [laughter]
Right.
What?

That's it's it's super interesting and like uh yeah, I
I don't know. I love that episode so much. Side note, more questions that are coming in real quick. Um, one people are asking, I see, uh, Cali Cat was asking some questions about like how does it work? Are there different items to pay for? Again, the way that it sort of functions is there's different packages. There's the standard, which is just a calendar, the deluxe, which has some things, and the ultimate, which has all the things, or you could just pledge $2 to get access to buying the specific small items, like the the playing cards, for instance, are $15. Uh, and also on that note, I forget who asked about the magnets, but Cat has now changed it so you can add an additional two magnets instead of just one pack of magnets. The reason we can't do more off the cuff is it then starts to affect the estimated shipping cost. Got it.
It It's not an automatic system that's like, oh, there's 12 magnets in this box that will cost X. This is all kind of handone. Again, we are a small studio working with small distributors. Like so like we can't accurately give the

shipping for how much does 37 magnets cost at this point with a puzzle and these other like it'd be too in the weeds. So um I think in the pledge manager you'll be able to add more if you really want
but um but then the price the shipping price would switch there as well.
Okay. Um,
I think was that I think Oh, and I also had someone uh I I Keegan Decker said something during the episode that shocked me and I always wanted to know this has nothing to do with the campaign. Uh, they said they met their husband from Extra Credits like from watching it and I'm just curious if they're still here how that happened.
Yeah, that's very cool. Um, uh, we got we got one more uh question. Will the Jon of Arc puzzle be available on your merch store? It will. However, we the Kickstarter is the only way to guarantee getting the stuff before like the holidays, right? Like, uh, we're going to try our darnest to get all this stuff in the in the in

the store so it could get delivered by then for like people outside the campaign. But that's kind of Oh, this plays into another question that C um uh Cat also asked. Um, Cat in the Chat, not not EC Cat. um essentially that um why don't we do this Kickstarter later? Like who's thinking who's really thinking about their calendar for next year in July? Uh and the reason is we have so much to do to build this thing um that we and to get it all made and shipped and to ensure that tariffs don't mess with us and try to get it on the boats over here in time for, you know, to deliver for the holidays, etc. Like, so we have to keep doing it earlier and earlier every year to help ensure that. Yep. Um, that's kind of that's kind of the name of the game.
Yeah, it's not necessarily intuitive. You're like,
why would I but it's
it's not even Christmas in July yet, right? Like it's we're so far out. Uh, and that's why um lead time on manufacturing is longer than you probably think it is

actually. actually um as a as an one of the illustrators in extra credits um there's many times well all the time Jeff Matt comes over and said could you start with the Christmas card and we're in the middle of August you know and this is
just the sun is trying to kill you [laughter] like
okay I'll get in the festive in the
Are you not in the holiday spirit David it's 104 degrees outside.
So, I have to like come up with with like I I just put the air con very very, you know, chilly and, you know, put all the penguin, you know, uh stuff stuff, you know, plushies that I have around me. [laughter]
Yeah,
totally. [clears throat]
To to make it Christmy and to get inspired.
Uh
yeah.
Well, it is it is almost time for us to say farewell to David. So, let's before before Rob gets in here and we we have

to do a complicated switch off. David, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for all for doing all of the amazing art for the uh for the episode and for the Kickstarter. Um one last thing, uh we haven't shown all the art yet, but could you tell us without spoiling anything um which artist was the most fun to emulate this year? Oh, interesting. [snorts]
Uh, I'm actually finishing one of the four pieces that that I have in the in the calendar. And
and this is one that you suggested if I remember correctly. and and and we usually we usually Jeff and and and Rob like pull up like a a huge trailer with like a lot of like um historical painting trends and I was like wow this is amazing and then and then was like well you the artist just just let us

know more artists and I was like okay uh how many do you want you know like and so so so for this one is for July and and Jeff like said it has to have, you know, summer traits and and I always push u Spanish artist when I when I can and this this one is a Spanish artist and it's one of my favorites because it captures just just the you know just the tip so maybe you know could could guess it captures light beautifully. It's called, you know, uh,
yeah, we can't spoil what it is yet.
Yeah. But no, I think I think you've given everybody a great taste. Well, David, thank you. Thank you so much for joining us today. It is it is always a lovely pleasure to have you on. Uh, and I will uh hope that you have an excellent rest of your evening evening
time zones, y'all. And speaking of time

zones, as we as we let David get back to his uh
Bye, David.
Bye, David. We're going to we're going to bring in another guest uh who is just joining us from yet another time zone. Uh this is the part where you vamp while I do this.
This is the part where I vamp about us being at $13,534 for the Kickstarter with 213 backers in just an hour. Uh that's bonkers to me. Um every time we do this, you never know. [laughter]
Yep. I absolutely agree. Uh, you never know. And you have all blown this uh out of the park, I think. Are all the early birds gone? I'm kind of like going through. Uh, the regular early birds are still here. Um, the deluxe early birds are gone.
Yes, the deluxes and the ultimates are all gone. All that remains is the um

the standard
is the standard early birds. That's correct. And we're
early bird ultimate sold out. Yeah.
Yes.
Oh, lovely. Well, we're we're we're having
are we having a technical difficulty?
Say it with me, chat. We're having technical difficulties. But tell you what, while while I'm working on technical difficulties, I know that I need to give Brad and Janet uh extra history uh extra historians, if you're unfamiliar, YouTube, Janet, Twitch, Brad. There is a long story. We won't go into it, but Janet with Rocky or a picture show.
Yeah. You know,
um uh this is a great question. Uh Calcat wants to know, "What are our favorite episodes of Extra History?"
Um I think personally lately, it's funny because you we do so many that like you have them in your mind for the two or three months that you're working on them and then you have to jettison them to to to make room for the next one. I think my my favorites uh so far were actually

um the one that jumps to my mind right away is our secret society series that was very very fun. In fact uh we did a panel over at um Magfest a couple years back and uh we did a game of cult the following
um which is a really fun card game that's like what if cards against humanity but creative. Uh, and you basically get to design like it's basically like interactive uh, improvisation. Um, and basically the audience got to ask a panel of us. I believe it was me, Jordan, Ally, and Will. Maybe Red was there too where we were all cult leaders. We had to design cults off of prompts and then the audience had to ask us questions and then at the end of the panel, they got to choose which cult to join. And the winner of that got to have their cult secretly inserted into one of the episodes of our secret societies uh series. I believe that is in episode four of the secret society series. And Will won. And Will, I believe his cult was named the cult of the business corgi because he was uh he was into big business but he was also wearing a corgi karimi at the time. And so now if you go

back to that episode and find it, there is there is uh that reference in there. If you've ever been to Magfest, I don't need to explain why I was wearing a Corgi Kirimi. And if you've never been to Magfest, I cannot explain why I was wearing a Corgi Kirimi. So, just go with it.
Also, speaking of this, real quick, uh we are actually going to be Jeff and I will be at uh and James will be at Gen Con this year. And on Thursday, if you happen to be there at 4:00 or 4:30, we're doing that panel again where we will have a panel of uh some EC folks be I believe it's called Extra History. It's not a cult is the name of the panel. and uh we'll have some of us and some friends and and we're going to be playing cult again with that same prize of hiding the winning cult in an extra history episode. So, if you happen to be in Indianapolis uh in a week and a half or whatever, uh come say hi at that panel.
Yep. Um we're we're continuing to have everyone's favorite uh midday technical difficulties getting uh our um one of our one of our uh distant friendos on. So, mods, if you would do me a favor and post uh the link to the puzzle. So we

thought it might be interesting to let all of you collaborate just like we collaborate uh on something uh that that relates to this. So we have for your um for your viewing pleasure a puzzle. This is a thousandpiece [laughter] version of the Jon of Arc art which uh you've you've seen. Uh you can go up here in the upper lefthand corner. The mods are posting it here. This section is locked. I'll give you a freebie. This is the um this is the watermark, the extra history watermark, but it's 1,000 pieces. Ready, go. Uh
also, uh I have just been informed that two of the 500 tiers have already been claimed uh in the first hour and 6 minutes. So, that's wonky. Number go up. So, uh does anyone else have any questions about the campaign while you are jumping in here to work on this puzzle collaboratively? And uh I love this program, by the way. I love that we're able to do these puzzles here. And

I believe will we kind this program records the the movements of the puzzle pieces and therefore we end up using these things as like cool little gifts at the end uh in the campaign.
Yep. Yep. Yep. Uh exactly. So uh we we we get like a full a full uh time lapse of this. Uh
now our puzzle our physical puzzle of this will not be a thousand pieces. I believe it'll be around 500. [laughter]
Yes, this this one is harder. I made this one harder because uh well there's three chats worth of you and not like you and three family members gathered around a kitchen table. Um also uh Twitch chat has an unfair advantage. They did this one already. So uh and you have the box art. So I I feel no shame at all in making it harder. I will tell you for free though.
Found the logo.
Yeah.
All of the pieces are right side up. You're welcome.
Yeah. Uh, also Kyle Matthews, yes, please do come say hi at Gen Con.
Absolutely. Do that thing.
Yeah, we'll be there Thursday. I believe Jeff Jeff has a I might be moderating a

panel that Jeff is doing. He'll be able to talk more about that on Friday as well about board game design.
Yep.
Um,
okay.
I just don't know the time of that one off the top of my head.
Uh, uh, all right.
Hi, Barry the Barry.
Hi.
Welcome.
Hello,
to the Kickstarter live stream,
Matt. Thank you so much for your gracious vampitude while I bring in someone whose uh work uh many of you are familiar with though maybe you don't see his face so often.
Say hi Rob.
There's his face.
Can we hear Rob? Speak for us Rob.
I I you can now I'm sure
there it is.
Indeed we can.
Hello
Mr. Robert Wrath in I was
I was muted as per instructions.
There we go. Good. Good. He Rob is nothing if not precise in his implementation.
Yeah.
Uh how you doing, buddy?
I'm all right. I'm all right. Uh though I clicked last year's video link. That

was the problem.
Listen, I wasn't going to put you under the bus. I was going to say it was technical difficulties. I I understand.
I was the technical difficulties. Listen, listen. Not everyone uses these things multiple times a week uh to to set up our various live streams over on the Extra Credits YouTube and Twitch.
Uh for those of you who do not know, uh Robert Wrath is our illustrious lead writer for Extra History and has been for a very very very long time. Uh pretty much everything 90% of everything you've seen and loved here uh has been has been things that he has touched. So uh or written. So uh and and this calendar and and uh elements around it are no different. Um yeah, Rob, we we are slowly, not even slowly, very quickly turnurning towards like the third stretch goal at this point or second.
We are less than $450 away uh from from

our $15,000 stretch goal. Um and and just as just as impressive, we just passed an hour. Uh there are 230 backers. Like the the dollar number is always like great. That's that is that is how we [clears throat] we get to make calendars and make stuff and send it out to all of you and people want the things that we're making. But one of the things that really does it for me is how many of you are interested in this stuff at any level, right? Like it it is really heartwarming to see uh that that many people want to like support th this cool idea that we had 3 years ago. and uh are now doing uh we've learned every time and it's getting better and better and better.
Uh also Alex says uh he looks like the guy from the extra context videos. [laughter]
How would you know? He's not
closely related.
Yeah, [laughter]
he he's not surrounded by Warhammer paraphernalia. How could you? [laughter]
How would you tell?
No, we're in a summer visit to uh

relatives. So, I am coming from Vancouver, Canada today. So,
well,
which is a lovely, lovely city, beautiful place.
Uh, Rob, before the stream today, I woke up early because we're we were hard at work on all of our little angles of this um of the Kickstarter process and the calendar, etc. And, uh, one of my jobs is after Rob has completed uh, going through and finding the dates for the special images that link to our videos, etc. I because I am the keeper of all of the media on my side. I go through and I start pulling the episodes that we can then pull images from to put on the calendar. Uh the the dates this year are pretty fun. Like there's there's also something I really appreciated and I don't think I I
I don't know if it's because like we're linking to one or two of the newer series or something like that, but there was something really fun about like especially maybe in a month or like between months like the end of one month and and the beginning of another. There's a um like you can almost follow

a path of a specific story based on the episodes which is which is really cool to see.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's one of my favorite things to do. Um I think last year was the one where we did sort of the advancing dates towards the Pearl Harbor attack.
Y
um and that was that was great. Um, we have a uh we have a series coming up on uh can stay shooting and a lot there's like a bit of that in this calendar um with you know the US invasion of uh incursion into Cambodia and like that kind of thing and sort of seeing how things develop um over time and that's what's really fun to use. I'm always talking about
trying to use the medium or the format in the best way possible to tell a story. And that's true like on YouTube or like you know whatever. But it's true in the calendar too is you want to uh get the idea of like the proximity of certain things uh to each other if they're if they're interesting or

notable.
Yeah, it is. As someone who um recalls dimly the days of sitting in a temp learning about AP US history, uh it is it is occasionally difficult to put into like real context how long some of these lasted, right? Cuz you get like uh you get like the flashbulb version, right? You get like here is this thing all of it all at once and it's all just like this event but you don't get like on this day this happened and then 3 days later this other thing happened and on a fourth day this thing happened as a result of the first two like that is such a a relatable thing.
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, sometimes it's surprising when you do that how long it is between certain events and sometimes you get surprised by how quickly, you know, things happened. Um I uh you know if you if you did like a calendar there

was a really good uh Twitter account for a really long time called World War II in in real time um which did like it was tweeting like multiple tweets a day like every day of the war some event and you know if you followed it it was really eye opening to be like the battle of Stalenrad has ended [laughter] and you're like we started that months ago you know. Yeah. Um, and uh, yeah, so I it's always fun to use the calendar in that way. And I always like to get a variety of dates, right? So one day you're doing ancient history and the other day you're doing 20th century. Um, and you know, it really does just make you think about how everything that's happened in history has been on a big spherical chunk of rock that is spinning its way through the cosmos.
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Yeah. Carl Sean's pale blue dot speech lives rentree like burned into my soul. I think I think that like working with with extra

credits and extra history that is like the one thing I think that stuck with me in a very real way is the is that all of this happened on this pale blue dot suspended in a ray of light.
Uh real quick uh starirl asks, "How do we do the puzzle on screen? Do we need to pay? I am broke." No, you do not need to pay. Uh, if a mod could put the link back in the chat so it is refreshed, that would be lovely. You can click that and then move it around. Also, that brings up an extra uh uh an extra I can't stop saying the word extra. A a very good point. An extra point, one might say. Uh, if you are here and vibing and just like the channel, but have no money for a calendar to support or anything like that, that's totally a okay. We love that you're here. You being here and being one of the people watching and and going through this with us and watching the videos, etc., is a huge help. The other thing you can do if you are so inclined is just share the campaign on your socials. Uh if if you can't if you can't or or for whatever reason aren't able to to partake, please just share it with folks because maybe there's people down the line that can also do it too and maybe it'll get in

front of someone who didn't know it existed and it'll be one of their favorite things.
Right. And and and one of the things that you are doing by being here is helping us appease the algorithm. All hail all hail.
Yeah. All hail the algorithm. And you can help the puzzle go faster.
Yeah. [laughter] Well, I mean, the puzzle's going pretty fast for being a thousand for being a thousand pieces. It also It also helps that this piece of art is so um richly colored with so much detail, right? You can see that um Chad that everyone immediately like got Joan's face and they were like, "All right, this is Joan's face." And uh here's her hand with holding the flag pole and they were like, "This is Joan's dress." And then we've got the fields of flowers and the and the stuff.
Val Val absolutely crushed this. Um
uh
so so happy to be working with Voodoo Val. Uh we became friends through the convention circuit honestly. Uh and her work she's been working she's been doing work for all sorts of places and I I caught her working with a friend of the

show Jasmine Ber um on all her stuff. So uh yeah, phenomenal phenomenal artist.
Yep. Um, uh,
can I do a minor all hail the algorithm tangent?
Sure.
Okay. So, I've been in Canada visiting family. I love Canada. Uh, wonderful country, but like some of my my in-laws that live up here kept talking about how they had taken a car trip out to a place called Cultist Lake. And I'm like, cult cultist Lake? And they kept saying it. I'm like, "Cultist Lake, though. It's called Cultist Lake." And I finally had to ask like, "Hey, is this what you're saying?" They're like, "No, no, it's Cultist. CULTIST LAKE."
LIKE, "OKAY, THAT'S different than what I like."
But we did eat at a eat at a restaurant that was owned by a cult there. So, [laughter]
how do you HOW DO YOU KNOW? BUT ACTUALLY, YES, that like I don't Okay.

I I was more interested in the lake when it was Cultist Lake. I'm not going to lie.
I know. I know. I was like I was like, well, I was like, this is I'm going to get an episode out of this.
Yeah, that's fun.
Yeah.
Speaking of speaking of episodes, Rob, there's been some ask in the in the in the chats across the way uh for what possibly one of your favorite Extra History episodes has been. And while you answer that, I would like to ask chat across the two YouTube channels, Credits History, and of course then Twitch, what their favorite Extra History episodes are, cuz they always ask us, and I want to know what theirs is. And I'm going to give Rob just a little more time to think about which of his children you've asked him to tell is his favorite um by letting you all know that we did just cross $15,000 in just over an hour and 15 minutes.
Yeah,
guys, it's running for 30 days.
Thank you very much, everyone.
Thank you. We just doubled our goal in an hour and 15 minutes.
Yeah.
Wildacking.
Absolutely wild. Rob, please. uh regail

us with a tale if you would.
Oh man, that's um I I have a hard time picking a favorite anything to be honest. I'm I'm one of those people. Uh one that I I always really like the kind of weird dudes in history type ones. I'm very proud of that s that short series in general. I just love every episode of it. Um a lot of times I like the ones that I go and find someone to write especially because it's not like my writing. So I could I could uh I I really love the one about Goodwin Wharton. That was uh when I very specifically I did the weird dudes in history short and I was like I need to go get specifically we have a guest writer Duncan who's very good with that kind of thing and I'm like I need to get Duncan to write this because it's it's so good. I'm still I'm just very proud of the um 1918 flu pandemic especially the complete that came out. Um you know the fact that we did that in 2018 and it was so vital for people. It's a it's a something I'm frequently even kind of

relatives that don't watch the channel generally will often talk to me about how they went and watched that during the pandemic and it helped contextualize things for them. So I think in the end that's probably my favorite, the one that I'm most proud of. Uh I looked at Viking expansion again uh the other day and I was like, "Wow, this is really good [laughter] for for like one of the first first ones uh I did. I was very proud of it." Um and how how we pulled that one together. I really like the Anchor one as well because I went to Anchor and could pull on like the experience of being there.
Um and policing London because that's like my personal little obsession.
Very fun. I love the Poling London series.
Yeah. Jack Shepard, Jonathan Wild, Policing in London. That's my personal favorite.
Um
I I I really loved this year. I really loved the um the uh uh uh

we we ended up renaming it, so I'm forgetting the exact exact London London After Dark. London Horrors. Yeah, London Horrors. More Victorian. It
was originally Victorian Horrors.
Speaking of the algorithm. Yeah.
Yeah. Uh because I just uh I love that. I mean that whole thing like press publications and the press and crime again is like one of my favorite little pet subjects and it was great to get into that. And um the way that feeds into fiction I think is not something that people realize like quite so much that so much of how we perceive crime and the justice system is filtered through fiction and a lot of that fiction is kind of taking something real and just going off somewhere completely imaginary with it. Right. Um but then that becomes part of how we filter reality, right? And I just I I can't I I I love that subject. I would love to explore it more. Um, but you know, and and one of the reasons that it's really

important that we have uh our Patreon uh backers or and and and the Kickstarter like is that you know, it allows us to go in these little narrow alleys that might be a little bit off the beaten path and not just sit there every single time going,
is this is this going to hit on the algorithm or is it okay taking a risk, you know? Um
yeah to be perfectly honest that's a really great point Rob like things like the calendar and you all supporting it along with Patreon along with Nebula along with all the other different ways uh real and YouTube memberships etc are the reason why we can do things like that are the reason why we can do why we feel comfortable enough to put up uh do the extra to complete on like the Haitian Revolution because that's that like things like that while super important and should be taught far more um the algorithm does not reward And so only through support and doing extra pro extra projects like this uh are we able to keep doing things like that. Um it's

just it's very very fun. Uh side note uh I was seeing a question about some gaming stuff from Ranger. Ranger uh tune in approximately whenever this stream is done to Design Club. Uh it'll it'll be coming right after this when they switch over to some game stuff over on the Extra Credits channel. I'm sure they'll be talking about that. Um,
thanks for volunteering me to talk about a new story I haven't read about.
Uh, sorry. Well, normally I would say we do it on breakfast, but Games for Breakfast is off for two weeks because of travel. So, yeah,
I throw it to you and Jeff.
Um, a couple good favorites, obviously. Uh, I'm looking at sort of the the chats all throughout here. Uh, Katherine the Great one. Uh, someone called out John Brown. Uh, social called out the John Brown series. I love the John Brown series.
Yeah.
Uh, that's one of my absolute favorite. Book Dragon. uh also mentions Third Century Crisis. Totally not just because the catchy song that will not get out of my head. That was one of my absolute favorite things.
I think one of
I would put John Brown up there actually now that now that you mentioned that's partially also because I had a history professor at University of Hawaii who

was a specialist in John Brown. And because of this, I had heard him lecture on what eventually became his book. But I finally got to read his book that he he had gotten out just a few years before he passed away. He'd been working on it like his whole life.
Yeah. And it was really great to take take Professor Mcloan's work and integrate it into our series in a in a way of honoring him. It was really wonderful.
Also really lovely to hear RM Strong say that one of their favorites so far was the Sitting Bull series uh because that I felt really really strongly about as well. And uh that's such an interesting there's something I think Rob you and I have talked about this before but there's something so interesting when when we have our p our patrons get to vote on topics then we sort of mold those topics into what the what the actual series will be and Sitting Bull was super important to me but also it falls into that history especially for the algorithm that like everyone who's gone I can only speak for the US education system like people know who Sitting Bull is and one or two things

about the very sort of like baseline like cliffnoty of a cliff ny of a cliffnoty thing and not the whole story the whole story is fascinating and important but in topics like that I feel like sometimes people don't click them because they see oh sitting bull I already know that right like it's just that level of like familiarity versus like you might like so again and that's on us to sort of like make sure that we can communicate that we're giving more but uh a sitting bowl is a series that I feel like was only made possible by by folks like you who support stuff like this. Um yeah.
Yeah. I also really loved um
Frederick the Great. Yeah.
Oh, so I will
uh Christmas Truce.
Oh yeah,
Christmas.
Yeah. Christmas trees. Well, like I love
there is so much of history that is occasionally reminding us that people

have been people as long as people have been people.
Um, and what I really like are the moments that remind us that that is both a good thing and sometimes a bad thing, right? that like yeah, we've always had problems and there have been like some terrible things that have happened over the course of human history, but man, do I love when we get like and on that day this beautiful, wonderful once in a-lifetime kind of moment happened.
On the opposite of that, I think that the Christmas Truth is my favorite Christmas episode, but it's it's I did it so long ago at this point. Like I've been I've been the headwriter here eight years and I think that was before I came on as headwriter. So it was like almost a decade ago. But
I have just always had a really special place in my heart for the eggnog riot.
Eggnog.
That is a very like that's a very like people are people no matter when thing as well in sort of the opposite way like [laughter]
Yeah.

Not necessarily a nice way more a stupid way.
Totally. Totally. Yeah.
Um what was I going to say? I just saw where was it? Am I okay after my kidnapping? Yes, I am fine. I am a little chafed from the ropes, but luckily I am a cartoon. Um,
also, [laughter] it turns out that Zoe is a really great getaway driver and not so great at obeying the laws of the road.
Yeah. Uh, Brody asked a question after the 30 days of this campaign. Where else can we get the cards and the calendar and things? They will be available in the store over on our our store over on the the the Nebula store. The link to our store isn't the end of every video. It is in every part of our channel. You can go find that very easily. If you're watching this, I'm sure there's a link somewhere, even a rail underneath it showing where our store is. Uh the but the only place that we can guarantee that you'll get this before the holidays is from the Kickstarter. We are working to make to see what we can do about getting the fulfillment in fast enough to get it in the store before the holidays. But if you're if you want this thing uh guaranteed, you know, this year, the Kickstarter is the the safest place to do it.

Um
yeah. Uh let's uh let's let's go back to uh campaign for a second. We're at 15,797 with f 252 backers. We got 34 left of the early bird baseline.
Yep. And all of the other early birds are sold out. Uh, we also only have seven of eight um of the make your own history left.
Yep.
Just looking through looking through. Oh, mine is Yeah, I got to refresh refresh
refresh refreshing along.
Seems like the uh the ultimate is very popular this year. Uh as
the ultimate is very popular. So we, you know, it's funny because the c the the campaign like the the calendar is the centerpiece, right?
Right.
I think this year though, we have the coolest other things alongside it.

Uh
I am I am incredibly incredibly proud of the card deck.
Yeah. Uh Ally, who will be joining uh later this stream uh who who illustrated those is it it's so good. They're so I cannot wait as someone who plays a lot of card games and as someone you know what game I cannot wait to play with it. I forget if I've talked to either of you about this. The Gang
has any Oh my god. The easily the best card game based on poker principles to come out uh in the last I don't know 50 years. It's so good. It's what if Texas Holde but cooperative.
Okay.
It's neat. wonderful if check out the gang uh anywhere. But like I I want to just switch out my deck in that game for for this deck because it will be so much fun to do. Um yeah, I I love the cards, the puzzles. I'm so psyched we're doing puzzles like actually

it it's
like having sets. It's surreal to me that a random idea that I had based on a thing that I'd seen on the internet turned into a tradition as part of the Kickstarter turned into a physical puzzle that people are spending their hard-earned dollars on. That's wild to me cuz we I we started it when we saw how much fun you all were having with puzzles like the like the one that everyone's doing right now, right?
And then we were like, "Hey, what if what if we did an actual physical puzzle?" And then Matt stepped in and was like, "Actually, among my 10,000 hats, I'm also an expert in what makes a good puzzle." [laughter] And gave us great guidance on that. And then we had a physical puzzle.
Yeah. [snorts] It's And I'm just I don't know. I just like I really like that we're kind of uh able to take these swings and you all let us do so um with the ability uh you know, the support is why we get to do cool stuff like this outside of the channels, which is which is really lovely. Yep. Absolutely. Uh

I'm looking for our tag.
Oh, I did. I was like, where did the chat go? I haven't scrolled down in forever. Sorry. I was like, it's not moving.
Yeah, we we do want to uh apologize, chat. There are
more of you in more places than normal. So, we're we're bouncing around a bit between chats and trying to make sure that we catch all those messages. And if we don't get to yours specifically, uh it's either that we don't think we have a good answer that can be succinct or we missed it.
Uh so right now I just got an update from from Cat about the votes for the for the push pin for the thumbtack.
Uh it will shock no one that Zoe is in the lead in 50% of the votes followed by the foreshadow at 38.5. the foreshadow very good very good at showing up
like right at the end to really like to to down and sadly history horse only has 11.5 cat goes rip history horse there's STILL PLENTY OF TIME plenty of time

I I feel like history horse is one of the old school memes right like horse and beachball feel like
horse is classic horse has been with the show since before any of us have been with the show.
I know horse and beachball are both older than us.
Yeah,
but but like
how dare How dare you, Blue Bricks? How dare you? Hello.
I um yeah, it's uh yeah.
Oh, look at this. Uh Spatial says something very nice here. Uh playing card deck announcement coordinating with the extra two playing cards episode one of the best ideas of all in a while. Love me that stuff for the culture. Thank you so much. That's very nice. Yeah, we Yeah, we Yeah, Hexnake Wallpole Zoe is quite iconic. It is. It is true. It is known.
Um Matt,
I like this one from Corey Kum.
Yeah,
I think that's supposed to be consumed, but I like it.
Absolutely. Um

in indeed they are. Jeff, uh Matt, could you as uh before we get Jeff in here uh and swap out because it's almost that time because believe it or not, we've been on for an hour and a half. That's insane to me,
right? No. Time is wild. Uh, could you cover for me ever so quickly while I go and refresh my beverage?
I can. Rob, what did you think about the Odyssey? Did you see it yet?
Oh god.
I have not. We have tickets. We have tickets for next week.
Perfect. Okay, then we looking forward to it. Um,
I'm I'm a I'm a little hot cold with Nolan to be perfectly honest. Um, but I but I feel like I feel like this is going to be hot one. I'm I'm excited for this one. Yeah, it's uh it's it's worth your time. Uh Brody asked a question. What's another thing with the with the pin? How does that work? Again, essentially when you broke when the when the campaign broke the first stretch goal, the voting uh opened up for anyone who pledged at any level. You can vote on what the pin that we or the thumbtack that we produced that will hold up the calendar. Two years ago, um it's going to be hard to see because we're tiny,

but Walpole, I believe, on the thumbtack won. He's sitting on a little thumbtack here. It's hard to kind of see him, but he is. Um, and that's a longer push pin that so it can hold it in the wall and when the calendar, you know, start flipping pages up, pop that in. Uh, Zoe uh won last year and now that'll be this year. It's basically the Kickstarter exclusive item you will not be able to get in the store. You if you want the thumbtack to hang the calendar, that is Kickstarter only. and the voting it's uh in the l the link to it is in the updates for uh once you've backed it there'll be an update section that you can go see. Um Ranger off topic have you guys seen the laring trend and what would you think of a of a lar channel larping y'all? I don't know how you would LAR us. The the the stat blocks alone I feel like would be insane.

Mine you just have some like redheaded hand puppet that like interrupts the stream every once in a while.
Yeah.
My daughter is safely downstairs this this year. I don't think we'll have a a jump appearance.
Wait, are we talking about small dev jump scares? I feel like we're about to talk about small dev jump scares.
Uh, real quick, can we go because there's some questions about the pins. Can we go to the page and then I'll jump off and trade out with Jeff. Go to the page showing the pins uh what the options are because we were talking about them.
Absolutely. We can certainly
There they are. So, those are the ones that everyone who is back who backs this Kickstarter can can vote on essentially. That will be what holds up your calendar. Um, they're all adorable. I love them so much. I'm I I think I just really have a soft spot for history horse. [laughter] I'm gonna vote for history horse.
I like I like the horse though. Uh I I would probably vote for the foreshadow cuz I also love the foreshadow.

I we I can we we need to get foreshadow back in more. There's we absolutely I think we can I think we can do it in in the rest of this year. At least one series.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Um all right. I should get out of here, right, Will? So we can get Jeff in. Uh yeah, Jeff's not in the waiting room yet, but that's okay.
Well, as soon as he is, I can bounce because then I'll start doing some backendy things.
Yeah, we are the the the whole team is on deck today. Even the ones you don't see here are are hard at work um updating the the Kickstarter page, answering questions, uh updating social media, doing stuff like that. Um
we're at $16,422. We've been live for [snorts] 96 minutes. Uh, Jeff is asking if you cannot see him.
I see. I see.
Oh, no. Now I can. Great. Excellent. I had to refresh a thing. Uh, I will. All right, Matt.
Uh, hey. Uh, yeah. Can you make us big in the cafe again and then I'll and I'll jump out.
Yeah. Um, one when when Oh boy. Hold on.

I got to do like three things now.
Uh, seriously everybody, thank you so much. Whenever we do these things, and you're going to be hanging out for much longer than I am here, uh, we never know how they're going to go, we have hopes, and we work really hard and the entire team comes together and does a bunch of extra work on top of all of the other extra work we do. Um, and it is incredibly heartwarming that you are all sort of taking to this sort of annual tradition and coming at it harder and faster every time with all of your uh, support and well wishes and kind words. So, thank you very much. will be talking to you for the will, uh, Rob, Jeff, Ally, bunch of other folks will be talking to you for the rest of the day. Then please stay tuned after this and head over to the Extra Credits channel where Will will be tossing at the end of this to go to Will and Jeff's talk show, Design Club Live, which they are going to be talking about a whole bunch of gaming stuff. Um,
we're actually talking about crunchy historical games. So, if you like history and gaming, there

come on over. We're going to talk about that.
Um, until the next time I speak with you, I will go give Zoe lots of pets. uh and scratches and treats. Rob, thank you so much for for joining us as well. Uh David, thank you for in the ether wherever you are for joining us. Will, thank you for running a immaculate stream. Uh a immaculate stream. And uh yeah, everybody, keep enjoying, keep pledging, keep doing the thing. Share it all around. I'll talk to you guys later.
All right, he's gone. Um,
I would just I would just like to point out that we have hit a massive milestone in that our Kickstarter is now 23,340 Canadian dollars.
Wow. That's, you know, Oh, because you're in Canada, so you're
in Canada. So, I opened it up to see like, what's the progress?
Oh, that's weird.
Yep, it it will. Yes, it does. It does do that. All right, let me get Jeff in here. Hold on. First, I can make him a

dis a disembodied voice. Uh, and I can do that first. Um, no. Interesting. Interesting. Okay, we're having once again technical problems, but don't worry about that because I have So, chat, I'm going to I'm going to level with you all. I'm I'm 100% going to level with you all. This is me uh giving you the keys, right? This is this this right here is me jingling keys. Look at look at the look at the enrichment. Look at the enrichment for the enclosure. Look at it. Look at it. Um
man, that is that is going fast.
Well, I So, ahead of time, I shared the link to this puzzle with the mod so that they could distribute it to all of you when the time was right. And um uh he um there they were all like,

"Will, why do you hate us? Why is it a thousand pieces?" And I said, "Cuz I'm going to give you all the picture and there's three chats working together on this. It won't take that long." And they were like, "No, it's going to take forever." And I see I was right. Once again,
it's really mesmerizing.
Mhm.
He's just like I'm actually really looking forward to it. Um when we when we get done, um I'll show everyone the time lapse, what the time lapse looks like. Um they're they're quite it's very interesting to see how especially because before they figured out where this flag went, it like bounced all over the place. It'll be very interesting to see because the way it works is [clears throat] every time a puzzle piece touches down
um that is a snapshot. That's a move.

Uh so like if you're if you're working on like a piece off on the side and then it moves in, it'll show all of those. Um, and because this flag moved around so much, I I think that'll be quite interesting. Um,
it's a gorgeous just a gorgeous piece of art, too.
It really is.
And like I was mentioning earlier, this is the puzzle that of all of the things that we've done, um, aside from Starry Night, which doesn't really count cuz you you see you see Star Night and you're like, "Oh, that's Starry Night." Like, it's not, right? It's uh this is one of the ones where someone has gone, "Oh, that's Oilia."
Yes.
Um because of these flowers right here in the in the upper right hand corner. Um these uh tipped tipped off someone in chat. Uh also, it should surprise no one that there's a bunch of art nerds in our community. There's a bunch of nerds in our community. Uh and that's really wonderful. Um nerds of nerds of all different different kinds. And uh yeah.

Um will we share the finished gift thing? Yes, probably. Uh I will uh well I I will give it I will make sure that it gets to Cat and um that she she has the option to to fit it in. Although I know Cat, if you've never worked with Cat, has a far more complete understanding of the way all of our socials work than I do. I I do one social. I post on my blue sky. That's it. [laughter] Um, and Cat has like this command station with like Facebook and Instagram and Twitter and Blue Sky and YouTube, everything. And I'm just like I don't How do you How does your brain not plug and she's just very good at it. I I cannot comprehend.
It's the Watchman Ozamandas like
Yeah. bank of TVs, each showing a

different news station.
I love how there are so many different people you could have referenced and instead you referenced Azamantius.
I like it. I love it. I love Watchmen. I think it's
I love that graphic novel. What can I say?
Yes, it is an incredibly good graphic novel that comes with uh attendant warnings for being incredibly dark, but also like
Yes. necessarily dark. It's it's it's it's the it's a kind of story that needs to be dark to make its point. It's not like um what I like to call the Attack on Titan problem where there's a story that's just like needlessly gory and like over the top for the sake of itself. Um
yeah, like like midrun Game of Thrones kind of. Yeah.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Clear. It's a reference to my stream PC. That's true. Um that is that is very true. It is just a reference to my stream PC

uh which is uh named Ozamandius. Um because look upon my works you mighty and despair.
Uh no.
Um I had another question for Rob that I was going to ask to vamp to fill time and it wasn't going to be about Warhammer stuff. Although congratulations are in order to to to Rob for those who may not know. Uh in one of his many other incredibly talented hats, uh Rob also writes for Black Library and his uh his sequel to his muchbeloved novel will be coming out in the near future. Near future.
Yep. Yeah. Some sometime
sometime
it'll get announced two weeks ahead like the the Salem that that's that's how they do it.
Um yeah. Was it about the World Cup? I have been I was a massive World Cup fan this this time.
Excellent. Excellent.

Well, actually every time around I I end up watching I don't generally watch a lot of sports in general,
but there's something about the Olympics and the World Cup that I just can't I find totally irresistible. Something about like national teams.
Yeah.
Um
and and kind of like global competition I just love.
I was just rooting for Hatsune Miku's global journey, right? like just, you know, de Miku just making it all the way around the world. That was really all I was hoping for. Um
that was a fun that was a fun meme. Uh I was I was a little a little crushed by the the Norway uh defeat, but um overall I'm just happy to see a sport played well. Uh
uh and uh
I unfort I missed the uh England France game which sounds like it was the one to watch. I mean, talk about a grudge match that's been centuries in the making.
Oh, but also just so many goals scored versus the final, which I was happy with the result, but was just such a grind.

Yeah.
Um
uh we got a we got a great question from chat from uh from Thunder Heavy Arm. What was the hardest series to write for?
Oh, good question. Um I mean, none of them are easy. like [laughter] uh I I think I feel like what was the there was one that was emotionally just real rough. I mean, we we've talked about that we're doing a series on Kent State, which can't
that it was that was it was difficult. But like
the ty the first episode of the tyrant series with Leopold, I mean, we actually like decided that would be an anthology cuz I started working on Leopold in the Belgian Congo and I was like, I don't think we should do, you know, multiple episodes with this for the sake of my mental health. and the artists also was when I started doing the getting together art assets for it. I was like,

I don't know, you know, it's, you know, literally pictures of of mutilated people. Um, and uh let's see. So, that that was tough.
Um, Jewish Pirates was a hard one because some of the books that I was relying on ended up being unreliable. I just sort of like
there's a time especially when you've read a lot of history books there's a point where you start reading something and you're like
something about this doesn't smell right
y
like and you start having to like look at other sources and dive into you know the the endotes and the footnotes and you start being like I don't think that a lot of the conclusions in this book are supported.
Yeah.
Um and that was the book that I was going to build the series around. uh this this book called Jewish Pirates of the Caribbean which some parts of it are fine and some parts like the parts on sin on race are real like it's it's very much taking too much out of small historical mentions.

Yeah.
So I had to kind of dive in and expand my research pool with that one and it it turned out okay in the end. Um but uh it was that that was a difficult uh that was a difficult stretch. Um, and uh, let's see. Ooh, 30 Years War was hard until I came to the framing device that we used cuz I, it was sort of a like, man, this is really big. What did I get myself into? How am I going to talk about this
um, in any way that we can do in five, you know, 10-minute episodes? And uh then getting to the framing device of let's just talk about like the general trends of this and how it could how so many people died in such a uh a time when the technology level was just not to the level you'd see in like a World War I.
Yeah.
Cuz you can kind of look at World War I and be like, "Oh, I can understand how millions of people died in this, right?"
You know, conflict when you have these tools of industrialized war. um you

don't have that at all in the 30 years war. Um so that was that was difficult but once I hit that um that specific approach it it eased up a little bit. A lot of times like I said you know you have to play to the medium you're in.
Yeah. Absolutely.
Um and a lot of times you know if I'm having a really big problem the solution is to be like how are we framing this? Like what are we what are we doing with this? How are we leveraging the fact that this is a an animated video series rather than, you know, an essay or a book or something else?
Yeah, absolutely.
Um,
it is
the um the cards episode is a great example of that. We wrote the cards episode. Um, I did it with a great guest writer, Robbie McNe um uh who also who I met through Black Library. He's also does great black library books and um and all the information was great, but we're like hm doing these like long-term

histories of an item, we kind of have to have some kind of framing device and the idea of like this kidnapping story came about and I was like, "Oh, great. Perfect. We've, you know, inserted some of the the conflict that we need." Sorry, this is my syringe.
Yeah. Yeah.
Motion. uh we've we've injected some of the conflict that that we need to have an an ongoing narrative in this thing that has no narrative,
right? Yeah, it it was it was very good. And I also my my hat off to Matt for uh and to Mac obviously for doing the three different characters so well. And people are like, "Man, I love Henchmen." Right. I I feel like we could bring henchmen back as like a recurring bit. I feel like that could be a thing. But I am I am also happy to report that uh I will now make appear out of the ether. Yes.
Good morning.
Good. Well, good good afternoon. Good time zone, shall we say?
I say Rob, what time is it for you?

Same same time as for you.
That's right. Never mind. You're in the States right now.
Yeah, correct. We we managed to not do this while Rob is in his traditional time zone, which is exactly opposite mine. Uh which is if you're wondering why we don't do more things, not only is Rob incredibly busy, but also um the time zone thing is like not easy to wrankle. Uh because someone is losing sleep somewhere over it and doing it on the regular is not feasible because of that. Uh we we would have to do a a lot of work to make that all um feasible. So Jeff
Well, hey, what's going on today?
Uh
anything up like
Yeah, you know, just just a little a little Kickstarter launch. Just just a little one that funded in 20 minutes. Just
the thing we've been working on for the past half year. Furious,
right? The the one that
is live.
Yeah.
Hold on. Excited cat.

It's poor suffering cat. Um,
all right. I am so excited. I've been watching since you guys went live. I watched you and David talk about it. Rob, I was getting ready to hop on and my Chrome browser for some reason, which is very reliable, was like, I'm going to refresh and hang and then all my stuff stopped on the computer, which is why I'm late. But I am so excited. We put this together. People seem to like it. That makes me even more excited.
Yeah, the the people the people liking it. There's always Hold on. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna move this over here real quick to watch this this finish up. Um
Oh, yeah. Oh, Oilia.
Here you all can squabble over which one of those goes where and who finishes the puzzle.
There you go. Um
huzzah. Yeah. Um I I I did promise

everyone I would I would show off the uh the thing. Let's make this a 30 seconds.
I will I love these time lapses.
Yeah,
these are one of my favorite things.
It's 20. Um this is going to be 30 seconds long at 60 frames per second. And am I worried about rendering this while I'm live?
I should be, but I'm not because I'm full of this thing called hubris. Oh man, I'm full of a thing called coffee.
I mean, I'm also full of a thing called caffeine, but you know, it's fine.
It's funny. So, Val, I know Matt said we met her when we were at at PAX through Jasmine. Um, yeah, Jasmine, you know, that person you might know as the one running the official Dungeons and Dragons um actual play as the dungeon master because we've known her since way before she was that famous. But yeah, now heading up all the D and D stuff and

doing a banging job, may I say. Um, Val and Jasmine sit at the same table at PAX like showing off stuff and they were working together on a project and we saw I walked up and saw Val's art and I was like, "Wow, she's also really good. I'd love to work with her on something." Y
and because we've been so busy this year and Matt had so much of David's art time claimed as one does because you know we're putting out videos. I was like we're going to have to get another artist to help on this and immediately thought of her this piece Oilia. I was showing her piece art we could possibly do. I have this huge Trello of historical art from all these different centuries and time periods and regions and she's like I want that one. It's like I want Oilia. I'm like, "Really? For your first piece, you want to feel it?" And she's like, "Yep." And I was like, "Okay, let's do it." And she nailed it. Like, watching her do this piece gave me confidence. Like, initially, I was like, "Cool. We'll try

her out for a piece or two. We'll see if she's, you know, if the style fits, if it's good working with her, you know, we'll have her do more of it." And, um, looking at this piece, I just pinged Matt. I'm like, "Okay, we're everything David can't do, she's doing."
Yeah. Uh it's
and has done.
Yeah, it's been it's the seeing seeing her art in this way has been really cool. Um okay, let me get out of this and chat worry not I have come with a second piece uh that I have I have been cleared.
This is my art piece for today or my shirt for today.
Oh, it's very good. Yes. Um uh you you've seen the the the time lapse of this um on the Kickstarter page, uh, which we'll go back and check in on momentarily, uh, because I I see questions about what the heck is going on. Um,
oh yeah, we should with actually on now. I'm happy to do a refresh with you, Will.
That is that is indeed my goal. I am

merely going to uh get the mods and uh chats
or we can ask everybody's forbearance for a couple of minutes and let Rob finish talking and we could do it at the top of the hour.
We could also do that.
It's up to you. I'm I'm fine with whatever. I'm just I'm I'm over here plugging away in the background. You two take it away. Um
I don't know. I had a
I was muted for coughs. [laughter] Oh yeah,
I I'm with kids 24/7 because it is summer, so I have coughs.
Dude, for those out there considering small ones, something that Rob and I who both have small ones can tell you that you never really hear so much is the amount that they are plagrats and bring things into your house. And just when you think you fully built up your immune system as an adult, you are reexposed to the vigors of these grubby little playrats who you love. They go out and get sick and then bring

it back into your household.
Just [laughter] love
this this
beloved playground.
This year,
this year we flipped though because we we have it. It's so common that it's become a joke that um my son gets sick and my daughter gets hurt.
Um and because like she never gets sick but she always gets injured and he never gets injured but he always gets sick. And this summer we flipped it. My son got hurt and my daughter got sick. [laughter]
That was a fun flip. Yeah, I know. That was a That was a fun flip.
Um,
so real quick for chat, this this is for a brand new 2027 calendar, though. We have our cool 2026 calendar still in the store. And actually, I believe we just marked it down to half price because half the year is over. So, if you're interested, um, we can throw a, if somebody could throw a link in chat. There is a store you can go to right now and get art and a calendar like this

sent to you today. You can go hit the button [clears throat] and get it or you can pledge now for the 2027 because we have to do this early because it takes a while to make physical goods and we wanted to make sure that it is in everybody's hands before the year starts because it's nice to have a calendar before the year starts. Yep.
Okay, I'm all set up. I think I'm good.
Okay, you're all set up.
I am. I am. Oh, yeah.
Chat, if you've never been on camera while producing, allow me to assure you, it merely adds an extra chainsaw to the pile of chainsaws that you juggle. It's fun. It's exhilarating. They're still chainsaws. Um, [laughter] Rob, uh, as as as our time together draws to a close and we get ready to bring an Ally in here to talk about the card deck, um, what is the thing you're most excited about for people to see on the calendar this year? Is there is

there a date that people should look out for? Is there something What thing are you the most?
Some art. Um, a caption.
Well, I am I am so excited for the card deck. I love that card deck. I am also just
uh there are so many good pieces of art this year. Um
I think I
Well, it hasn't been it hasn't been revealed yet. So, okay. There's one that involves the the the Matter Horn, which I really really enjoy.
Oh, the one David's working on right now.
Yes. Cuz also that uh we talk about favorite series. That is one of my favorite series. I love the two episode Matterhorn series. Um
Oh, did you see the name?
I don't
Oh, I named the piece Women Ascending specifically because that was the name of the second episode you wrote about that.
Yeah. I I So I don't climb. Uh I I I

don't love I'm okay with heights, but I don't love heights when I have to physically cling on with my double rotator cuff injury. But like uh I I've been trekking quite a bit and um I love being in the mountains and I love like alpine stuff. So that that is is just an one of my favorites. Um and that bizarre period of Victorian mountaineering where people are taking bottles of champagne with them up you know the Pis Gloria and the Matterhorn and having parties at the top uh which you know is very inadvisable. Very inadvisable. Yeah, it turns out having having your blood thinned by alcohol at altitude is a really great way to die. That's just a recipe for disaster.
You're using natural fiber ropes that some of them are the ropes that are supposed to hold you and some of them are ropes that are supposed to do other stuff and it's easy to get them confused or like you know you you have regular

leather shoes that you've put some nails in or something like that, you know. Um, so I love that series. I love that piece of art. Um, the the Christmas one is very cool, too. The uh the Christmas one also working on right now
revealed yet. Specifically, as I was browsing art, I bumped into this piece and I was just looking at and I recognized the name because it's an artist we talked about in our history of cats series, the one who basically made the Victorians. He did Victorian cat memes, but then slowly um got more and more surreal and psychedelic. So, we have a picture from this guy who did Victorian cat memes that were amu uh using as an homage halfway between his period into his wild out there stuff. And um it's going to be a pretty good one. We're putting it for Christmas. [clears throat] Our Christmas ones have always been a bit odd. Excuse me. We're doing it for

the holidays. I'm saying Christmas. This is our first actual Christmas one.
We've had
Well, actually, I guess Staint Nick, never mind. Staint Nick is Christmas. All um
and so was Merry Christmas, Brea.
Yeah. Actually, never mind. They've all been Christmas, but they've also all been like holiday because we mix in all of our different holiday things.
Yeah. Yeah.
Cool. Cool. Cool. Well, Rob, uh, our our next our next guest is here, so I will let you. No, [music] no. What was that? Listen, [music] it was only a matter of time. Oh, god dang it. And now I have the glitch. Okay, cool. Great. Awesome. I have to deal with that now for the rest of the time. No. H curses. All right. I have to

do this the hard way. Rob, thank you so much for joining us today. Uh I will see you later. Uh or whenever I see you. Thank you so much for joining us. We're gonna we're gonna say bye to Rob and bring in our next guest.
See you, Rob.
All right. See you.
All right. Um that was like the wrong button to push at the wrong time. Uh, and now I have to deal with a whole different thing. Yes, that's Zoe walking on a cord. I can't even blame my roommates's cats. They are both uh elsewhere um being beyond lazy. Uh I will say um [clears throat] Okay. [sighs] All right. Everybody say hi to Ally.
Hey.
All right. Hold on a sec. I got
Hi to the people. Ally,
I got to change two things. One, I gotta let you hear Ally. And two, I gotta crop Ally. That's slightly different.
We should just leave her on without her voice for like 30 seconds just so she can glare at us.

No,
that one was on me. I muted myself.
No, you're you're quite all right. All right, Ally. Hello. Hi. Greetings, salutations. Welcome to this incredible nonsense that I have I have accidentally created. Um, you join us right as we pass $18,500 in 2 hours, which
All right. and and 294 backers is just wild, y'all.
That's great. Thanks, guys.
Yeah.
And what that especially means is people are doing the higher tiers.
Um
Yeah.
Ally, welcome. We have some people who joined us. We promised to kind of do a recap of what we're doing here. So, while Will figures out his technical issues.
Thanks.
Will you talk about this Kickstarter with me?
I would love to because it would be nice to hear it also. There we go. [laughter] Ally, I would love to walk you through what we're doing this year. And for everybody who's um joining in and hasn't seen before, this is Ally. Ally is one

of our longtime extra history artists. She has done an amazing amount of work for us, and this year specifically has worked both on the pins, which we're currently voting on, and did the entire playing card deck, all of the imagery, all of the symbols, all the back, just the whole thing. And as we scroll down the page at some point, um, we will get to that. But for those just joining us, um, as an as a history channel, we look for fun things to do in addition to the videos we put out. And if you've ever looked at our cadence, it's kind we do kind of a lot. Every three out of every four weeks, we have a history video that goes live. Every week, we have a history short that goes live. And that also doesn't count um the stuff that we do over on the extra credits channel. And this takes an entire team to do. We need writers, we need artists, we need editors, we need voice over, we need audio edit, um copy edit, you know, just

kind of all of that around. I do a lot of like the background um research and analytics around it as the studio director. We also manage a Patreon. The Patreon is where when once we picked our topics, our themes, excuse me, we might say, you know, crazy things that happened or we might say a war or famous people will go to that and our um Patreon people will give them that. They will give us suggestions. Rob, who's our lead historian, will look through that for things he thinks can make interesting episodes. We'll take three or four of those and then our patrons vote on that again and that becomes our episodes. So, we kind of have this whole team that works in concert with our Patreon to figure out what goes on YouTube. But because YouTube is a weird beast, we also like to do other fun projects. And our history calendar is this is our third one that we're doing and it's kind of become an ongoing annual tradition where

we will look through and do a lot of research on fun historical art and then go to our artists or even pull in a new one. this year. Um because we were so busy and booked, we'll be introducing Val at some point as we scroll. Actually, we're seeing Val's art on screen right now. Voodoo Val, but um we do a calendar and our calendars have a history uh happening on them every single day. So when you look at every single day on history, we'll say a little thing that happened. Some days I love the turning on your chair, Ally.
Yep. Sorry. Sorry. I I have one next to me, so I just wanted to grab it
so the So the viewers can see. So it has like little history things every day and cool art.
We can pull up years past.
Yeah.
So sorry about the shared chart. I just I was so excited. I wanted to be a part of it.
No, it's okay.
Oh, absolutely. Oh, there we go. Yeah. So we can actually will if you can

scroll down a little more like we have this example piece here and um so there we go. So you can see every single day um there's things to talk about. If there's a picture behind it, that means that we have done a video that covers something that happened on that day. And if you scan the QR code, it will take you to a web page that will list, you know, if say you're on the month of like November here, all of the happenings that we've done videos on with dates linked in November, as well as a video talking about the piece of art on the top. So, for example, um that one right there is I think episode four. um of one of our history of Japan series with um Hatawa Hat Hanzo um and right after the deaths of Odonaba when they're escaping through the countryside.
Yep.
And um but it's inspired by a piece uh called Playing the Flute by Moonlight in

which a famous cordier is walking home playing his flute and is almost ambushed by a bandit. But the bandit listens to his music and decides, "No, he's too cool." and lets him go by. Um, and so we've kind of done that with Hanzo leading him through the wilderness and being on screen. I'm paraphrasing horribly, but anyway, we pick famous historical art. We redraw it in our bean style. We have history happenings every single day and it's just a fun way to kind of learn a cool thing every day and get a little bit of extra history in us and find cool videos you might want to watch that day. I get to look at the analytics and it's kind of fun because I can see who's I can see groups using the calendar because we'll kind of see these little patterns of videos that pop up as people watch them that day like more than they normally would from our back catalog because people are scanning on the calendar day. You know, today is an episode I did is the Lucy Walker

gains first female ascent of the Matterhorn. So, we did two episodes about the the uh
about climbing the Matter Horn
and uh so that's that's today's. So, that's really cool.
Yeah, we were just talking
Oh, go ahead.
We were just talking about that with Rob.
Yeah. Um you haven't seen it yet, but um the piece David is finishing up today is referencing that episode. Um Yep. And so it's the two women who climb the matter horn and David peaks uh usually I pick the art or I'll work with the artist. This one I was just like David theme is summer. Who's an artist you love? And he was like oh this one. And we found a piece that we could connect with that episode and kind of had a summer vibe.
So he is finishing working on it right now. And I think that gets revealed at
um several tiers down the line. [laughter]
Speaking of tears down the line, we are currently h hurtling towards our $20,000 goal. We are at $18,711. Um,
I we I'll I'll do a little behind the

scenes stuff. We pre-write some of our, "Hey, we hit this tier goal message because we don't want to rush it." Like, we want to think out. We want to be able to say thank you and say this is what's coming up. I may not have written enough of them with Matt. Actually, Will, can you go back up? Let's walk down and show people what they're So, if you pledge on this, you can pledge and get a calendar. Calendars are cool. Actually, go back up a little more. You're seeing the calendar. Um, you each one has beautiful art. This is our cover, Voodoo Val, who's our new artist on this year. She and David have been doing these. This is one of hers. Um, based on the Starry Night. This is from our episode Siege of Vienna. It shows one of the winged tacers looking down over the hill. You can't see the Ottoman army army below cuz they came in from a hilltop. But that is we have actually redrawn the city to be Vienna from the time including the walls. You can see the church coming out of it. So um it is a fun reinterpretation of it.

And that big bush that everybody thinks is a tree that stands in kind of the lower left of the starry night is now a winged husier. And um
so cool. Uh that is that is also by the way if you're in chat or lurking and haven't been looking at chat there's a link floating around in chat that the mods have been posting where you can work on a puzzle version of this exact thing. Is it incredibly difficult? Yes. Am I being somewhat sadistic about this? Also yes. Is it a [laughter] thousandpiece Starry Night inspired puzzle?
Yeah. Good luck.
Oh, this sounds amazing. I love puzzles.
I I am a gracious stream overlord. I have given chat enrichment for their stream enclosure.
You are so sweet. They need it.
Yeah, you got to give them enrichment toys.
Yeah. And so you will see one of the things though is we also have what we call our deluxe and our ultimate tiers. Our regular one gets you a calendar because a lot of people want a calendar, but we also love to throw in extra

things. So, something brand new this year that's in our deluxe and above packages are a pack of extra history playing cards that Alli did all of the art for. We picked famous kings, queens, and well, we've picked famous historical figures to put on our kings, queens, and jacks. And um Ally, you just did a bangup job with these. Like, I am so looking forward to getting the physical version of this. We have the Ardan. We're in produ We're actually into manufacturing at this point.
That's awesome. Yeah, I had a lot of fun working. I It's been on my bucket list to do playing cards.
So I So it was fun to get to do them for extra history and to do characters. A lot of the characters I've done um they weren't all episodes I've done, but it was it was very cool. I really enjoyed doing playing cards.
So I I have a I have a process question that you are uniquely qualified to answer because I I was curious about this. So, um, one of the things that I don't believe we mentioned in the

history of playing cards is the mirrored face cards. Um, that was that was at one point an innovation because people realize that if you turn the card over to see so the face is right side up, your opponent knows that you have a face card in your hand. So, they started doing these these both like there is no wrong way up for a face card. Um, yeah.
Did you uh did you do that with like a mirror? Oh, like over a line or did you like sketch out what you wanted it and then on both sides and then sort of mirror it or how how can you tell us how you did that because that seems like one of the weird and interesting fun challenges of doing playing cards. So if anybody has anybody with any experience on the drawing apps on iPad or any drawing program, a lot of them, a lot of the apps, the one I use is Adobe Presco just because I have to use the Adobe suite for everything. So it makes sense. But one of their little features is along with like a ruler and a circle,

you can choose to turn on symmetry. So these playing cards you can turn off and on symmetry. This is a very basic reverse symmetry. So it's like one on top and then it reverses on. So I literally just drew the top half and then it draws the bottom half while I'm drawing the top half. You get some interesting uh like you can't do a fill on both sides. So there are some weird like uh there's some weird like process things that I had to keep in mind while I was doing it. And also like moving stuff around got difficult because like you can draw it but you can't move it together.
Oh, interesting.
So as you're like doing the sketch, the sketch kind of has to be uh good and then you do the line work because if you have to change anything after that, it's just a a pain.
Yeah. So it's it's not all the tool does it for you. It's the tool helps you lay it out and then
Yeah, it was it made things way easier. like it took no time at all to do to do

what arguably would have been very difficult and timeconuming, but it was very fun to do. Watching it happen below where you're drawing is really interesting and fun, I think. Um,
that that's got to be really cool, actually.
Yeah, it is really cool. And things like uh the cover, the back side of the playing cards, like that wasn't
the same. Like I did different types of mirrors to to accomplish that. So some of them are like a straight symmetry, some of them are reverse symmetry. The border was done with like if you do something in one corner, you can duplicate it in all three corners. So then like you can draw out from just one section and like you can you can do like a whole bunch of different things and it's very very fun. I would I will be utilizing this more often in the future because it was really fun to work with. But yeah, most people if you're familiar with drawing apps, apps specifically, I don't I'm not familiar with like Photoshop on the computer and stuff. I'm sure Photoshop does it. But um it's just

a setting and you can turn it on and it makes it so much fun.
I'm also going to I'm also going to pitch this here uh to to Jeff and Ally and to all of you uh because I could do that. Um we should put the back of the playing cards on a t-shirt
like
that would be cool.
I think that would be
that
actually You know what would be really fun? That would be cool.
I want How about a front?
Well, let's see. Well, I mean, a like I love art print t-shirts, but I now I want I want like one I want a shirt with like the little pocket picture, this playing card size here, but the the back is big with the back of the playing card deck.
Yeah, that could work, too.
Yeah, something.
So, it's a front and a back.
Yeah.
On the t-shirt.
Maybe. Maybe. Cuz because there's a there's an undisclosed character who makes an appearance as some sort of fool or joker, I am to understand, whose identity will remain
if we hit a certain goal, which at this ratio I'm sure we will. [laughter]

Yeah.
Will, do you have the ability to bring up some of the product shots to show more of the cards or is that
uh I the one I have is actually this shot. Uh which I did not realize because I didn't check the Kickstarter. I mean, I have all the cards, but
I know you do, but we're not going to pull all of them up.
That's fine. I'm just saying I have access.
Allie's showing off.
Um, so we're talking about
files.
One of the things that you get with the deluxe and above packages is this amazing deck of playing cards. you'll be able to pick them up in the our store afterwards, but if you want to get them sooner and honestly cheaper because everything we do in our Kickstarter, we basically bundle discount it down. I think the deluxe and ultimate tiers, if you'd actually went and picked up everything, it would cost you twice as much. We're just like, well, well, it's like, yeah, let's just throw it all in. Have fun.
But we're big fans of bundles. We're big fans of bundles like wherever we find a good bundle,

right? Nebula, a great bundle, right?
Yeah, the iron bundle. Pokemon fans out there.
Uh, [laughter]
I was gonna say Steam sale bundles. Um, okay. So, so, sorry, I'm getting distracted. My mom is pledging on Kickstarter right now [laughter] and trying to figure Kickstarter out.
Yeah. So, um, earlier on,
so playing cards in the bundle.
Yep. Uh, earlier on we showed off this history of playing cards episode. If you haven't seen it yet, it's live now. When we're done with the stream in 41 minutes, uh, go watch this episode. If you missed it earlier, we watched
Follow us over to Design Club. Both of which are solid options.
Well, there'll be about 15 minutes between when this stream ends and when Design Club begins, which is just enough time to watch that video. Um,
oh no, I need to send this to my family, too. Maybe they can pledge while I'm walking.
So, these pledge Oh, let me point the right way. There we go. Are mirrored. These pins, which we're voting on right now, Ally also drew. Ali's
I also did them.

Yeah,
we have history horse, Zoe, and the foreshadow.
Uh
Matt said he voted for the horse, but I think he's backing the wrong horse because right now Zoe is in the lead and a skull. I mean, we know her.
Yeah. I was like, Ally, you were you're not biased at all, right? that you you drew an extra cute Zoe with the cheeks in a skull and then like the foreshadow and horse looked cool, but Zoe is in a skull. Like I don't I don't know that there was ever really much of a contest.
No, I will say
it's a cat in a skull. Like come on.
History horse clutching the pin trying not to fall off made me laugh actually laugh out loud the first time I saw the art come through.
It's quite good. Yeah, I really I was like, how do I I want to put him on a thumbtack. A horse would be really uncomfortable on a thumbtack. So, that's that's how that happened.
Yeah. Um got a got a great question. Whose cat is Zoe? Matt's
Zoe lives with Matt. Well, although

Zoe
although I I think she would object to the term whose cat Zoe is her own cat who happens to live with and tolerate Matt the most.
Yeah, she does though.
Except
that cat's an independent. Tell me about it. The number of times she's interrupted Games for Breakfast, our weekly gaming news uh talk show, to get into Matt's arms and then put her claws in his beard. Like, that is the only thing she wants in the entire world is to climb into his arms
and then beard just beard claws. Like, I don't
Are the OG chaos gremlins of the modern age.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. just straight up. And our studio has a surprising number of people with cat. Like almost everybody who regularly goes actually everybody who regularly goes on stream has a cat that lives with them. At least one.
Yep. Mine the
disrupt our streams all the time. Gloriously.
Yeah. She's not interrupting. She's

starring. True. Uh okay. Let's
So, actually finishing the recap. Zoe Reel lives with Matt. And when Matt became the um narrator, one of the early things he did was he said, "I want Zoe in with me." And the artists were like, "Let's do this." And Rob, who was writing the episodes, agreed. Actually, all of our writers kind of bid in. And now Zoe is a fully reoccurring character that co-hosts with Matt,
who is also her own voice actress, by the way. Um
Oh, that's true. All the meows you hear are indeed Zoe getting recorded by Matt.
Uh she is quite vocal as anyone who has seen her show up on stream will attest. If you put her in front of a mic, she knows what that is, I think. Um
quite interesting. Uh okay. Um I see other questions coming in. We're going to finish the recap and then we might have time for some of those. So yeah,
uh we're doing uh a magnet to uh a magnet vote next Tuesday. So, tune in a

week from today. There'll be a vote on the magnet.
Uh, and then
speaking of which, magnets. Um, so things you get in deluxe package, calendar, playing card deck, a set of refrigerator magnets. Um, yeah, let's just skim down to what's in
Yeah, I was I was going to get there. Yeah.
Well, actually, never mind. Well, I'm taking it out of order. What we'll just breeze by was we're doing a lot of art reveals as we hit different tier uh goals.
Yep. So, you will see all of those up there. We especially once you pledged on Kickstarter, you'll get emails as we do each art reveal and other things. There'll be writeups on about the art. There'll also be writeups on our interpretation, our homage to it,
um what we're taking the inspiration from. Um these tiers right here show um there we go, historical calendar. So, you get a calendar. Uh, we already hit the tier goal where you get a Nebula store credit. Nebula is our creator

streaming service. We also have a store up there. And uh, this doesn't this works not just for our stuff, but for anything from the 200 plus Nebula creators.
Yep.
So, if you want to go buy a Jetlag hat or one of Lindsay Ellis's things or something from Legal Eagle or Tears, that's all up there. But it does indeed work for our stuff as well.
Yep. This is our secret way to give you money to go check out a store for free,
which um I think is a kind of fun thing. Um you get access to the website where you can see the daily happenings. You get to vote on everything for the regular. Um with the deluxe, this is just where we start throwing everything in. The deluxe gets you not just the calendar, but it gets you the playing cards. It gets you a $10 instead of a $5 credit. You get that cool exclusive um thumbtack that Ally designed. Um, we started with two. We're up to three fridge magnets because we hit a tier goal. And we start, you also get digital posters and wallpapers um, with it. The posters, um, the digital posters are we,

when we draw these, I drive all of our artists crazy. I give them a set of bleed lines that the art has to fit into so that we can resize it into the four most popular poster sizes for physical posters. And we give you high enough resolution art that if you want one of these at say a 27x40 or a 24x 36 to put on your wall and you want to print it out, you'll get all of the art files for that. So we try and make this as as accommodating as possible for people who want to do things. And we also re um do them into the long phone wallpapers to fit um Android and iPhone on a variety of sizes.
Yep. So, all of that comes in the deluxe. And if you go for the ultimate, it's all of that and we put the puzzle in.
Yep.
And then we have some uh some uh
Oh, yeah. two other pledges. One uh if you're just interested in a bunch of the calendars, say you're a teacher and you want to put them up around a classroom uh or share with
other department, say,
yep. Um uh then this is the way to do

it. You just get five calendars at the lowest rate we can give them to you at. Uh and you also do get access to voting, but that's all you get. Uh, and then down here,
okay, we have never done the Scholastic tier before. We threw it in because we'd have people ask about it. I have no idea if we will sell even a single Scholastic package. Like most people show up to get a calendar, but this was a way that if you wanted to get multiple, we could make it cheaper for you because we want to support our friends in universities and schools and everywhere else if this is a thing they want.
Yep. Uh, and then the last the last tier is probably the most interesting. Uh, is our $500 tier. Uh it contains uh everything from the deluxe tier and you get to submit three ideas. We'll So you give us three ideas, we'll pick one or we'll work with you to workshop one of them into an idea that works. We do retain full editorial control, but we're going to we're going to work with you to figure out something that we're both

happy with and then we'll do a short on that. Um there have been a bunch of previous ones including uh one on the first woman to be awarded the Medal of Honor. um that was suggested by someone at this tier,
the misleading history of actually will right below is a playlist of every short done because of um
yeah,
this Kickstarter or the previous two years Kickstarters.
Yeah.
But um it's basically choose a topic you'd like us to do a history short on
and then we'll go research it, you know, do um do the writing, do the voice over, do the art, the animation, the editing. Like we do the full production, we put it out on YouTube and Tik Tok. So, if you have ever had a thing, actually the one my favorite I'll have to say, I have always wanted to do Emperor Edward Nordon the first and only Emperor of the United States. Yep. Yep. Y
and we finally got to do it cuz somebody picked it on kick um on did a Kickstarter short for it and I was so happy. So, we got to cover
the only emperor the United States has ever had.

Yeah. Uh cool. And then you can also add stuff on and there will be a pledge manager afterwards. So, as long as you pledge at the $2 tier or above, you'll get access to that afterwards. Um, but this is, uh, you know, th those [clears throat] those pledge manager additions obviously don't count towards our stretch goals. So, if you'd like to help unlock things, we do encourage you to add stuff here first for stretch goal purposes.
Do what you're comfortable with. Like, this is here for people to hopefully get some fun stuff that makes them happy every day. Like our goal is to give you things that usually it's digital things that you enjoy. This is our chance to give you physical things you enjoy and hopefully bring you joy throughout the year.
Yep. Uh we uh are also closing in on that $20,000 stretch goal and we've cracked 300 backers, which is my favorite part of this is watching the number of backers go up and up. So we are now at 304 backers. Uh, so having

done our Kickstarter recap, I'm going to show you now what chat is sh is suffering through.
Oh, I want to see the puzzle. Yeah.
Yeah. Uh,
yeah, let's see it.
Okay, so this is a thousandpiece version of the siege at night.
Uh, they're they're they're doing they're doing their darnest. I don't expect them to finish this.
Um,
oh man. Challenge laid down.
Yeah. Uh, well, I with all of the tech problems I'm currently uh having. More on that later, Jeff. Um, they will impact you and me and design club uh because we got in between this and design club now, which is great. Um, uh, I wanted to give them something they could, uh, work on for a while. So, it's this, uh, and have fun with that. Um, also, we had a we had a question from chat that we've we've had other people answer throughout the day, and I wanted to throw it to both of you now that we've we finished our recap. What is your favorite Extra History series? It doesn't have to be one that you've worked on, but it can be. What's What's your favorite? And I know lots of people

assume that we have favorites.
We've worked on so many different projects. I don't even remember all of the ones that like I have routinely forgotten that I wrote episodes for extra credits. Like it just
isn't that a weird thing?
Yeah.
So crazy.
It's It's kind of wild. Um
Yeah. Yeah, I like when the history completes come down the pike and they're like I think Maja Pahit came down the pike
and I had to do some uh fixes for that, but that was the first series I ever worked on. So, it was really crazy to go back and and look at all those files again
and uh and make those changes for the for the complete. So, if that's not out by now, it's it's coming. Spoilers, I guess.
I don't know.
It will. You want to know?
Oh, keep go. Let's see something crazy. I was just looking. We've released at this point right around 750 fulllength episodes
and

from shorts. Hold on. I'm in our YouTube analytics because I keep track of all of these.
Yeah. Jeff Jeff is our numbers guy. Like
And
I I like numbers video game designer background.
And we have more than 200 shorts. So we have actually adding those together right around a thousand extra history things we've now done.
Yeah, that's just histories by the way. That's that's not including credit.
Yeah, that doesn't count extra mythology. So you haven't read extra sci-fi, extra politics, and of course extra credits, which also probably has an equal number just of itself to all of the others combined because that one's been going so long.
Yep. Yeah, that's wild.
Let's see. So, as anybody who's watched our streams can tell you, I have a hard time saying the word favorite. I can tell you favorites.
Yeah. [laughter]
Um

uh I know Alli's laughing at me, but it's true.
I No, it's it's fun. I It's like uh Yeah, you just Some words just don't come out right. Martin had was saying Beckist for a long time. So that's one of my favorite, but my my one of my teachers always said library.
I don't know if she's being serious or not, but I like saying it now.
Or uh instead of murder, I say myrtle, and that's just more fun. That one's
I actually meant it in a different way. I have a hard time picking the one thing I like the most where if it was like, "Give me four or five of them."
No, you mean like a list like, "Oh, well, who's your top Pokemon?" Oh, I can't list one Pokemon, but I have a top 15.
Right. Yeah, I thought we were talking about
I really liked our history of coffee series like think thinking through actually our commodity ones. History of coffee, history of beer. Um cats aren't a commodity but history of cats
like things where we take a specific thing and kind of go research back to its origins. So the playing card one

um
lines up real well with that.
Yeah. Well, because
I I think one of the things that Extra History like one of our strengths is and one of the strengths of this project that I really enjoy is that history is a living breathing thing that influences every day. And it's not like often times when you think about history in a in in like if you imagine it in sort of an evocative sinthetic sense, you think of like dusty tomes and research in a library and like it's very academic. very analytical. It's not fun or exciting. And maybe you get there with like paleontology, right? And like go dig up dinosaur bones and whatever, but history is all around us and all the things that we do. And it's in things like the coffee that you drink in the morning or the beer that you drink at night or the playing cards that you use to play with your friends or whatever. Um, and that's one of my favorite things is that we get to contextualize things

using history to show how uh it's all still very hecking relevant.
Yeah, actually fun to see everything connected. Yeah,
those are two of my other favorites.
Yeah. Which two?
Oh, I just threw on screen money and tulips.
Oh, I love the tulips episodes.
Actually,
I became obsessed with tulips after doing that series.
Ali, you drew that one, right? I did. Yeah, that was one of my favorites. I have like I do have a couple of favorites that I've done. Um, John Brown was a favorite of mine. I really enjoyed John Brown. A lot of it like weirdly is more of an artistic thing. I feel like I nailed the color palette. I know that's a weird thing to say, but like I also really enjoyed doing the series and the tulips one.
I got really obsessed with that one. Uh, it's a beautiful great Yeah, I really enjoyed drawing that episode.
And then, uh, the last one, um,
for anybody that knows me, uh, is the,

uh, Vlad the Impaler episodes.
Oh, yeah.
I had a lot of fun with those.
That was very enjoyable for me. Another color palette one I was very proud of.
Yeah.
Uh, not for people with red green color blindness. I did learn that later. Um, they were not good episodes for those people, and I apologize for that. I'm working on that and [laughter] I I try to keep that in mind. But I really enjoyed working on those episodes as well.
Also,
those are fun.
Have you se Have you seen, by the way, the art that Val did this year with the tulip series um for the painting?
Did Yeah, it was beautiful. I mean, all of her stuff just came out so good. But the tulips were just chef's kiss.
Yeah. You you just mentioned that one and like we haven't revealed that one yet, but um it's um it's a fun we have so much good stuff to draw on. Yeah, actually it was fun bringing her in because she got to look at all your guys um artwork like because I was sending her reference for it
and just the amount of good things like

as a trained artist like trained professional artist doing things. She got to come in and look at this and
she was like when I showed her um your horses for Siege of Vienna, she's like who did this? The motion lines on the horses are amazing.
[laughter]
like I was showing her some of
and it's true, but like it's it's fun getting to bring in an artist who hasn't worked with you guys and show them your art
or the episodes and because that's reference that she then uses when she's building in the characters that go into our, you know, re-imagined classical artwork.
Yeah. No, I I love that. I think like um because the art style is simple, you know, um I think like I take for granted some of the stuff I do with it and it's nice to hear an outside person be like I really thought that this was really cool because not that I like I don't I'm not doing high art or anything but like I get to put my own kind of like oomph into it and uh and do

some really engaging pieces. is like one of the series I'm working on right now. There's a couple of scenes where it's like, you know, I wanted to feel something and that's hard to do with it being so simple. But at the same time, when you can succeed, I think it's successful. And it's cool to hear a colleague be like, "Yeah, I really like I really connected and can see like
and it's cool." Any anybody who's watching the stream, uh we love I love reading art related comments. Just saying. Um, [laughter]
so I I did have two things. One, Ally, we have said that we're doing a series on the Kent State Massacre.
Oh, you have said that. Okay.
Yeah. So, so, so that's that's Greenlight.
That's what I was talking about because I just got to like the part
and uh so I I had to It's a tough series, but
um
yeah,
and the other one real quick is that Matt is out here spoiling stuff. Uh, speaking of Dino Bones, we have an episode coming up on the Bone Wars.

Oh, yeah.
That one is also incredible.
Bone Wars. If if
the opening is just like my friend worked on it and she did such a great job. Y'all are going to be blown away.
It's funny.
When we were figuring out the thumbnail for that, I was chatting with Madden Cat. I'm like, we're just we're going with the one where, you know, they're using dynamite to blow up dinosaur bones, right? And I was [laughter] just like, "Yep, that's cuz we drew a couple other ones, but like one of them like for the thumbnails like there's somebody like a dino and somebody running up and like what are you doing?"
Yeah.
But because Yes. these waring paleontologists who if they couldn't make the discovery would try and destroy the others findings with things like dynamite. Like history is wild.
Yeah. Absolutely. like and it's it's not Yeah, it's or um the uh the the Folic ideas video

on um footprints in sand about uh fake dinosaur footprints and how they were used how like the the actual records of real dinosaur footprints were obscured because people kept trying to make fake dinosaur footprints to sell the tourists. Like stuff like that is just [laughter] man pale. It feels like it feels more and more like Indiana Jones is less and less an exaggeration and more and more just a story about one plausible archaeologist, right? [laughter]
It's incredibly plausible. Like considering how many episodes involve artifacts, what what we did one about
I did a short about a yeti finger.
Oh yeah. Smuggling the yeti finger in the in the suitcase of lingerie.
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like You can't make this stuff up. Like you'd think you'd be like, "Somebody made this up." Nope.
No,
no, not at [laughter] all. Specifically in the suitcase of lingerie because they were convinced that because of the time

period, customs would not sort through the women's lingerie.
Yeah. They would not
so they could smuggle the yeti finger inside of that.
Yep. [laughter]
Yep. There are. Yes. Absolutely. 100%.
Yeah. Um,
if anything, you could ramp up Indiana Jones a little bit and it would still not be quite as close to believable.
Yeah.
Or or like
I feel like they did that in the later movies. I mean, once aliens started coming in, I was a little less
once they nuked the fridge. You mean?
Yeah. [snorts]
Oh, yeah. I mean,
I mean, will on the other hand, they called down the wrath of God in the first one? Like, what does a nuke compare to the wrath of God?
Right. Okay. But see, like one of those involves the Ark of the Covenant and the other one involves the somehow mystical properties of a 1940s American standard inhome refrigerator. Right? So like one of those back then that's what I'm saying.
One of those is a famous historical religious object of like incredibly great significance. Then the other one

is a fridge. Like [laughter]
yeah, this is my food cold. It's way more real and relevant
than an arc of the covenant.
Yeah.
I guess I'm just thinking that when you start a series where the climax
absent chat absent chat for fridge [laughter]
I guess maybe when you start a series where the one of the penultimate things in the conclusion is the wrath of God comes down. You're as a writer where you escalate from there afterwards for sequels has got to get a little crazy.
Yeah. No, that's that's fair. that that's it's valid. Um, you know, it is it is it is kind of difficult. Uh,
I mean, you go right to chilled monkey brains and pulling people's beating hearts out of their bodies.
Yeah. Right. That's all very true. Um,
I can't believe he didn't try to put it back. You know,
I want to see him where he tried to put it back.
Just it can't.
Yeah.
Team Fortress 2 style where he's like, "Get it back in.

Put it back in. Sorry." And then he just lowers. Anyway,
Yep. Yep. Yep. Anyway, this is what happens sometimes when you put the right combination of us on uh is that we become very silly very quickly. Uh as you will uh discover.
So, what you're watching, if you're joining in now, is kind of the w we're going to be wrapping this up in about another 20 minutes. We are doing a live stream on three channels, I believe, for the first time ever.
Yeah. And you're having tech problems on three channels for history.
Woohoo. And our extra credits channels are all streaming the exact same thing right now, which is the launch of our 2027 kick our 2026 campaign for our 2027 history calendar, the history happens every day calendar. Um there are links in chat for it. Um it will be going on for 31 days. Today is day number one and

we are crowdsourcing our ability to make a calendar for next year with beautifully handdone art from a a couple of artists as well as refrigerator magnets with some of the art. Custom pins to hold up your calendar. A lot of research for daily historical happenings that happened every day. Extra research to figure out which of those link to videos we've done in the past so that we can link you to them.
Oh no, I'm a telegram. Is that business?
You are you are you are becoming uh
Was that
Yeah, you Yeah, your connection stinks again. Unfortunately, Ally and I are like
Okay, so this is me doing that part.
Yeah. Uh um Ally and I are adjacent states and Jeff is very nonadjacent. Though I'm curious why he's having connection problems and Rob didn't. So, or David didn't. Although I suppose the transatlantic cable is easier.
Who knows?
Am I back or shall I do that refresh

thing?
Um, if you could do that refresh thing, it would probably help as we wrap up.
Um, I can answer some some questions while we do this.
Uh, Corey asks, "Is the history in Everyday different from last year?" Yes, because believe it or not, more than one thing happens every day.
What?
Well, wild. But yes, we increasingly hard to find them. Yes, absolutely. Um, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, okay, great. Excellent. Um, there is now a discussion about whether The Temple of Doom or Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is a better Indiana Jones movie. I will leave that to braver folks than I to to litigate. Um,
Will, I'm so sorry. Where's the refresh thing again?
Right click on your screen, show stat, right click on your face, show stats, uh top of it, send key frame. Or you can just refresh the page, which might be

I heard Mentos was the refresh maker.
Thank you, Ally. Thank you ever so much for that wonderful gem. I'm just [laughter] gonna go Ally knows I'm just giving her a hard time. Um, nope. Nope. Jeff is still having connection problems. Hooray. Glorious. Because you know, Chad, have you ever had this like a a a thing where you only get one shot at it? That is the time when things completely beyond your control, like Jeff's connection issues will pop up every time. Uh, all of the time. Uh unfortunately, internet happens every day. It does. It continues to internet. Uh unfortunately, the internet is a series of tubes that is also largely out of our control. Uh

does Ally have a space-time riff attached to her chair? Yes, Allie is using a chair mat green screen. So, every time she turns her chair, uh we I I it
you get glimpses.
Yeah, you get glimpses of the the the space behind her chair. Um, unfortunately,
uh, yes, Jeff,
don't worry. The rift is not dangerous yet.
Is it Is it a crack in the wall?
Uh, yeah.
Yeah. Okay, great.
I There's more, but
that was good. Okay, I am going to say that what we're going to do because Jeff is having technical problems and I need to go sort those out and we need to begin our design club in a little under half an hour, uh, is we're going to start the process of wrapping up this stream. So, we'll go over where we're at with the Kickstarter and what's coming up next, and then we'll
send everyone on their way, uh, and we

will go from there. Um, so
sounds good.
Uh, let's bring that Kickstarter up. By the way, this puzzle will remain up. uh through design club. So if you want to hang out and work on the puzzle in the background while we're doing design club later, it will remain up. I did make it sadistically difficult, so it will take all afternoon. You're welcome.
Uh here's where we're at. We are at $19,700.
So close.
$11. We are almost at that $20,000.
So close.
Yep. Uh it's incredibly close. Uh I'm I I imagine it's entirely possible that by the time I go through uh what's what's happening uh we'll will be there. So this is our 2027 historical uh events calendar. History happens every day. So far we've unlocked a variety of stretch goals, but uh the core the core idea remains the same. Every day in history there's a different historical fact. Every month is a different piece of art done in our style inspired by a

different wonderful piece of art. uh and uh character or characters from a series or series that we have done. Um I just said series or series, but like imagine that one of them had an apostrophe, right? Like you know, um and it could be yours. Uh all of the early birds, I believe, are gone now. So $25 gets you the 2027 calendar. for $45 gets you the calendar and a whole bunch of really nifty add-ons. Um, including but not limited to uh a deck of playing cards, uh, the thumbtack that uh, the Kickstarter is voting on, some fridge magnets, and a whole bunch of digital goodies and a store credit for Nebula and a bunch of stretch goals that we're still working on. So, tune back in. That's $45. $65.
So much stuff for $45.
I know. Oh, and $65 is everything I just said and a puzzle. It's actually not this many pieces, but it is the picture that chat is working on right now. Oh, no. Sorry. That worked on earlier. It's

Oilia from earlier
and it's fewer pieces. It's not a thousand pieces. They wouldn't let me suggest that we do a thousand piece puzzle because no one wants to do that apparently. Uh so yeah. Um there also tiers for teachers at the Scholastic tier and the um uh make your own history. uh tier in which you get to suggest uh a historical event uh to make a short and only six of those remain. So uh we are very excited. We're this will be running for uh the next month. So please tune in. Uh and again if you don't have the funds to back right now, you can back at the $2 tier and get in on all of the votes and put it all in at the pledge manager later. Or if you don't even want to do that, spreading the word about this thing that we're doing will really help. Um, tell tell your friends, tell your teachers, tell your um, tell you know your parents, tell everyone about this really cool project. Um, so yeah, uh, if you have questions, uh, I'm sure

folks on the Kickstarter as well as, uh, in our chats throughout the month, we'll be able to answer them. Uh, so if you have any of those, um, please don't hesitate to ask. Uh thank you so much to Ally and to Jeff for joining us even though we are having technical problems. Thanks to all of you chat for dealing with our technical problems today. They have been uh myriad and ridiculous. So um we're going to uh we're going to sign off here on uh on our YouTube channels. Don't worry, it'll automatically redirect you to our upcoming uh thing which will be taking place in 25 minutes. Uh it'll be a design club on crunchy historical games. Jeff and I are going to get into why are historical games so crunchy? Uh who who can say? Um so until then everybody uh please take care of yourselves. Please take care of each other. Enjoy the Kickstarter campaign and we'll see you all next time. Everybody wave. Bye
bye. Oh, where's that?

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